would u say yes or no to this question "do u know this guy?"

you saw this guy at least a few times but never had any conversations w/ him because he was forwarded and had approached u on several occasions and annoyed you by his inquisitions and u simply ignored him every time...

i would like to know how many of you would say yes to the question "do u know this guy?"...

Originally posted by Dragonfly
Ok... granted I can be a bit dense at times. ~grins~ But are you asking if we know someone like this guy... or if based on the limited amount of contact with him that you discribed ... would we feel as if we know what kind of person he is. I guess I am just not really clear on what you are asking.

dragonfly, don't read into it...just take it at the surface value...if that were the scenario and then u were asked the question, do u know him? what would your answer be?...

Originally posted by MrsHedgeHog
Same here. I would say, "I know of him but I don't really know him"

thx MrsHedgeHog...when i was asked this question, i said no b/c i was thinking in terms of the latter part of your reply...

the reason why i asked this was b/c my friend scott b said that i misled him by saying no...what i was hearing was that he thought i lied to him...he even asked me to think about the question whether i was completely honest .....the fact of the matter is I NEVER SAID ONE LIE TO HIM EVER.......this was the second time he accused me of lying to him ....in his mind i had lied...in my mind i did not...that's why i wanted to see how many of u would answer the way i did...whether i was the only one that did not know the definition of "know" according to him...

thank u very much for all your responses, dragonfly, nessa and mrshedgehog...i really appreciate it...by the way, dragonfly,i really like your new avatar...reminds me of a jeanne :)...

ng

Originally posted by Nessa
Dragonfly,

I know exactly what you mean. and I doubt Nightengale will think we are playing fairly but it's not a fair question because LIFE IS NOT BLACK AND WHITE

nessa, i think i know what u mean here....i never realized how complicated this question really is until i posted here...

thx for your thoughts, nessa,

ng

Originally posted by Dragonfly
My answer would be I need more info on which to base my answer. Sorry ... I don't play well with others sometimes. ~grins~

Wow ... me being a smart a$$ for my 400th post. It was just to good to resist.


dragonfly, i was too uncomfortable in this annoying guy's presence and gave him a simple no and trying to get the heck out of his presence...else i'd say, no but i had seen him a few times and was annoyed by his inquisition..no i didn't think that u were being a smart A there...

thx 4 your thoughts, dragonfly,

ng

Originally posted by Nessa
seems to me that scott B might have some prior trust issues if he accussed you of lying of something as trivial as CARNAL knowledge vs knowing OF someone.....

to be honest however if a guy had hit on me and i ignored him but I knew who he was and someone asked me if I know him, I would NEVER have said NO....

I know who he is, he's hit on me, I rebuffed him. that would have been more along the lines of my answer.

nessa, at this point, it sounded to me that i don't know the definition of "know" according to both u and scott b...i didn't even know that annoying guy's name....i just always walked away when he tried to approach me or strike up a conversation with me....in my mind, i don't know him...even now, i would still say that i do not know him...i even told scott b again about it...i guess i'd better go look up in the dictionary the definition of what know is...

ng

Originally posted by Dragonfly
~grins at Nessa~ Well I never was one for answering a question unless I knew what I was answering to ~winks~ That has served to keep me out of at least some trouble over the years.

Besides ... this looks suspiciously like a question that is designed to measure some sort of psychology. So as is normally the case .... it would perhaps just be easier to check the box labled abnormal next to my name and move on. Nothing to see here folks.... and ignore that little man behind the curtain. ~roflmao~

dragonfly, i didn't mean for this question to be some sort of a tricky question...if i weren't as bothered by that annoying guy, i'd probably given more time to answer that question...scott b put in me a position where i had to give an answer on the spot...he dragged me to that annoying guy's presence and asked me in front of him whether i know him...what would u do if u were me being confronted like that by a friend?

ng

Originally posted by Nessa
NG,

you don't even know his name.... oh well that makes it different to me... so how did you know that is who scott b was talking about? (inquiring minds want to know).

if bri had said 'do you know steve?' and steve was annoying guy I would say i don't know anyone named steve.

but if he pointed to him and said do you know 'that guy" I would have said I don't know his name but he hits on me all the time it's so annoying.....

nessa, i did tell scott b that afterwards...but a lot after, he accused me of misleading him by telling him no...please read my reply to dragonfly right above your most recent reply...and tell me what u think...thx, nessa

ng

Oh how simple questions can have such deep complicated meanings! LOL. Really, I probably would have said "know of, or know personally? Define your question better..." But, that's just me. :D

Miscommunications abound!

~phosphorescent

Originally posted by fos4snt
Oh how simple questions can have such deep complicated meanings! LOL. Really, I probably would have said "know of, or know personally? Define your question better..." But, that's just me. :D

Miscommunications abound!

~phosphorescent


hey g/f, good to hear from ya...i was wondering how u were ...yes i probably would have said the same if i weren't being confronted like that in front of this annoying guy the way scott b dragged me to the position...do u seey what i'm talking about?

ng

Personally, I think the best answer might have been, "I know him to see him, but I wish I didn't even know him that much." ;)

Originally posted by ScarletHawke
Personally, I think the best answer might have been, "I know him to see him, but I wish I didn't even know him that much." ;)

i probably would have given him a more thorough answer if i weren't dragged in front of the annoying guy and forced to answer the question like that...do u c what i'm talking about? i had afterwards explained to him in detail like nessa said that she would have...please read my above replies to other's replies to get a better picture...thx 4 your thoughts and reply...

ng

I would say I know who he is. If I had ever been introduced to him, then I would say that I know him.

Originally posted by Patricia
I would say I know who he is. If I had ever been introduced to him, then I would say that I know him.

patricia, i didn't even know his name...i was dragged in front of this very annoying guy i was trying to avoid to answer that question...i was trying to get the heck out of there...but afterwards i told them the whole thing about that annoying guy's approach to me...still a lot after, he accused me of lying to him...or misleading him as he put it...

thx 4 your input, patricia

ng

I agree wholeheartedly! LOL! :D

~phosphorescent

Well, not sure if I read this right...

However, I think...If James has asked me this question (as I understand it)....

I would have said something like that..."OMG, is that the annoying guy who is always being too forward with me? No, I don't even know him! Why do you ask?".

Originally posted by nightingale
you saw this guy at least a few times but never had any conversations w/ him because he was forwarded and had approached u on several occasions and annoyed you by his inquisitions and u simply ignored him every time...

i would like to know how many of you would say yes to the question "do u know this guy?"...

As the question is so open ended, my first response would have been "In what way?". But if a positive answer is more applicable...... "Not personally."

Originally posted by Trish
Sounds to me like they're BOTH annoying! What kind of friend "drags" you in front of someone and makes you say whether or not you "know" them. Is this "knowing" in the "biblical" sense, knowing personally, or just "knowing of"? There are different types of "knowing". Sorry, but Scott B sounds like a jerk to even put you on the spot like that in front of the guy. If I were you, I'd be "knowing" alot less of him, too!

Do you all see why I LOVE Trish?

I completely agree!

Trish is my heroine!:p

Your friend is the one with the problem, and he's trying to manipulate things to make it look like you're the one with the problem. In fact, there was no problem until your friend hauled you over to the annoying guy and proceeded to blow this into a huge drama.

I'd tell him that he was way out of line, and when he's ready to apologize, you'll be ready to listen. Then just leave him stew in his own juices and don't worry about it a second longer. :cool:

I am with Trish. I would be worrying a lot less about whether "I" was "wrong" or not, and be re-thinking having a relationship with this "jewel".

We women so often take on others criticism, and never even look at if the other person was at fault for anything.

gosh,

thank u all for your replies...

jerry, i really appreciated you reading thru everything...& for your reply...

jo & saltwaterblue, thank u both for your replies...

trish, scarlethawk, ravenmagdelene & 1love & nessa & fossy & yellowrose{edit, didn't mean to leave u out there the first time}, u all are right on just as well...and thank u all for taking the time and responded to my thread...

i'm very grateful for a dear real life friend who knows me so well that she spent less than 20 minutes listening to my story and diagnosed the problem right on...

i'm not a game playing person and often do not know it when others are playing games with me until after the fact...

something was miscommunicated during my semi-date w/ scott b that he lost interest in me and decided to cut me loose...i think that that was what he was trying to do w/ all his blatantness & line-crossing...the man had poor boundaries and didn't know to simply be assertive about his loss of interest but to hurt me as much as he could to cut me loose that way instead....

my friend told me that he was a jerk and to stay away...at first i was in total shock by her response [b/c he made himself sounded as if he were trying to help me instead of hurting me and i believed him] after being shocked by his blatantness about everything...finally after 45 minutes, suddenly it came to me that my friend was totally right on...

i think that the numbness i felt was God's spirit protecting me..so when scott b gave some harsh didactic lecture about something deeply personal to me, i literally felt very little of his hurtful effect...

i'm just disappointed to come to the realization that the man had done so willfully and do feel sorry for the fact that he couldn't be assertive about his loss of interest and had to be that way w/ me instead...what a lesson....thank u all for your replies...u all are the very best people...i'm so grateful for each and everyone of u...

luv,
ng

Originally posted by Nessa
seems to me that scott B might have some prior trust issues .

yes i think he does...

Originally posted by Trish
Sounds to me like they're BOTH annoying! What kind of friend "drags" you in front of someone and makes you say whether or not you "know" them.

yes u r right...he wasn't trying to be a friend as i realized afterwards...

Originally posted by Nessa
I agree with trish. Scott B sounds like he's into playing games and childishness.

I think for someone to DRAG you in front of someone and INTEROGATGE you as to whether or not you know him means he has a hidden GAME agenda.

yes he was...boo hoo hoo...he was trying to cut me loose...and little did i know that he did that ...gosh...:(

Originally posted by Raven Magdalene
Yes, enough to know as to not want to know him. :)

yes...that's how i feel now :(

Originally posted by Jo-Admin
Well, not sure if I read this right...

However, I think...If James has asked me this question (as I understand it)....

I would have said something like that..."OMG, is that the annoying guy who is always being too forward with me? No, I don't even know him! Why do you ask?".

jo, i think that would have been a great reply if i weren't as shocked by his blatant didactic conversational style...

Originally posted by SaltwaterBlues
As the question is so open ended, my first response would have been "In what way?". But if a positive answer is more applicable...... "Not personally."


yes saltwaterblues, i'd probably given him more of a dialog if i weren't dragged in front of the very person i felt VERY uncomfortable w/...

Originally posted by 1love
Do you all see why I LOVE Trish?

I completely agree!

Trish is my heroine!:p

yes trish is pretty smart...and so are the rest of u wonderful ageless friends who replied to my post...it seemed like i were the only one that was blinded to all this...

Originally posted by ScarletHawke
Your friend is the one with the problem, and he's trying to manipulate things to make it look like you're the one with the problem. In fact, there was no problem until your friend hauled you over to the annoying guy and proceeded to blow this into a huge drama.

I'd tell him that he was way out of line, and when he's ready to apologize, you'll be ready to listen. Then just leave him stew in his own juices and don't worry about it a second longer. :cool:

gosh, u guys are so smart and totally right on...he was being manipulative...my friend thought that he was not a very good person...i now see what she was talking about...he was not being a friend at all...

Originally posted by yellowrose
I am with Trish. I would be worrying a lot less about whether "I" was "wrong" or not, and be re-thinking having a relationship with this "jewel".

We women so often take on others criticism, and never even look at if the other person was at fault for anything.

gosh, u r so right on just as well...wow, so many wise wonderful people here in ageless...no i will not rethink about having a relationship w/ him...after talking to my friend, i will just let him go...this guy got a big problem and that i will not try to help him fix it...he's got a brain and he can figure it all out...i will not let his problem become mine...so i will let him go...

Originally posted by Trish
NG....you seem like such a sweet, loving, trusting person. Don't ever let anyone manipulate you for their own purposes. When someone attempts to make us feel wrong or foolish, it's usually because they're the one with the problem.

Hugs!

trish, thank u very much for your words of wisdom & your positive feedback on my characters...yes i'm trusting and loving and sweet...i think that those very qualities might have exacerbated scott b's obnoxiousness b/c he must have thought that i was head over heels for him so that he had to raise his level of obnoxiousness to a higher level for me to realize that he wasn't interested in me...the funny thing is that i was nice to him only b/c that's the way i relate...had nothing to do w/ anything else...i probably would not ever have felt physically or emotionally attracted to him at one point if it weren't for that massage session we had...

i think that, like my dear friend said, b/c of my upbringing, it is very automatic for me to accept that sort of mistreatment from people and don't realize it till after the fact...i think that u gave me a pretty good indicator here for future reference...we all get wiser everyday don't we? :)

hugs & cheers,
ng

Originally posted by nightingale
nessa, at this point, it sounded to me that i don't know the definition of "know" according to both u and scott b...i didn't even know that annoying guy's name....i just always walked away when he tried to approach me or strike up a conversation with me....in my mind, i don't know him...even now, i would still say that i do not know him...i even told scott b again about it...i guess i'd better go look up in the dictionary the definition of what know is...

ng I think I would have said " well, he has TRIED to get to know me several times but I ignored him so I would say I know who he is, but no I dont know him and dont want to. Why do you ask?
Meanwhile, I came in at the end here LOL and am wondering if this obnoxious guy told Scott he had been with you sexually or something out of jealousy and Scott didnt believe it and wanted to prove he was a liar by having you come face to face with him and call his bluff. Well its just a thought because that happened to me once in high school. Some jerk I never talked to who was constantly pestering me, told a guy I was dating that I was a tramp and he had been with me. BIG BIG LIE I hadnt BEEN with anyone sexually at the time. One day in the hall at school my boyfirend pulled this guy over to us and said to me " Did you ever have sex with this guy?" I said " you have to be kidding" and my boyfriend said THANK YOU and told the guy " Now, get lost" At my age now I would think that was rediculous, but then again when your young and inexperienced sometimes you just dont have maturity and you do dumb things :rolleyes:

charo,

i would have given him more of a dialog if i weren't dragged in front of that annoying guy and was put on spot to answer that question...

scott b had other agenda when he did that...i posted all about his other agenda in my replies to other posters...

i think u were right in the first place about neither one of the scotts is right for me...

thx for your reply, charo..

cheers,
ng

Originally posted by Raven Magdalene
Here, Here...and should that happen, get the **** away from them or them from U! ;)

We need emotional nourishment and not emotional starvation! And if you are feeling thus, such as you indicated...RUN and feed on a better batch of stew and fill that 'solar plexus' with JOY! ;)

you're so right about staying away from them...another guy friend of mine was coming to my rescue, knew that scott b was playing games w/ me long before i ever did...i realized in retrospect, he knew that scott b had other agenda than helping me...sometimes i feel somewhat sad about being such a slave to the repercussions of childhood abuses...if i weren't raised w/ that, i'd not put up so much w/ him and not walked away but listened to his didactic confrontation w/ me...what he did was hurtful and i pity the man for his inability to be assertive in a positive way...my sweet and loving nature was mistakened by him as some sort of signs of interest in him...

what a lesson!!!!!! i guess we all get wiser everyday, don't we?! :)

Originally posted by Raven Magdalene
Honey, I am quite familiar with abuses. Hard stuff to deal with, but if you are willing to grow...you will. ;)

oh boy, are we all too familiar w/ that unfortunately...yes, hard to deal w/...u can say that again...and yes i do believe that i can overcome and that i will...

thanks again for your reply and caring,

hugs,
ng

Just because someone bugged me at a club and told me his name doesn't mean that I KNOW him.

Originally posted by Witchy
Just because someone bugged me at a club and told me his name doesn't mean that I KNOW him.

thank u witchy...that was exactly how i felt...u r one of the majority here...

thank u very much for taking the time to reply and vote here :)

Originally posted by MrsHedgeHog
I can't remember... which one of the Scotts is Scott B? Pretty boy or old friend? I'm just being nosey. No need for me to add anything; everyone else has said it so eloquently already!

the pretty boy which i had on a few occasions finding no attraction to him..not physical or emotional...

I would have said yes, because "know" is very often used as "know of" or "know who I'm talking about?" in today's language. If someone asked me, "Do you know that Democrat who's running for president?" I would say, 'Yes." even though I don't know him personally, I know what they mean.

So, in your scenario, I most likely would have said, "Yeah, what about him?"

I agree with everyone though, you're better off without him - he sounds like a jerk!

Originally posted by Kristin
I would have said yes, because "know" is very often used as "know of" or "know who I'm talking about?" in today's language. If someone asked me, "Do you know that Democrat who's running for president?" I would say, 'Yes." even though I don't know him personally, I know what they mean.

So, in your scenario, I most likely would have said, "Yeah, what about him?"

I agree with everyone though, you're better off without him - he sounds like a jerk!

i c, kristen...i didn't know that was the way he was using it...i'm glad u read the whole thread..spare me some typing here...that annoying guy gave me the creeps and i felt very uncomfortable in front of him, let alone being dragged like that and be confronted like that...yes he's a jerk and i wrote him a two page letter and let him know exactly what he did and how that made me feel....one of my friends thinks that he would be ticked off when he reads the letter...i think that he deserved to know what he did and how it made people feel...his shocking behavior made me have my curse twice this month...my body and mind was simply in so much shock and reacted to it...he wasn't tryinng to be a friend...he was simply acting like a jerk in his own defense out of inability to be assertive ...i never made any moves on him...i think the problem resides in him...i believe he had mistakened my loving, sweet, trusting, touchy & gentle nature as some sort of signs of me being head over heels for him.....so when he lost interest in me, he felt the need to distance me w/ his obnoxious, overbearing, condescending, way out of line behavior under the self-proclaimed unselfish, didactic facade...i felt so played/fooled...

my friend was right...b/c i was so used to be mistreated growing up, and being the trusting person i normally am, it would be natural for me to accept that sort of behavior from him and took him at his words...

well, i suppose that we all live and learn...

thank u for your reply, kristen and for taking the time to read thru everything...

ng

Originally posted by Amina315
I would say..."screw you mind your own business"


Just kidding...but I hate that he is trying to put you on a guilt trip, that's very unfair...as was said earlier, you are so kind and trusting, it's not right for people to use that to try and manipulate a situation...

I don't know exactly how I would answer that question...I would probably say something like "not really, but he has tried to hit on me a few times"

i'd probably say something like that if i weren't so uncomfortable in that annoying guy's presence and being confronted like that...i did explain it to him afterwards...

the next day i went over to his place to clarify some thing to him...somewhere in our conversation, he accused me of misleading him by saying NO even after i had explained it to him about my unpleasant encounters w/ that annoying guy after i was out of that annoying guy's presence...

i felt so played after realizing that he did a number on me & was way too manipulative for me...gosh, really upsetting to say the least...

thx for your support, anima...

Please! Stay away from that LOSER! I would forget that he even lives on this planet. No more letters, no going to his house, no nothing unless you like drama and put-downs.

You do not deserve this so don't even give him the time of day. At least that is what I would do.

Originally posted by yellowrose
Please! Stay away from that LOSER! I would forget that he even lives on this planet. No more letters, no going to his house, no nothing unless you like drama and put-downs.

You do not deserve this so don't even give him the time of day. At least that is what I would do.

*****yes that's what i'm planning on doing, i.e. avoiding him like plaque...and the thought did cross my mind about wishing that i never knew him...i finally came to a peaceful conclusion that let's just be each other's past...and move on...and i did come to the conclusion that he doesn't deserve any more of my time...if he were ever going to give me any more drama, i will blow up at his face...but from now on, i'd avoid him like a plaque......thx 4 your thoughts, yellowrose :)

... which is what you did. Implying otherwise simply opens the door to further conversation, which you did not want. I would now place scott B into that category, for his existence is hardly worth acknowledging, given how he treated you, NG.

You are a lady, and you deserve to be treated like one, and in my oppinion, a lady should always be treated respectfully and defferentially. What he did was neither, and you deserve better.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

thank u very much for replying to my inquiry and i really appreciated your support there...u r totally right on about everything u said...the man had not fully embraced the Gospel to treat me or any other lady he has no interest in, with respect and dignity...

today he tried to approach me again after some misconception has been dispelled via my letter to him, as phosy predicted that he would after that ...boy oh boy...sure gave me something to think about...i don't know if i want to give him another chance

he has to change a lot in order to be acceptable to me...the man is almost half a century old...if he had been this way for so long, why would he ever change just for me IF he is capable of changing?...his disrespectful acts has propelled me to think that i wished that i never knew him...so i don't know if i should give him another chance ....i thought about writing him another letter and let him know the list of qualities a man should have in order for me to date him...i don't know if i should do this...perhaps i should start another poll, what does everyone think?

doesn't sound as if he is worth the trouble to me.

i've read all of your posts on the situation, and if i recall correctly, you aren't even that attracted to him. so why waste your time.

i read a little bit on yellowrose's ex...i think that scott b has the potential to turn out just like him...i don't think i want to bother for that reason...the man is about half a century old, he should know better to solve his own problem...he's really beyond me sadly...i think so far u and other two girls are right about not writing to him...

it's amazing that we always can see the solution of our problems in other ppl's situation similar to ours better...

thank u very much for taking the time to read my thread and respond...really appreciate your input...

Originally posted by nightingale
he has to change a lot in order to be acceptable to me...the man is almost half a century old...if he had been this way for so long, why would he ever change just for me IF he is capable of changing?...his disrespectful acts has propelled me to think that i wished that i never knew him...so i don't know if i should give him another chance ....i thought about writing him another letter and let him know the list of qualities a man should have in order for me to date him...i don't know if i should do this...perhaps i should start another poll, what does everyone think?

Never, ever date someone with the idea of them changing. It isn't that they can't, but chances are that they won't, especially if he's got a nice lady like yourself around, he may figure that he doesn't need to.

Point is that many people stick with abusive and/or disrespectful people with the idea in mind that that person will change. The only thing that usually changes is the level of dignity that you have, and as time goes by with a louse like this clown apparently is, your dignity can only diminish.

He'll take every disagreement you'll ever have and turn it around on you, regardless of who is at fault, and that sort of thing robs another of their dignity just by its very nature.

You seem like a very decent lady, NG, and I have always liked your posts. You deserve far, far better than to get yourself stuck with a fifty year old man who wants to act like a thirteen year old whenever conflict resolution needs to be performed.

If I seem presumptuous or hardnosed, I appologize, but I have seen too many wonderful people let their lives get sapped of all the joy by people who behave that way, and I would hate to see that happen to you.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

Dan, thank u very much for your thoughts and input...

i've been pressing myself hard about why i care about him or how he feels...there had been good memories b/w me and him came to me...it's then i realized that yes i do have good feelings for him in spite of our unpleasant encounters the other night....what everyone knows about me and him is not the full picture...and relationship in general is not all that black and white...

memories such as he caught me when i was about to fall to the ground...he selflessly let me fall on him (he was sitting on the couch at the time) and i don't doubt that it hurt him badly b/c i was not that light...i was and still am over 100 lbs...he never complained about it...

then he massaged my calves in spite of the fact that he had gone to places that i didn't ask him to although they weren't bikini areas...my calves hurt badly before the massage...afterwards it was practically cured... he did me a big favor...he scored big w/ me there...

then there was a time when he cared about my finances and asked how i was doing financially as if he were ready to write me a check if i needed it when he saw me losing weight...

he knew that i'm sensitive to rejection from men...so he deliberately did not go talk to or flirt w/ other women when he was patiently waiting for a chance to engage me...he had done that many times...[this is actually a misunderstanding of one of my letters to him on his part...man we just have a real big communication gap b/w us unfortunately]

there're other selfless things he did...so as u can see, it's not all black and white...it's hard for me not to feel something for him...

when i said drag, i didn't mean physically dragged....i meant led


today i went to the conference talk in an attempt to find an answer as to what the Lord would think i should do...i deliberately flipped pass talks that might tell me that i should write to him ...i was trying to find some talk that would tell me that i could be apathetic to him...i stumbled across these passages:

"brothers & sisters, i believe that if we could truly understand the Atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ, we would realize how precious is one son or daughter of God. I believe our Heavenly Father's everlasting purpose for His children is generally achieved by the small and simplle things we do for one another. At the heart of the English word atonement is the word one. If all mankind understood this, there would never be anyone with whom we would not be concerned, regardless of age, race, gender, religion, or social or economic standing. We would strive to emulate the Savior & would never be unkind, indifferent, disrespectful or insensitive to others.

If we truly understood the Atonement & the eternal value of each soul, we would seek out the wayward boy & girl & every other wayward child of God. We would help them to know of the love Christ has for them. We would do all that we can to help prepare them to receive the saving ordinances of the gospel."

these passages struck me w/ perfect clarity...that's why i don't think i can be apathetic to him or just ignore him like i had been doing or just being unengaging with him...i think i will just go say hi and chit chat w/ him a bit...if he wants to ask me out, then i would just let him know that i'm only interested in being friends with him...

thanks again for taking the time to respond to my post...really appreciate it...

hugs,
ng

Originally posted by Dan Echo
Point is that many people stick with abusive and/or disrespectful people with the idea in mind that that person will change.
DanE

dan, he was only that way to me when he thought he lost interest in me...he's good to his familly but i believe he's that way to people he tries to distance, or ppl w/ whom there's no reciprocating interest from him...to me, either way, that's not really acceptable....the way he treated me when he lost interest in me was simply unacceptable...it wasn't like i was hopping all over him or made any physical attempts w/ him or flirted w/ him in any way...there was none of that...he shouldn't have done what he did...at any rate, his blatant disregard showed a great deal of apathy and a lot of other negativie attributes attached to his act...

With more info, I can see why you would think to give him another chance. Given what you have just said, I think you are right; remaining good friends is not a bad idea, but given the manner in which he tried to distance himself, I'd still say that dating might not be the best idea.

In any case, I hope things all work out for the best. Lovely post, by the way.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

Originally posted by Dan Echo
With more info, I can see why you would think to give him another chance. Given what you have just said, I think you are right; remaining good friends is not a bad idea, but given the manner in which he tried to distance himself, I'd still say that dating might not be the best idea.

In any case, I hope things all work out for the best. Lovely post, by the way.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

dan, i think i'll just be friends to him and whenever he approaches me, i'll just befriend him instead of brushing him off or ignoring him like i had been doing...my brushing him off and ignoring him has caused him great pain and i see that all over his body... it's very hard for me to see that...anyway, i don't think i will want to even try dating him b/c it's a bit risky in the sense that i don't know when he would find me "unfit" again and then we'll be going thru all that again...if that ever happens, i know that i will not stick around like i did the first time and will leave right away...still, i'm not sure if i'm comfortable w/ the idea of taking that chance again...

i always like to be friends w/ guys [w/ whom there's some attraction there] first and see if we can be just friends and if something more develops from there, then hurray...if not, friends are still good...

thx for your compliment on my post and for reading them...sometimes it's very frustrating to get a reply that sounded like that person did not read carefully and was just replying...so i really appreciated your thoughtful input and comments...

cheers,
ng

You deserve to have your posts read before a reply is typed, NG. Also, I'd like to say that he is very lucky and blessed to have a friend such as you in his life.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

Originally posted by Dan Echo
You deserve to have your posts read before a reply is typed, NG. Also, I'd like to say that he is very lucky and blessed to have a friend such as you in his life.

Keep on rockin',

DanE

**** DanE, thank u very much for all your support....yes he's very lucky to have a friend like me ;)...and i'm very lucky to have friends like u in here that are nonjudgmental of me and my flaws :)

cheers,
ng

Originally posted by nightingale
**** DanE, thank u very much for all your support....yes he's very lucky to have a friend like me ;)...and i'm very lucky to have friends like u in here that are nonjudgmental of me and my flaws :)

cheers,
ng

Flaws? What flaws?

DanE

PS, I am honoured that you would count me as a friend.

hey Dan, u totally rock, friend!!!!!!! :)

As do you, NG. I almost feel like we're i.m-ing tonight.

DanE

it sure feels that way, doesn't it?! :)

Originally posted by nightingale
it sure feels that way, doesn't it?! :)

Yeah. Kinda cool.

DanE