PoetOfDarkness 11-22-2004, 10:38 PM i've been doing some thinking on the subject...not for a long time though, only for my entire life, LoL. anyway...do any of you believe that there is a such thing as "true love". in the sence that there is someone out there, who is your "soul mate"?
i read a lot of posts on this board, and if i had to take a guess, i would say that most of you probably believe in true love, because i see so many happy couple, which is great! i'm a helpless romantic. when i was very young, i used to want to watch romantic movies and such, when everyone else in my class was afraid of "coodies". when i hit puberty, it skyrocketed. i was a romance junkie! i read short stories on the internet about romance. i loved it. the thought of two people not only falling in love, but their souls connecting on another level that's beyond the comprension of any form of science...it's very poetic and artistic. i'm a dreamer. a total fantasizer. i hate logic and such. that's why i love the idea of soul mates. it totally defies it. ::sigh:: but that was so long ago...
i'm a bit iffy on the subject now, to be honest. sometimes i have such hatred and animosity towards the world, it's hard for me to believe that love even exists. at least for me, anyway.
but i do believe that i have a soul mate...and that is my ex-girlfriend. as i said on another post, we immediately connetced. it was almost like we were one person. it was insane. but then once we fell it love...i knew it. i didn't even have to think about it. i just knew it. we were soul mates. she was mine and i was hers...but i compleatly messed it all up...i would do anything to get one more chance with my first love and my soul mate...but now i know that i'll never find a love that strong ever again.
well, like i was asking, do any of you believe in "true love"?
The Shadow 11-22-2004, 10:53 PM Yup!!! sure do....Hope,one day to find her..hope soon too.Feel she's out,somewhere problemly thinking the same thing,"Where are you...."
The Shadow
PinkPanther_04 11-22-2004, 11:07 PM Originally posted by PoetOfDarkness
i hate logic and such. that's why i love the idea of soul mates. it totally defies it. I love logic. Maybe that's why I don't like the idea of soul mates. I think there is definitely more than one person we could truly love. Relationships are hard work, and sometimes, even if we're with someone that we could be happy with, it still doesn't work out. Love just isn't always enough. Fortunately, most people will get other chances.
If there was only one person in the world you could truly love, how would you ever find that person? Who's to say they aren't in another country and you'll never find them at all? And what if you do find them but they die? You'd never be able to truly love someone again. Obviously it doesn't happen that way. And I'm glad it doesn't. I'd feel awfully sad for humanity if the odds were so small that we'd find our true love, and then we only got one chance to make it work.
Kristin 11-22-2004, 11:16 PM Sure I believe in true love - I've truly been in love every time!
I feel you never really know until it's all over (Jeremy agrees). If it's over in a couple of weeks/months/years - probably not true love. If it's over when one of you dies after 50 years and you still feel the same way about them - probably true love.
It sounds like it was true love for you, but not your ex girlfriend. Otherwise, you'd still be together in spite of your mistakes.
I don't believe in one soul mate. I think there are many people out there that are our match - for many of the same reasons Pink said.
special K 11-22-2004, 11:20 PM I'm with Pink Panther on this...
Don't believe there is only ONE (as in "Thee One") soulmate..but many who would fit in a communion of hearts with us. I think it was someone on the boards once who brought up the point that if there were only ONE, then what happened if we married that one, and then they died of cancer?? Does that mean we'd have to be with "second best" now and suffer not having a true soulmate? I don't think so.
Plus, living life for all these years, and having had many loves who could have been (and a couple who were) soulmates for the time we shared, I would have to agree that there is more than one potential person. Yet, once we are with that person, and we connect, they BECOME "Thee One" we invest in.
Does that make sense?
Zeliard 11-22-2004, 11:28 PM Thank you for starting the topic. The responses to this thread really opened up my paradigm prison.
yellowrose 11-22-2004, 11:58 PM but now i know that i'll never find a love that strong ever again.
But the magic of love is that YOU DO find it again. That is what makes life so wonderful sometimes. So don't put love in a box. ANYTHING can happen. :)
The Shadow 11-23-2004, 12:21 AM Very well said Ms.Yellowrose.For love is many many things.
The Shadow
marcy 11-23-2004, 05:45 AM I agree with all those above me.
I believe that you can truly be in love and that there is not *one* person for each of us. How sad the thought? Only one person on the planet for each of us...
What if he died before I met him... I'd be destined to be alone? To not reproduce? What if he lived on another side of the planet and I never had the chance to meet him?
No I don't believe that this could possibly be the case. I can say this about me and my life. My relationship with Smiwi is more complete and I feel in love in a way that I never was able to feel for another man before. This does not mean that I believe that I have never loved before or that I believe that if our relationship ended that I would never love again. It means that prior to this relationship, I likely didn't match as well with my partner!
Its glib to say, but you *will* fall in love again my friend! You may well never feel the same way you did about her with another, but you will fall in love again.
whiterose 11-23-2004, 05:45 AM The term true love is always confusing to me. I feel that love is love. Yes, I have loved one man more deeply than the others in my life, but that doesn't mean I am incapable of loving others. In fact, I've posted before that I still love my ex-husband, but my head says to stay away from another relationship with him. So, now I've opened up my heart to the possibility of loving another and I found that I have found love with Remi. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it is possible to love two men at once. ;) They are very different men. One is more healthy for me than another.
About soul mates.... I am going to take a very different track on this issue.... It's going to get deep here and probably some will think I'm whacked. But, oh well, this is my opinion. :p
I do not believe that here in this world we have only one partner to love in life.. as you can tell. But, what I do believe in is a soul mate in our after-life. I believe in reincarnation and I believe that we all have a partner in our after-life with whom we remain constant. I believe that sometimes that partner comes with us back into this life and sometimes they remain in the after-life to watch over us. But, we always return to each other upon our deaths in this world. This is a theory I read about once when studying reincarnation and the idea of that just felt right to me.
Ok, call me a kook now if you want to. :D
marcy 11-23-2004, 05:46 AM Originally posted by whiterose
I do not believe that here in this world we have only one partner to love in life.. as you can tell. But, what I do believe in is a soul mate in our after-life. I believe in reincarnation and I believe that we all have a partner in our after-life with whom we remain constant. I believe that sometimes that partner comes with us back into this life and sometimes they remain in the after-life to watch over us. But, we always return to each other upon our deaths in this world. This is a theory I read about once when studying reincarnation and the idea of that just felt right to me.
Can't call you a kook... I think thats a beautiful idea.
whiterose 11-23-2004, 09:01 AM Originally posted by sally
I believe there is one special person that should be defined as a true love....yourself!
Definitely! But, it's no fun to kiss yourself. ;)
MrsJonesolet 11-23-2004, 10:14 AM I think of my husband as my soulmate because I have never felt a stronger connection with anyone.....I have been hurt very badly in my life and as a result I have built up some mighty HIGH walls around my heart......but one by one he has taken them all down because his love is unwavering no matter how many hurdles he has had to jump.
I think it may be that people that have been through alot of pain with the relationships in thier life and have gotten to the point where they distrust most people.......are the ones that feel the strongest about the existence of soulmates and that *one* true love.
On the other hand people that have had the good fortune of having a happy childhood with loving parents,strong lasting friendships,close relationships with siblings etc. are people that will feel confident they will find another love.
I do think that if my husband and I were to part I may find another but I tell ya......I know it would be like finding a needle in a haystack for me.
DarkestHour5 11-23-2004, 12:15 PM Yes i believe in true love..soul mates... believe there is 1 person on this planet made for the other...and its your job to find that person...i think Love is doing anything you can for that 1 person...and true love is not being able to move on with ur life if you lose that one special person you are meant to be with along with doing anything you can for that person...1 way to make it work is maybe this? do w/e u can for that person and if they truly love you they will do same in return right? so in end doesnt it all work out for BOTH and not just one? :)...Things arent always easy and with love comes great pain but you get so much more out of it...just doing something for the other makes you feel as tho you have saved the world...yea i believe love is 1 of the greatest and worse things on this planet...but without it are you really living? i dont think so...
DarkestHour5 11-23-2004, 12:58 PM what i meant by cant go on...is knowing that person is out there and you know that you arent with em...not that u cant live or that u will die...Time "heals" all wounds right? what i meant by that is that would be something that would never heal...not that u sit around and cry for the rest of ur life...just that you would have thoughts of it now and than of "what if i did this better" or "only if"...things you would look back on and wish went diff..sure u do that with love...but goes away over time...but with true love i dont feel as tho u would ever stop missing that person...or sharing what u did with them...
special K 11-23-2004, 02:30 PM You are so wise in your "old age", Amina;) I loved everything you said !!
PoetOfDarkness 11-23-2004, 04:15 PM i'm sorry if i sound naive, but the reason i believe my ex-girlfriend is my soul mate is because no matter what happens, i'm still in love with her. and that deep in my heart of hearts and in my soul, i KNOW i'll always love her.
one saying i've always believed in...
"the brains thinks. the heart knows "
Kristin 11-23-2004, 04:49 PM Poet, I guess that, if I believed in a one-time soul mate, then I would believe that you are made for each other, that you both would feel the same way.
You are obviously still in love. She has moved on. So she can't possibly be your soul mate, on that standard, or else she would still be with you, if at all possible.
Move on with the positive knowledge that your true soul mate is still out there. If you keep pining away for this other girl, you will never find the one that is truly meant for you. She out there waiting for you boy - go get her! ;)
fos4snt 11-23-2004, 04:50 PM PoD... I haven't really chimed in on this thread topic, and I'm not inclined to... dunno why, honestly. But wanted to say this: My first real boyfriend... Oh my. I loved him so deeply, so dearly.. so truly and innocently and naively. We dated exclusively for three years (never slept together). There is a part of me that will always, always love him. He is still what I consider a good friend. We stay in touch through email and have stayed in touch now for over 20 years. For many of those years he would call me once a year when he was feeling suicidal, just to be reminded there was a reason to keep living... that someone loved him. While I am in no way now inclined to say he was my "soul mate," I certainly FELT that way for many, many years.
He is now living in Florida with a woman over 25 years older than him and has been stable and happy for the last 6 years with her. Does he still think I'm his soul mate? I highly, highly doubt it... but we do still have love for each other. So many years later, I count him among one of my most favorite people. Despite the serious downer that annual call from him always was... I am so unbelievably happy for him now... grateful he has found a woman who appreciates him and brings out the best in him.
YOU will find that person, too. Someday. Patience. Life is a journey... there isn't always a goal to be achieved. It's the journey itself which is so wonderful. It's wonderful for its high moments of pure bliss and its low, low moments of utter agony, because the agony makes the bliss so much more powerful and you appreciate it so much more.
But, yes... part of you will always love her. And that's okay. In fact, that's beautiful, when you think about it. I'm SO grateful to have LOVED and lost than to have never loved at all!
And let me tell you... I've been battered and bruised by relationships many times. But, I have LOVED. It doesn't even matter to me that I have lost, for I have loved and to give is far more rewarding than to receive.
~phosphorescent
Kristin 11-23-2004, 04:54 PM OK, I just said the same darned thing but she wrote it sooo much better!! :p
wildthing 11-24-2004, 11:08 AM here goes the conclusions i have drawn from my thoughts and experiences on the subject.
i believe part of what draws us together is how we are wired, possibly our electromagnetic fields (everyone knows how magnets work, this would just be on a more complex level than just positive and negitive)
there are a number of people who could fit the requirements for being your opposite *magnet* i have felt this with a few people. i know in my heart that i loved them body, mind and soul and they felt the same for me. i also know that part of me will love them forever.
but, like it has been mentioned in other places here, love alone is not enough. both people have to be willing to move heaven and earth to make it work.
so even though you had an intense connection, for whatever reason, it didn't work out. that doesn't mean you won't ever find someone else to love. you just have to keep yourself open to all the possiblities out there and have hope :D
and yes, you do have to love yourself first, but that has more to do with being able to accept yourself enough to let someone love you and share all of yourself with someone else, no matter what you are like.
kittylane 11-24-2004, 03:46 PM yes, i believe in true love his name is Adam. we have been thru alot and all the day to day stuff trivalizes when the one you love is in the army and away. i believe i have been given this amazing man and sometimes i just feel so incredibly lucky. no one measures up to him to me, and i think i respond to him differently than anyone else on earth, he just always loves me. so, yes, i very much believe in true love.
smilinqueen 11-24-2004, 04:09 PM At the risk of sounding like a complete loser I would have to say that I agree with everyone. You all have such great views on the subject and obviously we all beleive in the power of love, or we wouldn't be here.
PoD your heart and your head will be agreement. Sometimes it just takes time. Love is not something unattainable and unreachable for us, and although you do not have the love of your ex-girlfriend at the moment, that does not mean that your heart is not capeable of loving another. It sounds to me like your heart needs some time to heal forst though.
"NO DAY BUT TODAY" -Rent
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