divine_ms_m 07-18-2005, 03:31 AM This is a question for forum members that are in interracial AGRs.
Which do you find elicits more of a "reaction" from those you know you, the age gap or the interracial aspect of your relationship?
Just wondering. :)
BellaLove 07-18-2005, 12:03 PM I would say the age gap definitally. A lot of people here in CA are in inter-racial relationships so it isn't such a shock to see...... it's much more of a shock to see the age gap. :-)
marcy 07-18-2005, 12:11 PM Well I'm not in an age gap interracial relationship at the moment. However, my ex-husband is Chinese and my new husband is 20 (I'm 37). I would definately say that my current marriage elicits a much stronger reaction from people.
fos4snt 07-18-2005, 12:54 PM Am I in an interracial relationship? :eek: I KNOW I'm in an age gap one, but I'm not so sure about the inter-racial. Litical's Dad is from Nicaragua and his Mom is an all American Mutt like me (altho, I get to add cherokee to the mix)... so HE is inter-racial... but I'm not sure that makes US an inter-racial couple.
Not like I even CARE about that aspect. I am human. He is human. We are beautifully human together. If someone wants to make assumptions about either of us based on race, it only makes THEM look stupid. :eek:
People definitely don't make mention of either of our "race" but they do mention the age gap from time to time.
~phos
1love 07-18-2005, 04:21 PM I have been in both types of relationships, not all at once....but, the interacial relationship drew much more of a response. :eek:
wcoloto 07-18-2005, 05:43 PM I think its more of a shock to more people for a White/Black couple then it is for a White/Hispanic couple, or White/Asian.....Of course because of the history between Blacks and Whites.
Harrison 07-18-2005, 06:02 PM Which draws more of a reaction?
It's hard to say because we live in a part of the country (West Coast -- WA) where interracial couples are very common.
I'd had people ask me about my wife and if we were planning to have kids, so based on that implicit assumption (that she's under 42 or so), I'd say the interracial aspect draws more attention.
Due to my wife's youthful appearance, we look like a couple with a 6 year age gap as opposed to the 16 year gap that it really is.
sheila4pd 07-18-2005, 06:20 PM In Panama it is very common to see an American/Panamanian couple. In the US I have experienced that I get more looks from Mexicans than from Americans, I do not know if it is because we are interracial or AGR. AGRs in Panama where the woman is much older are very rare so I forsee a lot of reaction about that when he visits me for the first time.
roho3710 07-18-2005, 06:55 PM Where I am from the AGR does draw stares and comments, but throw in inter-racial with it, and we have a scandal!! Small southern town mentality at its worst. I don't bring anyone that I date anywhere near the people that I live by or work with.... sad but true. I teach high school and think that I would fear for my job if I did anything considered scandalous by administrator's viewpoints. Most of the people who are my acquaintances just think that I have not dated in a very long time.... Part of me would love to shock them by bringing home a much younger, most apparently different-raced man--- but I won't. Of course, if I one day find true love with such a man, then yea for me!!
educo 07-19-2005, 04:13 AM Mostly the age gap gets stares, but since my former relationship was interracial and since I live in NYC, i get the "sugardaddy" assumption.
Flyer 07-19-2005, 06:31 PM I agree with BellaLove, in California, the interracial couple is no big deal, it's so common. Pretty much the agr doesn't raise many eyebrows either. I think in California we are a lot more open-minded that other parts of the country. Just guessing, though.
Flyer
Charlotte 07-20-2005, 12:02 AM heh
It's extremely common here to be in interracial relationships.
I find that being in a non-interracial relationship with a German man IN Germany, and my father being from Germany, that people tend to make an issue of it more so than of his age.
They seem surprised that I'm "going back to my roots," as I've heard repeatedly.
emero 12-02-2005, 07:57 AM I think its more of a shock to more people for a White/Black couple then it is for a White/Hispanic couple, or White/Asian.....Of course because of the history between Blacks and Whites.
I'm dating an hispanic man who is 13 years younger than me, the only person who has had a problem with it is him... Why are you dating me? I'm the foreign guy, you could have any of the english guys ( at the time a few guys had asked me on dates)
I said to him, I chose you because of you, not because you are colombian, nor because i think all hispanics are hot
I like you not the english guys( I've dated a few) they don't do anything for me, you do
No one has said anything about his skin colour, he just looks to me like he has a tan, though he goes much darker in the summer (lovelyeeeee)(getting carried away)
Maybe some people have a problem, though I haven't encountered anyone while I've been with him
ZenWarrior 12-02-2005, 10:24 AM This Which do you find elicits more of a "reaction" from those you know you, the age gap or the interracial aspect of your relationship?
From my experiences, and in multivariate statistics parlance, I'd say there is more of a significant interaction effect rather than a strong main effect from either. (That is setting aside those statisticians who feel there must always be a main effect if there are any interaction effects, a point still sometimes debated.)
BellaLove 12-02-2005, 04:35 PM I wish I would have had the chance to date an African American man...... they are just SO handsome and classy.
Had to say that. :-)
I wish I would have had the chance to date an African American man...... they are just SO handsome and classy.
Lots of white women say this. I don't get it. How is the average black man classier than the average white man? Can someone please explain this to me?
Flanker 12-02-2005, 10:37 PM My first AGR was killed precisely because of people’s reaction.
“Would you like to buy a rose for you mom?” a Moonie street vendor asked me while I was walking with my lady on the promenade in Santa Monica. Things like that made me chicken out.
Flanker 12-02-2005, 10:41 PM Lots of white women say this. I don't get it. How is the average black man classier than the average white man? Can someone please explain this to me?
She is just complimenting black men. There is nothing sinister about that. :)
When I was in college, I used to say to my GF, "Wisconsin women are the sexiest!” It was just a compliment.
divine_ms_m 12-02-2005, 11:15 PM My first AGR was killed precisely because of people’s reaction…
Wait! Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that your first OW was the victim of a hate crime because of your relationship?
:confused: :eek:
Harrison 12-03-2005, 07:42 AM Wait! Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that your first OW was the victim of a hate crime because of your relationship?
:confused: :eek:
I think he means his relationship, divine. His AGR (or age gap relationship) was killed.
Right, Flanker? :)
Harrison 12-03-2005, 08:01 AM I wish I would have had the chance to date an African American man...... they are just SO handsome and classy.
Lots of white women say this. I don't get it. How is the average black man classier than the average white man? Can someone please explain this to me?
Mark, she didn't say "average" --- YOU did. :p
Classy is a social construct that you probably have some awareness of. At least that photo of you with a saxophone would suggest so.
Why not openly admit that you wish you had the same mojo that Charlie Parker did?? :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Charlie_Parker.jpg/260px-Charlie_Parker.jpg
divine_ms_m 12-03-2005, 10:40 AM I think he means his relationship, divine. His AGR (or age gap relationship) was killed.
Right, Flanker? :)
Oh boy. **looking pathetically sheepish as she wipes egg from face** :o
Thanks Harrison. I should NEVER post when I'm tired.
Flanker 12-03-2005, 04:15 PM I think he means his relationship, divine. His AGR (or age gap relationship) was killed.
Right, Flanker? :)
Yes, Harrison that is correct! :)
Flanker 12-03-2005, 04:16 PM Oh boy. **looking pathetically sheepish as she wipes egg from face** :o
Thanks Harrison. I should NEVER post when I'm tired.
Divine! Don't be so harsh on yourself. It happens. Not a big deal! :)
Flanker 12-03-2005, 04:28 PM Mark, she didn't say "average" --- YOU did. :p
Classy is a social construct that you probably have some awareness of. At least that photo of you with a saxophone would suggest so.
Why not openly admit that you wish you had the same mojo that Charlie Parker did?? :D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Charlie_Parker.jpg/260px-Charlie_Parker.jpg
Harrison,
Evil you! LOL! So, Bella was talking about this handsome, classy man?
BellaLove 12-12-2005, 05:51 PM LOL..... I was thinking more along the lines of Morris Chestnut.....Mmmmmmm
Oh please! And I was just simply stating my opinion about black men....NOT comparing. I think they are beautiful, strong people and I would have been honored to date one. :-)
Take it however you like. :-) :D
divine_ms_m 12-12-2005, 09:52 PM LOL..... I was thinking more along the lines of Morris Chestnut.....Mmmmmmm…
…Mmmmmm…Morris Chestnut…***drooling in Homer Simpsonesque fashion*** :p :D
Flanker 12-12-2005, 11:22 PM LOL..... I was thinking more along the lines of Morris Chestnut.....Mmmmmmm
Oh please! And I was just simply stating my opinion about black men....NOT comparing. I think they are beautiful, strong people and I would have been honored to date one. :-)
Take it however you like. :-) :D
Black women can be very sexy too. I really have a crush on Condoleeza Rice. I think she is hot. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/FlankerZZXX/100-DrRice-S161-31-th.jpg
Harrison 12-13-2005, 12:27 AM Black women can be very sexy too. I really have a crush on Condoleeza Rice. I think she is hot. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/FlankerZZXX/100-DrRice-S161-31-th.jpg
Hahaha, Flanker! :D The "Brown Sugar" Syndrome.
I think you might be amused by the survey we did about Condoleeza Rice:
http://www.agelesslove.com/boards/showthread.php?t=19704&highlight=Condoleeza+Rice
Flanker 12-13-2005, 12:37 AM Hahaha, Flanker! :D The "Brown Sugar" Syndrome.
I think you might be amused by the survey we did about Condoleeza Rice:
http://www.agelesslove.com/boards/showthread.php?t=19704&highlight=Condoleeza+Rice
:D LOL
That is a nice song!
Also, Dr. Rice is a very intelligent woman. There is nothing like listening to an intelligent woman talk. I love hearing her speeches. I wish she were a democrat. I do not know what she sees in the Republican Party. :)
Am I on the right page I just want to talk to someone around my age or older I am 47 plaster contactor vested in the union and I alway s been happy with someone older then I :p
Opalstar 01-25-2006, 02:07 PM I am in an interracial/faith AGR. My first relationship with a considerably younger man ( he is 26 I am 52.)
We have only been going out for two months so far, and do get stared at a little when out and about in London. Not sure if it is down to our age difference, or due to the fact that I am English and he is from the Middle East.
We have loads of things that make us different, but also much that means we are very compatible.
Ultimately I only care what we feel about our relationship, not what others may think.
Darling Andy 01-06-2007, 10:57 AM I have been in an IR/IG relationship for 2 years now. I haven't really noticed too much of a reaction when I'm out in public with my OW (I'm 21, she's 48). I have gotten a couple dirty looks from guys who I'd say are roughly her age, but I think that's mainly just jealousy or anti-ir dating annoyance.
stevesm4 03-16-2007, 08:38 PM As a white male 49-ish, I really want a black girl/woman.
Kare Bear 03-17-2007, 12:27 AM Jay is 25 and black; I am 47 and white. The answer to this question for us is - sometimes both. And sometimes neither. The people who know us don't give it a second thought. It took me a long time to just not care what other people think. We're the only ones we have to please. No one ever accuses me of being his mother, that's for sure ;-) Depends on what part of town we're in as to whether we get "the look" or not. I think people have come a long way in their thinking on this subject. I get a lot of "You GO, girl" looks from people. Jay, however, will tell you that I read way more into it than I should - his motto? Live and let live.
bubbleee 03-17-2007, 09:29 PM Jay's Love, it's good to see you! How are you guys doing? Last I heard Jay was going off to Texas and you weren't sure you could follow, I think. Give us an update!
I've often wondered if it's harder to be in an inter-racial AGR. Sounds like it's rather similar to any AGR relationship in that at first it's a tough concept but after awhile it's pretty much like any other relationship.
Best,
Bub
Kare Bear 03-17-2007, 09:45 PM Hey :-) Yeah - August 2005 -- We were both in Texas, 20 minutes away from each other. We had been together 2 years -- Jay finished his Master's and moved to Phoenix; said he'd always wanted to live there, had family there, etc. It was really tough - and expensive - because we decided to try to hold it together -- so the back and forth wasn't easy! In February of 2006, just 6 months later, he told me he'd made a huge mistake - and that he wanted to come back home to Texas. He said he missed me too much - missed his family, etc. He decided to stay there until he had been with his company for a year - which was this past October. Since then, he's been diligently trying to either get a transfer back to Texas, or find another job here so that he can come back home :yes: It's been trying and difficult and really hard being apart, but we've managed so far. I've had some health problems with kidney stones and four surgeries for same - and that's been really hard being apart during that, too. Hold a good thought - hopefully he'll get that transfer and be back soon -- and we can continue the love story - but no longer long distance! Man - that made me think - how hard is that? Not only AGR, interracial, but LDR too. What a mix. I'm ready to narrow it down just a tad!
Thanks for asking about us - hope you're doing well!
~Karen
Alawiy 03-17-2007, 10:53 PM I agree with BellaLove, in California, the interracial couple is no big deal, it's so common. Pretty much the agr doesn't raise many eyebrows either. I think in California we are a lot more open-minded that other parts of the country. Just guessing, though.
Flyer
That's one of the reasons why they say "California is a world all it's own". Anything goes here! In some ways, that's really nice.
My first husband was a European/Philippino mix that looked Italian, but he had really fairish skin, so we got no comments about that whatsoever.
Second husband was born in India and was very very dark skinned. I married him while I was living here in California and nobody made any kind of a comment at all. I was 8 years older than him. In our religion, it's very clear that there are never to be any race boundries in relationships, and we had one of those verses from the Qur'an read during our wedding ceremony. Others in attendance at the ceremony were also inter-racial couples, so this made no difference. I could hear from the crowd now and then someone whispering "she's so beautiful!" which really made me feel great because as I was looking out at the wedding attendees, I felt like THEY were the gorgeous ones!
Now my YM is 20 and I'm 46... we haven't been together yet.. LDR for now, but both is friends and my friends have seen pictures of the other. No comments about our ethnicities (he's Arab from Arabian desert ancestry, therefore, Asian), but people always guess him to be Puerto Rican. It looks to me from where I sit he's fair skinned.
So I guess everyone's only making the issue of the Age Gap.
When I was in my early 20's, the only men ever interested in me were the African American men I knew. I dated one for a while and really loved him. We wanted to be married. But that was in the south (North Carolina) where the KKK is still alive and well, and so it was strongly suggested to me that I think about the safety of my family. I broke it off with him for that reason. He was older than me - nobody paid any attention to that at all.
jellybean400 03-17-2007, 11:38 PM I was in a 13-yr IR, and then a 2-yr AGR.
No one really seemed to notice the IR. He was Cuban, and probably just looked Italian to people.
OTOH, everyone seemed to notice the AGR. We worked together, so that made it kind of something that everyone talked about, i guess. People always teased me with stuff like "go for it!" etc. because it was obvious the attraction we had for each other. But that wasnt the only thing there was to the relationship.
The "look" of it was much more obvious (he was around 26, i was around 44 when it started). I think that's why more people seemed to notice. But i totally dont care what anybody else thinks OR says.
RobsGirl 03-18-2007, 12:05 AM Try dating a Native American in Indian Country...we get way more comments on the I/R than the A/G. He looks older than I do, so it's not even an issue...but the skin color? We get it from both sides...the Indian Wars still go on to a certain point here in the Dakotas. I get asked what I'm doing with 'one of them'. When he was out here he got asked "why was he forsaking his race to date a white woman?".
White people think of Native Americans as a lesser species in this neck of the woods - they're all drunk imbeciles who don't want to work in their minds. (Del owning his own successful business is mind blowing to my friends here, they can't comprehend that.) And there are a lot of traditional Natives who believe that Natives need to date Natives only to preserve the blood lines. Del did that, his first wife was Native, they had three kids, he feels he's done his part for the Nations, now he's with somebody who actually cares about him in return.
By and large, the harder time we get, though, comes from white people as opposed to Natives. White folks out here just can't seem to get their head around the fact that Indians aren't these evil horrible people just out to live off the government or drink themselves into stupors...We were interviewing set dressers and this white lady had the gall to point at Del's pic on my desk and ask me if I was sponsoring some family on the rez. She literally quit the interview and got up and left when I said that he was my boyfriend. Go figure...
Rescued 03-18-2007, 04:06 PM I'm new to this site so hope no one minds me chiming in.
I'm 28 and white and my OM is 45 and African American (I've only ever been with one white man.)
I'm sure we've gotten some looks but it's really not that bad. I've found and he's noticed a lot himself, that the majority of the looks we get aren't related to the age gap but more so African American women who seem to dislike seeing African American men with white women.
It doesn't bother me at all. No matter who it is that gives us a odd look, we just smile and continue on. We love each other too much to care what others think. ;)
JennyJen 03-18-2007, 04:13 PM My mom is white and my step dad is black (she's 6 yrs older thah him too). Everytime we go out people look at us. For the most part no one really says or does anything but we've gotten some nasty looks and some remarks (at least my mom has). People have thought that I was mixed (I'm not) or that I was with him (when were just out alone together), I have to tell them that he's my dad. For the most part no one says anything but we get the looks.
Angel 03-18-2007, 10:57 PM Old posts revived FTW!
We don't have problems with the people who matter most to us. And I never thought the area I live in would be considered a racist area, but boy I was wrong.
I'm so sick of hearing slighted Mexican jokes from people that I could about scream.
Actually I hear them a lot in game, on the web, and where I live. It's really uncalled for and very degrading. I feel bad for my fiance sometimes when people make cracks and then look at him and say, "You know I'm just kidding right?". They genuinely may have been joking, but after him hearing it so much the jokes get old.
When I'm in his hometown I always get eyed up. They can't figure out why he would date a white girl instead of a nice latino girl. They give me that look like, "Are you lost?". I kick out a couple comments in Spanish (learning quickly!) and they back off.
But I can only imagine what other minorities go through. Definitely has tempered the way I treat and speak to people.
PS - / I don't know you Jay's, but I'm sending my prayers your way for his quick relocation! LDR's are tough!
Kare Bear 03-18-2007, 11:14 PM Thanks, Angel -- I appreciate that. Believe it or not - my first husband was hispanic. My daughter is 1/2 - but is whiter than I am - and blue eyed. We were married for 20 years. So interracial issues aren't really new to me, although it's interesting that people seem to view black and white WAY different from hispanic and white - I don't know why. Jay is one of the best people I know... just a good man through and through. People kill me that they judge on site. Just not me or how I am - or how I was raised.
My former sister-in-law is also white and blue eyed -- we overheard our father-in-law one time - exclaiming in spanish - that he didn't know where he went wrong -- both of his boys "like white girls." I looked at her (younger than me), and said, Welcome to the family, my friend....
Hang tough, Angel!
Angel 03-19-2007, 09:41 PM Thanks, Angel -- I appreciate that. Believe it or not - my first husband was hispanic. My daughter is 1/2 - but is whiter than I am - and blue eyed. We were married for 20 years. So interracial issues aren't really new to me, although it's interesting that people seem to view black and white WAY different from hispanic and white - I don't know why. Jay is one of the best people I know... just a good man through and through. People kill me that they judge on site. Just not me or how I am - or how I was raised.
My former sister-in-law is also white and blue eyed -- we overheard our father-in-law one time - exclaiming in spanish - that he didn't know where he went wrong -- both of his boys "like white girls." I looked at her (younger than me), and said, Welcome to the family, my friend....
Hang tough, Angel!
I think that's terrible. I told all my children. Love is a precious gift and you should always be thankful for it regardless. All my kids know (and have dated) based on their preference and not some hidden agenda I've created for them.
For a period of time I thought my son may have been gay and had to really test my faith in love having no boundaries. In the end I decided that kids have enough crap to go through with their peers. We decided, regardless of sexual preference, we would support him and keep his home a safe place to retreat to. That was a big test to my morals and belief system.
It's sad that you've been discriminated against. I had a black male friend once pushing my blonde hair blue-eyed son around in his stroller one day and you could only imagine the comments we heard. And we weren't even a couple! I agree. The prejudice is higher when it's white/black vs. white/hispanic.
RobsGirl 03-19-2007, 10:06 PM The prejudice is higher when it's white/black vs. white/hispanic.
Like I said, try dating a Native American...it's not as rosy as some people might surmise, you get blasted from both sides.
aemale05 03-24-2007, 08:31 PM My ex was both white and 38 when we met I was 18, so it was a shock all the way around..
moxieme 03-26-2007, 04:37 PM I just posted my intro and that is the essence of my concern. I'm African American. In researching my ancestry I found my great-grandfather was a Confederate military officer who created 2 children with my great-grandmother, the "house mammy". Don't mean to be offensive in any way. My siblings range from very, very, very fair or light to dark tones (I'm somewhere in the middle). Several of my siblings have married people of other races. Most of us have dated interracially. I know how cruel society can be. Someone in both races involves had something to say. I really want age, race, financial status not to be an issue. In many ways, a homosexual partnership is less scrutinized than any of other ones I mentioned. I am confronted with all three elements. But, I know how I feel and I just with it wasn't the way it is.
sheila4pd 03-26-2007, 06:59 PM The prejudice is higher when it's white/black vs. white/hispanic.
Hispanics come in all colors, do you see a difference depending on the color of the hispanic?
Athena83 04-02-2007, 04:55 PM This is a question for forum members that are in interracial AGRs.
Which do you find elicits more of a "reaction" from those you know you, the age gap or the interracial aspect of your relationship?
Just wondering. :)
I see people with "ordinary" AGRs have replied in this thread, so I'll take my chances:
I'm in an AGR with an OM, we're both white. He's American, I'm Norwegian. The thing is that sometimes we've gotten looks, and my OM has said that in the US there seems to be a far higher acceptance for interracial couples than age gap couples. I don't know if this is the case, but I know from seeing interracial couples in Oslo, Norway, where I live, that people seem to look a few extra times when the guy is visibly older than the woman, whereas interracial relationships are more or less accepted everywhere.
Well, that's just my ramblings from life here, and my American OM's observations over the years. I think it's a sad topic though, that some couples should be "looked down upon" or judged(isn't it that what the looks are about?) just because they're of different ages, or skin colors. This shouldn't happen to anyone in 2007. Instead, people should feel happy when they see two people brought together by love. On the subway, I sometimes smile to myself when I see some couple hugging, holding hands or whatever, that's the way it should be:)
TheVixenne 04-03-2007, 04:07 PM Hi everyone, I'm Kym but everyone pretty much knows me as The Vixenne. I'm 40 years old and my significant other is 31. I'm black and he's latino. I guess it's true that here on the West Coast interracial couples are not all that unusual so thankfully we don't have to deal with all the ignorance that it seems a few others who live in other regions of the country do. Not that we don't get our share of looks because there's not only the age and race aspect, but I'm also taller than he is. What attracted me to him and still keeps me attracted to him is that he's so comfortable in his masculinity that mu height doesn't bother him. In fact, he's the one who likes for me to wear heels (tee hee).
It's not all wine and roses though because we've had to deal with a few nasty comments from people who don't seem to have the ability to mind their own business. Frankly, with all the hate in the world, one would think we'd be more than happy to celebrate more positive emotions like love, no matter where it's found or whomever with. Silly me. Of course, witht the both of us being incredibly opinionated, we have no problems getting right back into people's faces and challenging them. He's a quiet metal musician (I know, I know), but he's also dangerous when provoked. It's nice feeling secure.
Love to all, the Vixenne
grace467 01-24-2008, 11:51 AM To be honest, we haven't really come across much of a reaction either age-wise or race-wise although if I had to pick, I would probably say race since we look like we're in about the same age group (although there is a 14 year gap). If I come across someone that seems to be giving us the eye for whatever reason, I just snuggle in closer to my man and give him a little kiss on the cheek - lol - I love to flaunt the fact that I'm in love with a tall, sexy, handsome black man - lol. It's AMAZING!
cuteguy37048 01-29-2008, 03:02 AM Like I said, try dating a Native American...it's not as rosy as some people might surmise, you get blasted from both sides.
Lol :)
They could try to blast me, but I'm part Cherokee and proud of it :)
(Yes I do wear Moccasins. I have 3 pairs of them.)
However I'd have to say it would be the gap. But I dated an Asian OW.
~Guinavere~ 01-29-2008, 05:32 AM Like I said, try dating a Native American...it's not as rosy as some people might surmise, you get blasted from both sides.
You are so right! My son's partner is 38 and she is Navajo; my son is 29. It took her family a while to accept my son into the family. Not because of his age, but because of his race. They would even make racial remarks about him being white. I haven't asked my son if they get any criticism from the other side or not. They live in Phoenix...so it might be more common to see the inter-racial couples. Not sure.
RobsGirl 01-29-2008, 09:43 AM OMG, Navajo's are like THE biggest BQ Nazi's - I'm impressed her family let him in the house at all! They seriously hate whites. At the same time, they're also hateful to their own kind as well. The Dine are the WORST Indians to deal with when it comes to being racist to their own kind. Many times they will literally disown half-bloods and not even allow them to be part of the tribe, attend the schools, and they can be particularly vicious. We know a woman who, as a child and being half-Dine (that's a branch of Navajo, for those who don't know), she was ganged up and tossed over the side of the grand canyon with a rope tied around her waist - thankfully a ranger was near by and stopped the group that was torturing her. At the time she was ten and this was a group of teenagers and young adults that ganged up on her. For your son's sake, I hope his gf's family is on the cooler side because if they ever got married...it could get ugly. Interesting thing is down in AZ and NM, there's less hassle from whites re: Indian/white relationships. At least that's been our experience!!
~Guinavere~ 01-29-2008, 07:32 PM OMG, Navajo's are like THE biggest BQ Nazi's - I'm impressed her family let him in the house at all! They seriously hate whites. At the same time, they're also hateful to their own kind as well. The Dine are the WORST Indians to deal with when it comes to being racist to their own kind. Many times they will literally disown half-bloods and not even allow them to be part of the tribe, attend the schools, and they can be particularly vicious. We know a woman who, as a child and being half-Dine (that's a branch of Navajo, for those who don't know), she was ganged up and tossed over the side of the grand canyon with a rope tied around her waist - thankfully a ranger was near by and stopped the group that was torturing her. At the time she was ten and this was a group of teenagers and young adults that ganged up on her. For your son's sake, I hope his gf's family is on the cooler side because if they ever got married...it could get ugly. Interesting thing is down in AZ and NM, there's less hassle from whites re: Indian/white relationships. At least that's been our experience!!
They have lived together for 7 years now. And they still give him ****! Basically her entire family live together, except for the one sister (and she is a royal *****). The brothers don't work. They draw off the govt and/or find other ways to stay alive...mostly by mooching. It has been a real contention for my son. And his gf basically told him that to have her, he has to accept that her family will always come first! Don't get me wrong...I love her! She is the mother of my beautiful grandchildren. She is a good mother and she loves my son. She is also disabled with crippling arthritis, yet still works very hard as the matriarch of the family since her mother died last March. I have a lot of respect for her. But her family is the laziest bunch of people I have ever met. I have only had any real contact with her, her youngest sister (a sweetie) and one of her brothers (sweet, but lazy).
My son and her have split a couple of times when he just couldn't take them all living together and it was just him and her working to pay for everything. Her mother worked, but gave all of her money to the lazy brothers. So much of a different culture than what my son could handle for a while. But he loves her, and he has said that since she is the mother of his children, he won't ever leave her.
thinkyellow 02-01-2008, 11:36 AM Not in a relationship currently, but have been in both age gap and interracial relationships. For me, it was the age gap aspect that drew the most unsolicited opinions (rolling eyes to ceiling).
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