Whiterose

I hope all is well with you. You are in my thoughts and prayers. You have been exceptionally kind and supportive of so so so many of us. I hope you know that you are dearly loved here.

Lets leave warm, kind wishes to Kat here. I hope she reads them and feels supported.

I hope your out celebrating an approved visa kat! We're anxiously awaiting news from you and I hope that you're doin good.

i want to 2nd this.

i also want to add that this is how we ALL should be toward each other. supportive.

and if one finds that they CAN'T be supportive, keep it to yaself!!!

we can debate and argue and discuss and this that and the other. we can get miffed and booty-hurt to our heart's content.

but when it comes down to it, find a kind word. find a place of empathy. find a place of joy for someone else's joy's.

i hold kat very near and dear to my heart. the past complaints of folks about her don't mean two flying FIGS to me. and the same goes for several others on here. i wouldn't care if folks set up a revolt against you tomorrow. i'd claim you as my own.

i haven't spoken with Kat. i don't know that anyone has. but if she's reading this, know that you are SO loved and respected and valued and no matter what......WE are here for YOU!

often times, it kills us to 'not know' lol, i know it does ME. specially when it's someone i care about.

anyhoo, thanks marcy for starting this up and hopefully we'll get word soon.

Please know that your in my thoughts today.

We are all pulling for you girl...Be well my friend.........

Mine, too. Hope you're well, Kat. Let us know how everything went as SOON as you can, okay!!!???!!!

~phos

Nothing to say but ditto.
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http://www.animationlibrary.com/Animation11/Animals/Bears_and_Pandas/Panda_teddy.gif(((Katrina)))

I hope everything is good with you, just know that you have a lot of support, love, and hugs coming from here!

I'm fairly new here, but I echo all that you have to say about Whiterose. She is a wise woman and a tireless supermoderator and she has been a source of inspiration to me. Whatever is going on with you and Remi, I have confidence you will handle it with wisdom and grace, as that is your nature. You are in my thoughts! :)

Katrina, you are in my thoughts....

Good luck to both of you....let us know.

I want to add my well wishes and good thoughts your way, Kat. You are an amazing person. We all love and support you!

I'm thinkin' of ya, Katrina...
Good thoughts and *hugs* to you!

~Dan

Iubirea trece prin apa, nu-i e frica ca se-neaca.


my thoughts are with you and Remi

love

Aline

ps:hope I got my Romanian right :confused:

Yes, I just wanted to add my good wishes and hope everything is well :D

I hope all is well and worked out. You have quite a few people here worrying about you. Try to give us some news :)

katrina...girlfriend... been through a lot together, ups and downs... still here.

thoughts and prayers

Thinking of you Katrina
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I have been spending time with Kat, and she is okay. Im sure it's obvious that not everything has gone according to the original plan.

I know she thinks the world of all of you, and Im sure she will appreciate this thread.

Thank you for being such wonderful, kind-hearted people.

Thanks, Jody. I was holding out hope .....

Whiterose, all I can say is that I'm holding you in my heart, and sending out a plea to the universe to please work this out for you.

((((((((((((((((((((((((( BIG HUG ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Oh, Katrina... I won't intrude on this thread but, as quiet as I've been of late, I have been following and you are in my prayers more than I could ever describe in words. I hope and pray with all my heart that your story has the happy ending you so very richly deserve.


*hugs*

Kelley

Jody,

Thanks for letting us know about Kat. Yes, we all knew that no news was not good news in this case.


Kat,

Somehow the universe unfolds as it should. I don't know why this is happening to you, but please know that we care so very much about your well being.

Hugs to you, sweetie.
Bub

Thanks you all.....Your wonderful friends.

Kat read the thread, and it made her all teary. She very much appreciates your support.

Im sure in a bit of time when she has collected her thoughts, she will be posting here to you.

In the meantime, the thread meant a lot to her....((hugs))

Thanks Jody....

(((Katrina)))

Blessings, health and happiness to you! I am worried about you :( ...I hope you're ok!!! XOXO
Hope you're back soon and that you let us know how you're doing!!! Annie.

Ok, what did I miss.

I'm a bit confuse, will someone let me know Kat's ok

Paris

I too am sending my best thoughts to you Katrina! In difficult times just remember that you have so many good friends here and we offer our shoulders and our hearts for you to lean on.

well, now that I've been inform, I will add my prayers onto this thread.

Don't lose hope, think postive thoughts, please let us know you're ok.

Paris

A bit late to catch this thread....but still wishing you well and keeping you in my thoughts as you go through this, Whiterose.

"In the end it will be ok. If it's not ok, it's not the end." - Anonymous

Thank you to everyone who has posted your warm words of support both on this thread, and the thread in the LDR forum.

When I saw this thread yesterday, I was truly overwhelmed. You are a loving group of people. You are so good at reaching out when one of the members of our community is down. Your generosity is amazing.

For everyone who has PM'd me, I have read your PM's. I'm sorry I haven't responded, but have just needed to withdraw into myself. It's been a very difficult week for me and the best way for me to deal with things was to just go inward. But, I appreciate you taking the time to send me a note and let me know you are thinking of me.

I love all of you.

It has been a long 11 months since I submitted the petition for Remi to be able to apply for the visa. The distance has been awful and with gas prices so high, it's near impossible to make plans to travel back and forth. But, he and I have worked very hard to build what we have irregardless. We're two people who love each other, but are separated by space and consequences that sometimes seem to never end.

And just when I thought we were getting close to reaching the goal, I learned that Remi evidently has some reluctance. I realized that he was scared and nervous, and even though I love him, I am not going to force him to do something he was not ready for. Sooooo...we had a long discussion, and I told him that despite my love for him I am not sure that I can continue to live in this "limbo" and not knowing what the future holds, I decided to tell him that I thought it was best if the two of us took some time to think about things. So, for now, I have decided that we need some time apart (ha! that's a laugh, isn't it?). Anyway, we both need some more time to think (isn't that ironic?) and we will see where the road takes us. If God intends for us to be together, it will happen when, and if, the time is right.

I really don't want to get into a long discussion about the pros and cons of LDRs. For those who want to do that, maybe you can start a thread in the LDR forum to discuss that. I especially don't want to get into a discussion about Remi in particular. I realize some may be angry with him on my behalf. But, I think that because you don't know him, and he isn't here to be able to defend himself, that it would really help me best if we didn't go down that road. It would honestly only make me feel worse than I already do, which right now, doesn't seem possible.

I really cannot tell you all enough how much your support means to me. When I was at the lowest point, it meant so much to me to know that there are people all over the world who are caring for me at this moment.

You are all the best.


((((( hugs )))))

turn it over...
you know the routine, when ya think ya can't take another step...turn it over...then trust


*H's*

Kat, I am so sorry that this happened...who knows why in the scheme of things (but I would think that leaving a country, your home, for somewhere you had never been to before and not knowing when you would be back would be a daunting experience for anyone), but I agree with what you said: If God intends for us to be together, it will happen when, and if, the time is right.

Big hugs to you....

Linda

I echo Christina's sentiments. Sometimes we do not know why things go the way they do... but given enough time... everything works out for the best. You are not alone... you are so very loved.

Now that this is kind of out in the open, I would like to say Kat, you are an amazingly strong, unselfish person. I am truly honored to know you, to work with you on this site, and to be able to consider you a real friend.

I know how you agonized over your decision, and I know how difficult it was for you....and I know how sad you are that things did not turn out the way you had hoped. My heart just breaks for you.....

But, I know that you are going to be okay. And I know that all the friends you have here on the site care for you a great deal, and will be here for you.

As was said...if it was meant to be, it will be, when the time is right. ((hugs))

I will keep you in my thoughts and in my prayers.....

Katrina,

Thanks for surfacing and letting us know you are doing alright. We were worried about you.

Although what is happening to you has never happened to me exactly in the same way, I understand the sense of loss you feel. "What might have been" is so hard to walk away from in the emotional sense. I tell my IRL friends that there are days that I have to just force myself to face forward, because if I looked back at the losses I have experienced in my life, I'd be paralyzed.

It takes time to make peace with what life has handed you, others and your own choices. Lord knows, I'm still working on it myself after coming out of a 33 year marriage well over a year ago.

Life is a journey and sometimes the mountain is very hard to climb. But every now and then you do reach the top and the view from there is truly spectacular.

Your composure and civility as displayed here on our forum is truly amazing. Keep your face forward as best you can and stay strong.

G.

I am truly sorry for your pain. There are no words .....nothing that will ease this now- but know that we silently stand with you with loving thoughts to hold you up till you can stand again alone.

....but a big (((((((((((HUG))))))))))))
~phos

http://www.animationlibrary.com/Animation11/Animals/Bears_and_Pandas/Polar_bears_hug.gifKatrina.... thinking of you.

Love You, Kat (hug)

(((((((HUGS))))))))))))

An Italian heart suffers FOR you
an Italian heart suffers WHIT you

an Italian heart hopes FOR you
an Italian heart hopes WHIT you

an Italian heart prays FOR you
an Italian heart prays WITH you
....
....
but this Italian heart knows,
that you soon will have the happiness that deserves.

A BIG HUG FROM ITALY

Dang you guys, how were we blessed enough to get so many wonderful people on one little tiny spot in cyberspace....

This thread even makes my eyes teary.....

Katrina Im so sorry that things havent worked the way you'd wanted them to...and I dont really know what else to say except that we are all here behind you now; you are loved and cared for. (((((((hugs)))))))

~Suzanne

Words fail me at the moment, but know that I am thinking of you.. sending good thoughts and hugs your way.

Only way I really know to heal a broken heart is give all the pieces to God....

I think you are an amazing woman and will have a great story to tell us someday soon :)

One thing I tell myself to keep going forward is that none of us know what the future holds.


This is so true. And I want to emphasize that what we are doing at this time is giving each other space and time to think about which way to go next. That doesn't always necessarily mean a permanent end. At this moment, I have no idea which way this will go. I am only taking things one moment at a time right now.

All any of us can do is take life one moment at a time, Kat. You don't have to close any doors. You just have to take good care of yourself, and focus on YOU! Be good to yourself. Take care of everything you need to take care of for you.

My mantra is "Everything will work out exactly as it's supposed to." I'll admit, when the pain whacks me upside the head and heart, I don't always remember my mantra. Thankfully, I have friends who remind me.

You have friends......"Everything will work out exactly as it's supposed to."

((((Katrina))))

Very well said Trish...I agree...everything works out just as it's meant to be..although, at the time..we don't always understand why....down the road it all seems to make sense...sometimes it takes time....lots and lots of time.

Her love is alone in the twilight of the day, condemned with the emptiness of eternity. Her desires lost in the ashes of loneliness as he leaves her once again. The tears stream down her soft pale cheek, as she screams inside. Love eludes her with every beat of her broken heart. Her smile washed away in sorrow as the sheer silence consumes her soul. She wonders when? As she cries into the dawn of a new tomorrow...

Her love is alone in the twilight of the day, condemned with the emptiness of eternity. Her desires lost in the ashes of loneliness as he leaves her once again. The tears stream down her soft pale cheek, as she screams inside. Love eludes her with every beat of her broken heart. Her smile washed away in sorrow as the sheer silence consumes her soul. She wonders when? As she cries into the dawn of a new tomorrow...

Did you write this DaBollocks?? If you did...who would a thunk!! :)

Her love is alone in the twilight of the day, condemned with the emptiness of eternity. Her desires lost in the ashes of loneliness as he leaves her once again. The tears stream down her soft pale cheek, as she screams inside. Love eludes her with every beat of her broken heart. Her smile washed away in sorrow as the sheer silence consumes her soul. She wonders when? As she cries into the dawn of a new tomorrow...


wow. now i'm crying. that was beautiful

Thanks ladies!! I have a compilation of about 80 poems I've written. I've won a few contests here & there. Maybe I'll get published one day?

Kat, I'm so sorry you have to go through this and I think most of us can relate to where you are. Please keep in mind that this was a big step for him and sometimes fear can over rule our hearts and minds. It's a scary thing to move away from a life you've always known and venture into a new country. You are a fabulous woman and there is no doubt in my mind that Remi knows that. I'm certain that the last thing he ever wanted to do was hurt you. He's scared and that's alright, we all get scared sometimes. *big hugs* Take the time you both need and everything will work out for the best.

Very moving and insightful DaBullocks...keep trying to get published..you definitely have talent! :)

Wish I could take your pain away. Be strong and as you can see you have many friends that are here for you.

(((((((HUG))))))))

Faith

Hi Kat, now that I'm in the loop and know WHY this thread was started and I can actually post, I don't even know what to say! :(

Everything happens for a reason. You may not see it know, but looking back, you will.

As you said, this is not the end. It is just a new path. Who knows where it will lead? Maybe your paths will cross and join once again.

katrina...when i told wilko this morning what had happened, his first comment was people have no idea what its like to immigrate...the fear. everything you know, gone. it is very frightening/daunting. has nothing to do with you, but the fear can be so overwhelming....
breathe girlfriend...i know you aren't. when you want to talk, we are all here for you.
*H's*

and count another one crying over this ...

Katrina,

(((((HUGS FOR YOU)))))

Dave

As you said, this is not the end. It is just a new path. Who knows where it will lead? Maybe your paths will cross and join once again.

Well as I said, I'm not even sure it is a permanent end at this point. It's more like a "temporary truce" until things can be sorted out.

Just wanted to say thanks again for everyone's heart felt support. It means everything to me. As you know, I am a very private person. And I am not used to sharing anything about me and my relationship with you all publicly. So, I was a bit unnerved when things started to unravel and didn't know exactly what to say to you all. Although, my post in LDR the night before his interview date was really a forecast of what I sort of anticipated would happen.

But, it truly is very comforting to know that you all care about me. You're all so wonderful.

*Hugs Katrina*...you're in my thoughts and prayers.

Kat,
My thoughts and prayers are with you. You have the right feelings so all will go well.. if it is meant to be, God will take care of making it happen...

jas

Blessings, love and light to you, Whiterose. A warm supportive hug from Arizona.

Hi Kat...have been out of the loop a bit dealing with my own relationship breakup....so very sorry to hear that things didn't go to plan for you...I know you have invested an incredible amount of energy into this relationship with remi...he is obviously trying to process so many things himself...hope you have people around to give you real life hugs and shoulders to cry on...I will light a candle for you here to bring light and love to you...stay strong its not over yet...sending you warm blessings.. chez

Kat...

My heart goes out to you and Remi both. I can understand his fears and hesitaiton in uprooting his life and leaving behind what he knows to go somewhere he has never been and begin a new life. Although his love for you may be strong, it's very difficult to just immigrate to a new country and new culture when the only person you know is the one you love. You leave behind friends, family, lifestyle and have no idea when you will return.

If there could be a way for him to make a visit to the US to get a feel of what the country is like before making such a huge decision to move across the world...

I still have days when I just want to get a ticket and fly home just to walk into a grocery store that is filled to the brim with my favorite foods, to hear other americans talking and laughing and visiting in the aisles and checkout lanes. I miss my best friend, my kids, my parents...

If Hasan and I ever decide to move back to the US, he will be the one going through the culture shock, missing his family, friends, footy, foods, trams, etc...

LDR's are hard and complicated and made even more so when the two people live in different countries. Sometimes a way can be found to finally come together, but that means one person having to make the most dramatic change in his/her life by immigrating to another place.

If you were the one who was making the decision to move to Romania, it would be the same in the difficulty. You too would have concerns, fears, hesitation about leaving your lifestyle, family, work, culture behind.

I agree with your decison to give yourselves some space and time to think about your situation. I am supportive in every way I know how to be in the cyber world to you and Remi.

Peace...

i am sorry i was clueless to the nature of the post. there are some very wise women who have done the ldr relationship thing and succeeded but all with sacrafice. i have know people from romania and the conditions they have lived under, certainly a different culture and in many ways a difficult way of life.

the most precious thing right now is time to let emotions settle. alot of emotions were in the air lately and reality was out of focus. i wish that this did not hurt and i am sorry that it is.

just make little baby steps the next few days the truth will come out and you both will deal with it and move ahead, i am sorry for remi's fear and i understand it.

you are loved and treasured and important to all of us, God bless and its going to ok promise, it really will, just give yourself a little time to digest all of this.

:)

Katrina ~

Words seem so small right now, at least the ones that I've been able to find.

So, I'm sending much, much love your way.

**huggs**

SG



P.S. Tears well up in my eyes both for Katrina and because of all the love that is pouring out on this site. I have never become involved in an internet site before, and it is times like this that I know why I continue to stay involved here.

What more is there to say except…

***BIG HUG***

-*There is no such thing as a beautiful ending with out first makinng some beautiful mistakes*-

{* One can only appreciate heaven after they have walked 1,000 miles in hell*}

Be strong...we're here as a support group and hopefully you have family and friends at home to do the same. Good luck in sorting things out.

<3

Valerie

*takes a breath*

I've just read through this whole thread and although I sensed the interview hadn't gone as planned, I certainly hadn't expected this.

I'm so sorry Katrina.

I agree with what was said about emmigrating being scary. Heck, even just visiting my guy is scary for me. I don't speak the language and if I was left behind someplace I'd be completely lost.

You're a wonderful woman and I'm sure that Remi has the best of intentions, which does count for something on the positive side of this situation. He does have a lot of personal issues to consider and it's probably overwhelming at times. Maybe after some time passes and you both have a chance to gather your senses then you can begin to consider whatever alternative plans can be made.

Distance makes the heart grow fonder, it's sometimes true, but being in a LDR is really a lot of spending time alone and yearning and hoping and praying that it all works out...I know.

My heart goes out to you and I send my love and wishes for good health to you both.

Aw Katrina, I'm so sorry, I truly thought things might be finally resolved for you.
It's so hard, and you've been so strong for so long, you are very wise to step back and take a breather for a while. You'd crack for sure otherwise.
Best wishes are with you, for you, and Remi both, that you can make whatever decisions are needed.

Whiterose, I wish for you peace, love, miracles and beautiful surprises around the corner. We truly do not know what the future holds! (Thank goodness! ;))
Take care, Annie.

Thanks again to everyone who has been so kind to stop by and post a note of support. It means so much to know that people care.

I am trying to just focus on me, my daughter, and my home right now and trying to find some solitude.

Sorry for being so slow to catch on to whats going on for you two Katrina.....I am thinking of you also. Love and best wishes to you:)

Whiterose, here's what I am sending to you, and if you'll get into a quiet place and close your eyes you will feel it: A giant white angel who will enfold you in his/her wings and comfort you. He/she is there for you every night and/or every moment that you need to be held and protected and loved.

I am sending one to Remi, too. Whatever his thought processes, I am sure that, in his heart, he is hurting, too, because I believe he cares for you deeply and that it hurts him that you are hurting.

I know you already do this, Whiterose, but send him good wishes and peace and wish that whatever is best for him comes to him.

I am so sorry that you are hurting. Either he will come to you, or the universe has someone better for you. Believe that, Whiterose, and when you prayer, say it: "I cannot comprehend the meaning of what is happening to me now but I know that I am loved. I believe that I am being watched over and cared for and taken care of. Thy will be done and I trust that Thy will for me is happiness and love."

Whiterose, here's what I am sending to you, and if you'll get into a quiet place and close your eyes you will feel it: A giant white angel who will enfold you in his/her wings and comfort you. He/she is there for you every night and/or every moment that you need to be held and protected and loved.

I am sending one to Remi, too. Whatever his thought processes, I am sure that, in his heart, he is hurting, too, because I believe he cares for you deeply and that it hurts him that you are hurting.

I know you already do this, Whiterose, but send him good wishes and peace and wish that whatever is best for him comes to him.

I am so sorry that you are hurting. Either he will come to you, or the universe has someone better for you. Believe that, Whiterose, and when you prayer, say it: "I cannot comprehend the meaning of what is happening to me now but I know that I am loved. I believe that I am being watched over and cared for and taken care of. Thy will be done and I trust that Thy will for me is happiness and love."


(((((((((((((((((( Chatters ))))))))))))))))))))))

What a very moving and uplifting post! I actually do some of this. I am working on turning things over to God. I have always said from the beginning if this is meant to be, it will be.

Remi wants to talk tonight. We'll see what happens. Most important thing is that I am keeping my heart open to all the possibilities that God has in mind for me.... good or bad.

I will make it and whatever the outcome, having wonderful people like you all standing beside me lifting me up, will help me get through it.

Love to all. :)

Sorry for being so slow to catch on to whats going on for you two Katrina.....I am thinking of you also. Love and best wishes to you:)

I can only second Bella_D's thoughts, Katrina.

I wish you all the best!

Thanks Harrison. :)

Whiterose

Im one of those lurkers. Have not posted in a while but follow alot of the stories. I am sorry you are going thru a difficult time. Please try to believe that what is meant to be will be. Its not always easy, I have to remind myself to do the same thing everyday. You seem to have such a wonderful and giving heart and so much love to give. It will happen. I will say a prayer for you that happiness is in your near future.

Georgia

*steps into thread*

LOVE YA KAT!!!

*steps out*

:D

Whiterose

Im one of those lurkers. Have not posted in a while but follow alot of the stories. I am sorry you are going thru a difficult time. Please try to believe that what is meant to be will be. Its not always easy, I have to remind myself to do the same thing everyday. You seem to have such a wonderful and giving heart and so much love to give. It will happen. I will say a prayer for you that happiness is in your near future.

Georgia

Thank you for your note, Georgia. That was so thoughtful of you. I appreciate your prayer.

Every day since this mess began, I have truly worked on turning it over to God and allowing his plan to happen, whatever that is.

Remi and I just talked for over two hours and, while, I am keeping an open mind about the eventual outcome, I will say that it was a very good conversation that I think helped clear the air quite a bit.

I think that all the positive energy coming from all of you definitely helped. :)

*steps into thread*

LOVE YA KAT!!!

*steps out*

:D


Lova ya too Trace!

Hey, I just saw this. What's with hiding it in chit-chat :>

Just wanted to add my wishes for you to follow your heart and come through this time of confusion to a better place, whatever that might be.

Hugs, Katrina ....

...Remi and I just talked for over two hours and, while, I am keeping an open mind about the eventual outcome, I will say that it was a very good conversation that I think helped clear the air quite a bit....

That's such good news, Whiterose. Thank you for sharing that with us!

Whiterose, you are in my thoughts. I was happy to read that you had a good phone call!!

:)

Whiterose.

I just wanted to say that I really hope that things work out for you and Remi.

Good thoughts are flooding your way right now. :)

WhiteRose, I am happy to hear that you and Remi had a good conversation. I am praying for you and hoping that all turns out well.

Talking is good. :) I know if you and Remi are meant to be, love is stronger than fear.

My YM is from Italy and he has his days of fear. My love and I have read your story many times. When we get apprehensive, we read your story again. You give us hope. I know in my heart you deserve and will receive happiness. I have heard or read, "If we don't learn from an experience, it is a mistake. If we do learn from an experience, it is a lesson."

Light & Love
Susan

Aww Whiterose, Sorry I just found the post myself. I was kind of watching the other area for it and didnt see it and started to worry.

Im glad you directed me here to read things that are going on.

I too, send you lots of warmth and Remi too.

I really admire you stance and how you handled this, if only I had your wisdom in my almost identical situation (except its only NJ to Cali but still a very very long way for a 23 year old guy to move)

Wow, I really hope some of you rubs off on me!! (how you handled this and all)

I am 40, but I sometimes still act 20 on these issues, if only I could be more mature, more strong!

I have been so weak about Craig going back to NJ and his reasons sound almost the same as what you are saying about Remi.

I have been a mess, a whiner, a little bratty girl to him since he left and reading your reactions and how you handled it is how my heart wanted me to handle it but I just couldnt find the strength to be that way.

I dont know what to say except I really admire your strength and composure in the face of this , I know how it feels, I really do. I am still in the midst of it and trying each day to just get a grip on myself and be nice to him again.

I sometimes think that if I could just pull back from him long enough to gather myself Id be able to be stronger for him and me and the relationship but I cant seem to do that and to get that grip I need.

Its like not having a center at the moment.

Anyway, please keep us posted, I just feel that everything will be alright, I hope my feelings are true and I feel you are the most incredible person for how you handle it, I really hope I can too become stronger. You are really an inspiration to me on a day i really needed to be inspired to be stronger and better, to be more mature and focused and less selfish.

This is hard, this is really hard to be so far from the one we love, and its hard on them too. I dont know about you but I want to stand at his side and have him in my life day to day so much. And bless you for having the patience to love him through it.

I really think your awesome!!

(PS: Beautiful people draw beautiful things to them, your a very beautiful person, just wanted to say that, Im off to light a candle for me and YOU (and Remi)

Good Grief, Charlie Brown! I never go to chat....

Katrina, sometimes the worst things happen to the best people. In this case, you are definitely one of the best people here at Ageless. But this isn't the worst thing that could happen. You have your lovely daughter and your career. And what a blessing you are to so many people.

You are so wise to pull back a little. Go inside yourself and remember that you are still the same wonderful, beautiful person that you were before you met Remi. I hope you know that in your mind and in your heart. We sure know it here at Ageless.

I understand about being a private person. I am good at dishing out advice, but I was going through hell when I finally posted about my depression. The love that I received just overwhelmed me.

A joy shared is doubled and a trouble shared is cut in half.

I pray for your healing and continued wisdom in handling this.
Take care dearest heart,
Barbara

Everytime I come back to read this thread, I am overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and generosity from all of you. Even from members who I don't even know. I am truly thankful for everyone's support. Here are some hugs and kisses for you all... :)

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Katrina...I just saw this thread...dang, I need to read in chit chat more often!

Like many here, words seem so small...I'm just thankful that God's arms are BIG, and I know they are around you now since ours can't be.

I'm glad your conversation with Remi went well, there is peace in that I'm sure.
Bless you, dear one,
Karen

Oh gosh I feel totally like crap. When I first saw this thread I didn't click on it, assuming it was one of those 'answer-your-pms' threads, so pretty much passed it by. Then it eventually penetrated through the thick fog of my brain that there were an awfully lot of pages about a mere pm thread.....

Now having read it, most of it, I want you to know how much I feel for you in this situation. You are a tremendous woman Kat. I don't know if I could be half as strong and wise as you are. I wish I could just hug you in person.

You are definitely one of the kindest, nicest people I've met.... In fact, I think you were the first person to welcome me here to Ageless. You kindness to me at that time and ever since is something I'll never forget.

I wish only the best for you..... God bless you.

Thanks Karen and Lynn! I should report that Remi and I talked again last night. In fact, we even conferenced in Jody on yahoo, so she got a chance to chat with him a bit. It was all whacky nonsense, joking around with each other, but am glad she finally got to "meet" him so that you all don't think he's a figment of my imagination. :)

Anyway, the long and the short of it is, that things are better now. I am keeping my mind wide open to all the possibilities of how this will go, but I think we have made it through the rough patch and that things will soon be moving forward again.

Remi is saying he's ready. However, I have decided that because of this roller coaster ride being so unpredictable at times regarding his visa, I am not going to post anymore threads about getting the visa until it's all completed. I'll just surprise everyone when the time finally comes. :p

While it was a very emotional time for me, I'm glad we had this experience, because unlike couples who are together in the flesh, we don't have a lot of opportunities to actually have disagreements. And I actually think it's good to have them now so that we can learn even more about each other.

So, again, thank you to everybody. I truly believe that your support sent positive energy my way, which made me feel very loved and appreciated. That meant alot to me. I am not one to ask for advice or support, but you all opened up your arms to me at a time when I needed it most and I never even asked for anything. You're wonderful.

THANK YOU EVERYONE and THANK YOU MARCY for starting this thread!

((((Kat)))) I'm so happy to hear you sounding happy!

I just saw your last post Kat.


I did chat with Kat and Remi, and we had a lot of fun. Although I do have to say, Kat, he is a little stingy with the cake. Sheesh!

I was honored to meet him and to share that with him and Kat, and we all agreed that sometime in the future we would all meet and go out for a celebration dinner..... :)

Awesome to hear there is a little light shining at the end of that tunnel! :)

I did chat with Kat and Remi, and we had a lot of fun. Although I do have to say, Kat, he is a little stingy with the cake. Sheesh!

I thought I'd share some excerpts from our "cake" conversation with Remi so that everyone can have a glimpse of what my life is like with him. He truly is a clown, always making me laugh. This has been edited to remove "non-cake related" parts of the conversation. By the way, Remi calls me Kitten.....

Jody (7/28/2005 9:44:50 PM): What shall we do to celebrate your wedding?
Kat (7/28/2005 9:44:57 PM): eat some cake!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:11 PM): cake?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:12 PM): where ?
Jody (7/28/2005 9:45:17 PM): CAKE! Wedding cake!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:23 PM): when ?
Kat (7/28/2005 9:45:24 PM): Jody asked us what we should do to celebrate our wedding
Jody (7/28/2005 9:45:24 PM): mmmmmmmmmm, cake
Kat (7/28/2005 9:45:32 PM): First we have to have one.. a wedding that is.
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:42 PM): can we have a cake before?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:45 PM): about..now?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:51 PM): a big one?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:55 PM): pleeeeeeease
Remi (7/28/2005 9:45:57 PM): ok
Jody (7/28/2005 9:46:00 PM): I think once you get here, you can have cake whenever you want!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:46:05 PM): give me the cake and u start thinking
Kat (7/28/2005 9:46:17 PM): how about a chocolate wedding cake, Remi?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:46:34 PM): umm too heavy
Jody (7/28/2005 9:46:41 PM): mmmmmm...chocolate!

Then we were playing with smileys and Jody picked one that was drooling....The smilies aren't showing up here after being copied from yahoo....Where there are blanks, that's where there were smilies. Anyway, the conversation veered back to cake again. :)

Jody (7/28/2005 9:50:49 PM): This is Jody
Jody (7/28/2005 9:50:54 PM): no wait...LOL
Kat (7/28/2005 9:50:54 PM): lol
Remi (7/28/2005 9:50:56 PM): why jody ?
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:00 PM): r u hungry ?
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:01 PM): you hungry jody?
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:03 PM): or thirsty?
Jody (7/28/2005 9:51:04 PM): This is Jody
Jody (7/28/2005 9:51:12 PM): Noooo..I picked the wrong smiley. LOL
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:14 PM): maybe she is thinking at our cake
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:20 PM): uummm nope
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:24 PM): MY CAKE!!!
Jody (7/28/2005 9:51:27 PM): Oh, I can't wait to come...Can't wait to meet you. So excited!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:30 PM): YOUR cake???!!!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:35 PM): yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:36 PM):
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:38 PM): all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:40 PM): OUR cake
Jody (7/28/2005 9:51:47 PM): what about me? I like cake!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:51:48 PM): Actually, we'll both probably have to fight with Hannah for it
Remi (7/28/2005 9:51:49 PM): MINE!!!!!!!!!!
Jody (7/28/2005 9:51:59 PM): cake
Remi (7/28/2005 9:52:00 PM): don`t care!!!!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:52:00 PM): lol
Kat (7/28/2005 9:52:09 PM): she won't share with you Remi
Kat (7/28/2005 9:52:13 PM): Jody, we'll give you a slice
Remi (7/28/2005 9:52:13 PM): no
Jody (7/28/2005 9:52:21 PM): Okay Kat, we will let Remi have ALL the cake...
Remi (7/28/2005 9:52:29 PM): the right sentence is: i won`t share the cake with Hannah!!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:00 PM): I`M NOT GIVING ANY SLICE TO ANYONE
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:02 PM): AND U KITTEN
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:08 PM): START MAKING PLANS WITH UR OWN CAKE
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:10 PM): NOT WITH MINE
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:17 PM): whoops
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:18 PM): caps...
Kat (7/28/2005 9:53:29 PM): ok.. if that's how it is, then YOU better find your own bed to sleep in on our HONEYMOON
Kat (7/28/2005 9:53:38 PM):
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:39 PM): ok
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:47 PM): i`ll sleep in a cake factory!!!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:53:53 PM): WHATEVER!
Remi (7/28/2005 9:53:55 PM):
Kat (7/28/2005 9:54:09 PM): you'll be mighty lonely sleeping ALONE in that cake factory
Remi (7/28/2005 9:54:16 PM): nooooo
Kat (7/28/2005 9:54:27 PM): oh yesssssssssssssss
Kat (7/28/2005 9:54:46 PM):
Remi (7/28/2005 9:54:47 PM): i`ll sleep with cakes....big cakes...chocolate cakes, fruits cakes
Remi (7/28/2005 9:54:59 PM): all around me only cakes!!!!!!!!
Kat (7/28/2005 9:55:03 PM): oh sure... cakes are more important than me.
Remi (7/28/2005 9:55:29 PM): well..sometimes i have to eat
Remi (7/28/2005 9:55:31 PM):
Kat (7/28/2005 9:55:32 PM): lol
Kat (7/28/2005 9:55:41 PM): maybe i'll bake you a cake when you arrive
Remi (7/28/2005 9:55:53 PM): jody is gone after some cake ...
Kat (7/28/2005 9:55:56 PM): or i'll have mom make her famous chocolate bon bon cake. my favorite
Remi (7/28/2005 9:55:59 PM): maybe ?????????
Kat (7/28/2005 9:56:02 PM): yeah, i think she got booted again

And that's where we ended it. As you can see, Remi's quite a nut and definitely loves to eat. :p

OMG that's hilarious! LOL.... we should all go in together and send him a HUGE cake right to his door. I'd love to see his face!

…the long and the short of it is, that things are better now. I am keeping my mind wide open to all the possibilities of how this will go, but I think we have made it through the rough patch and that things will soon be moving forward again…

…While it was a very emotional time for me, I'm glad we had this experience, because unlike couples who are together in the flesh, we don't have a lot of opportunities to actually have disagreements. And I actually think it's good to have them now so that we can learn even more about each other.


I'm so happy for you Whiterose! It's good to hear things are looking up, and I'm glad to see you've gained something from the experience.

All the best to you and Remi. :)

Lynn, I think that if this wedding ever does take place, I am gonna surprise Remi by having two wedding cakes. One that has the traditional bride and groom on it and one marked with his name on top so he can have his own cake. :rolleyes:

There ya go! On its own special table. Gotta take pictures of that!! :D

Kat I'm sorry I haven't replied earlier.....

I know you have been going thru some hard stuff with this lately... You know I was alway hoping for your happiness in all this no matter what it is.... I know it's hard to be so far away from the person you love I remember our conversations!!!

Seems like you guys are talking and taking things slowly which is great... BTW I'm glad remi wasn't talkin to me about cake LOL... My little bostonian attitude may come out I LOVE CAKE lol...

[sniff sniff sniff] ... cake? ..... [sniff sniff sniff] :D

Sorry that that I haven't replied earlier, but things has/are a bit buzy these days.
I hope that things will work out for the two of you and that you will become as happy as you deserve to be!!! I think that you are one of the most wonderful women I have ever known!!!

Lots of love from
Aina

That was great Kat! You know the hardest thing about these relationships, besides the distance and the age and everything else (lol) is that we don't always get to have a witness to the joy we feel with our YM! Thankyou so much for sharing and if ya ever need to talk, you know where we live!