Meeting women at a museum

I'm wondering if a museum is a good place to meet women. When I was at Indiana University, everyone said that the art museum was the place to pick up women. The problem was the ladies at the art museum always seemed morose, frigid, and overly introspective, and most of the time I could not muster the courage to ask them out.

Since I have my weekends off now with my new job, I'm thinking about travelling up to Chicago on a regular basis to hang out at some of the museums. I figure that if I met a woman at a history museum, she would probably be more upbeat and active than the ones I met at the art museum. Unfortunatley, the only women that I've come across who are into history (with one exception) tend to be left-wing radical feminist types, which are not my type.

the ladies at the art museum always seemed morose, frigid, and overly introspective, and most of the time I could not muster the courage to ask them out.
I figure that if I met a woman at a history museum, she would probably be more upbeat and active than the ones I met at the art museum. Unfortunatley, the only women that I've come across who are into history (with one exception) tend to be left-wing radical feminist types, which are not my type.

Mark, I think the museum is a great idea. I do think, however, that you should consider being more open minded and hold off on the pre-judging and stereotyping women when you're meeting them in these settings. Perhaps if you HAD mustered the courage to talk to some of the women at the art museum, you would have found that they were not all "morose, frigid, and overly introspective" And I'm sure not every woman visiting a history museum is a "left-wing radical feminist type"

I am neither of those and I have been to both art museums AND history museums! :)

Mark, I can't speak for all women, and can only speak for myself, so take this for what it's worth. But, when I was single and went to any kind of museum, whether it was art, history, or science, I wasn't going there with the intention of being picked up. I was there to view what was on display at the museum. So, in other words, for people like me who may have seemed morose or frigid :), perhaps we are just more interested in the exhibit than in meeting someone there.

I agree with Star... try not to form a snap judgment about someone until you've had the chance to get to know them.

How about if you search for online message boards for people interested in history? Maybe that would be a good place to begin to find someone? Just a thought.

.... Unfortunatley, the only women that I've come across who are into history (with one exception) tend to be left-wing radical feminist types, which are not my type.

lol I feel sorry for ya, Mark, 'cause a huge portion of what I'll call quality women fits into that category. You just may not realize it yet.

Intelligent American women are almost all liberal AND feminist to varying degrees. I'll try to explain:

The meaning of "left-wing" is very subjective, but most women support programs that are stereotypically associated with liberalism or the "left-wing", such as Social Security or AFDC. The reason should be obvious: most women are wage-earning, child-bearers and caregivers. Any program that directly assists those functions is something they overwhelmingly support.

And if you believe that women deserve the right to vote, the right to own property, and the right to enter the professions and skilled trades, and that they deserve equality with men in all civil rights, then you are a feminist.

That makes me a feminist, and I'm guessing the same applies to Whiterose, Star, and hopefully Mark as well. ;)

So, you may want to rethink your labeling of women, Mark, lest you be on lonely street for a looooooooooooooong time.

Great post, Harrison!

Unfortunately, Mark is by no means alone when it comes to stereotyping women. And i'm sure that alot of women stereotype men. And many people in general stereotype other people based on looks, race, religion, sex, politics, income level, job type....the list goes on and on.

One of the reasons I don't date alot is that I frequently get asked out by very shallow, unintelligent men who make the assumption that I am an airheaded bimbo simply because I have large breasts! And intelligent men often DON'T ask me out because they stereotype me in the same way.

And what about blonde women? (I'm not-can't imagine how much I'd get stereotyped if I was blonde AND had big breasts! Poor Pamela Anderson!) All you have to do is open your email to get the latest "dumb blonde" joke. Yet I know a number of highly intelligent women who just happen to be blonde. Some of them even naturally so!

Intelligent American women are almost all liberal AND feminist to varying degrees. I'll try to explain:

The meaning of "left-wing" is very subjective, but most women support programs that are stereotypically associated with liberalism or the "left-wing", such as Social Security or AFDC. The reason should be obvious: most women are wage-earning, child-bearers and caregivers. Any program that directly assists those functions is something they overwhelmingly support.
There's nothing inherently wrong with being liberal. I myself am liberal on a number of issues. I also believe in gender equality. Many liberal women are free-thinking, logical, and intelligent, but the vast majority are emotional and group-oriented; they are very concerned with fitting in and doing what is perceived as the right thing by the group. These women are inherently easily impressionable and have a tendency to "go with the flow" rather than stand apart and think for themselves. The same can be said of many conservative women.

I see. Well it sounds as if you have a problem with women who are overly emotional and lack independent critical-thinking skills. That's a little different from the tone of your first post, and more specific.

Well not trying to stereotype, but it is widely believed that women are more emotional than men, so since Mark is a self-proclaimed bi-sexual, maybe what he really needs is a relationship with a man instead of a woman.

Although I don't know much about this subject myself, I have a friend who swears that women of certain Astrological signs are more emotional than others. She says there are masculine signs and feminine signs and that the feminine signs are more emotional people, whether they be male or female. The masculine signs are (just googled it lol) Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius and Aquarius.

According to this theory, these signs would tend to be less emotional than the feminine signs which are Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces.

I don't know if there's anything to this, but I'm an Aquarius and do tend to be less emotional than alot of women I know.

Being a free thinker, I'm sure Mark will consider many different types of possibilities.

LOL, I was an art historian before I was what I am now. I'm more of a libertarian than a classic liberal, I would say I fit Harrison's definition of feminist. I'm not a caregiver or a childbearer but I understand those who base their compassionate viewpoints on such experiences.

One thing is for sure, although I am passionate about my views, this Pisces wouldn't ever be mistaken for being "emotional" in the usual sense, and has ALWAYS been an independent thinker (in fact taught "critical thinking" at the college level). Always been blonde too, although it's darkened a good deal over time, and err...well developed the way star is. Yeah...there have been some dumb assumptions but I try to keep that to a minimum by dressing carefully. :P

It is just amusing what some people believe about women, or about anyone really, when they haven't experience to go on. That's what stereotypes are "for."

In any case I'm with whiterose...getting "picked up" was never something I myself aimed to be and would personally have felt it an intrusion on my purpose (not to mention that the phrase suggests something less savory than getting "asked out" but maybe for some there's no distinction). Not all women feel that way of course, some are quite flattered by that type of thing. Unless there's truly something in common though, it's not much different from choosing someone based on her looks in a bar or other venue.

Hi Mark!! Hey I think that sounds like a great idea!!! Follow your intuition on this one! Maybe you won't meet her at first but...it might lead to something...you know how that works! :)P.S. Congrats on the new job!

The problem was the ladies at the art museum always seemed morose, frigid, and overly introspective, and most of the time I could not muster the courage to ask them out.



hmmmm, an art museum is a place where you'll usually find me spending hours. Am I morose, frigid and overly introspectve ?? I think not

Am I a radical feminist ? no. A leftist ? certainly

so definitely, don't come near me Mark, I also bite :mad:

hmmmm, an art museum is a place where you'll usually find me spending hours. Am I morose, frigid and overly introspectve ?? I think not

Am I a radical feminist ? no. A leftist ? certainly

so definitely, don't come near me Mark, I also bite :mad:

But, a very sexy bite, I imagine. :)

Err, I'm married. Not me!

I hear loucine is single. Maybe you two should hook up.

men ! :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Mark
"The problem was the ladies at the art museum always seemed morose, frigid, and overly introspective, and most of the time I could not muster the courage to ask them out."

Hmmm..let's see, don't think I'm frigid..I like to call it "class"..don't think I'm overly introspective...I like to call it "intelligence" and don't think I'm morose, I like to call it "reserved"...guess it all depends on the way you look at things now doesn't it Mark?? :)

But, a very sexy bite, I imagine. :)

depends on the circumstance :D