Talkin' bout that Gangsta Love!

Ladies, could you go out with, and love, a criminal?

By "criminal," I mean someone who is nice, pleasant and caring, but just happens to make his money illegally. Someone who you have suspicions about within 6 months of the first date.

He could be a hard "brutha from the 'hood" like 50 Cent in his younger days...

Or he could be a smooth, dapper "professional-type" like Ken Lay, the ex-CEO of Enron....

Or like Randy "Duke" Cunningham, the decorated Vietnam veteran and Republican congressman from San Diego, who just tearfully confessed to being guilty of taking $2.4 million worth of bribes from defense contractors.

The main point, however, is that only through his criminal activities does he have "the skills to pay the bills." ;)

What prompted this question is that whenever I see previously "high and mighty" men from the worlds of business and politics walking into court, they usually have an attractive lady on their arm, and sometimes quite a foxy OW at that. :)

Please take a totally confidential poll.

Can't even imagine being with someone who has killed a chicken or stolen a pack of cigarettes.

edit: a pack of cigarettes in the past, maaaybe... but not the chicken !! :eek:

:) I find myself very attracted to Winona Ryder. :p

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Can't even imagine being with someone who has killed a chicken or stolen a pack of cigarettes.

My experience from attending uni in the USA, is that if you are a handsome, popular guy who makes money dealing a little dope on the side, you will have no problems finding a nice girlfriend. :D

Some of the guys I went to school with got expelled from university for this reason.

How embarassing! I wonder what happened to them and what they told their parents.

My experience from attending uni in the USA, is that if you are a handsome, popular guy who makes money dealing a little dope on the side, you will have no problems finding a nice girlfriend. :D

Some of the guys I went to school with got expelled from university for this reason.

How embarassing! I wonder what happened to them and what they told their parents.

I've never even bought any dope, can you imagine ?? I've always been offered some
:D

:) I find myself very attracted to Winona Ryder. :p

I confess to not getting the joke, Flanker! Was Winona --- Oh, I remember now! It was shoplifting, wasn't it? :D

I voted for never...

but I mean if someone got busted with pot at 19 or stole something years and years ago, I wouldn't really count that against them...but any current criminal acts or any record or a serious crime like killing or assulting, that would be a big fat no no in my book,

I've never even bought any dope, can you imagine ?? I've always been offered some
:D

Yes, the dope culture is widespread in the middle classes and upper classes of the USA. I imagine it's the same in Europe.

Bourgeois hypocrisy! That's partly why I asked the question. Just curious to see how many ladies would be honest enough to admit something shameful. :D

Personally, I think I might date a woman who was doing something illegal, but not for long. I'd have to believe that she was intelligent and far too smart to be doing something so wrong --- like a doctor illegally writing painkiller prescriptions, for example.

Anyone remember Rush Limbaugh and his addiction? :p

Yes Harrison,

I remember pill-popping saga of virtuous Rush Limbaugh. He was begging for the investigators to be a bit liberal. Irony at its best?

Winona Ryder was convicted of shoplifting in the state of California. She did community service as part of her sentence.

LOL Harrison, I was just saying that I have always been offered MY dope, never had to buy it. I'm from Lebanon, remember ? :D But that was more than 15 years ago.

Where I grew up, we had a lot of Cholos...and I admit that for some reason I found them handsome! And still today...especially the Latin American guys, (But I got love for all races of course.) they are so sweet to the ladies!! They have that magnetism...you know? (OK I know I'm in the minority!) The crime aspect of course is a total bummer and I am not behind it 100% that goes without saying. It’s just their style I find exciting.

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[COLOR=Magenta]Where I grew up, we had a lot of Cholos...and I admit that for some reason I found them handsome! And still today...especially the Latin American guys, (But I got love for all races of course.) they are so sweet to the ladies!! They have that magnetism...you know?...

Skater, you hot l'il Mamacita! :D

(But I got love for all races of course.)

For the sake of Mark, I hope that includes white men as well. :)

Skater, you hot l'il Mamacita! :D

Gracias mijo! :rolleyes: Check out some interesting definitions of Cholo!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cholo

For the sake of Mark, I hope that includes white men as well. :)

I'm Mark's biggest fan! :)

Gracias mijo! :rolleyes: Check out some interesting definitions of Cholo!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cholo

Nice, mija! ;)

I am sooo glad for the definition of cholo! I have never heard that term! :D

I think a lot of it is that women are attacted to power...I know I am...and danger.

I have no idea if i'd date a criminal...although I have a lot of friends who have no problem with it. lol.

Nadine.

Adriana Cabrera-Garcia
excerpt from "Peace In The Spirit"

...Take a look at the streets of san jo
Wake up to the issue
that our children's yearn to grow
don't have a home to call their own
realized we are empowered to heal
unless you find me in this flow
I walk the streets to find
my inner spirit in here
Now I move on with my head held high
Like a cholo once told me
Don't let no one get you down
acknowledging the Great four spirits

take the time to smile to the neighbor
even when the fear is in your heart
it is only a part of this society's nature
challenge operational beliefs
do away with an old colonizations
start the healing process
and make a positive investment
it will take a lifetime of years
and it begins with human medicine...

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I am sooo glad for the definition of cholo! I have never heard that term! :D

I think a lot of it is that women are attacted to power...I know I am...and danger.

I have no idea if i'd date a criminal...although I have a lot of friends who have no problem with it. lol.

Nadine.

Thanks for the honesty there, Nadine!

Haha! My li'l sister had a high-school buddy who was dating a small-time crack dealer. We went to a school with plenty of roughneck, thuggin' types.

I'm Mark's biggest fan! :)

I thought you were MY biggest fan :D

When I was younger, Yep, I probably would have, depending on what kind of crime it was. I do not agree with all of our laws. If it involved killing, bullying, or hurting others...then absolutely No. If it was something that could put him into jail for more than 30 days, then `no' to that too.

Now, well I don't have to worry about that as Stu is a law abiding citizen.

skater, who is that guy, he looks like adam.... that was weird, are we attracted to the same look? anyway, adam is 1/2 puerto rican maybe thats it.

i have many pictures but dont know how to post them, take care. rina

I admit that I somewhat like "bad boys", but criminals are a different story. My first husband was busted for possession of mj and served 30 days, I was pregnant with our daughter at the time. When she was 5 weeks old, I caught him selling bags of pot from the basement of our house- I divorced him.

In my job as a dispatcher/jail matron I saw all kinds of criminals, some of them very handsome, some of them very "nice" ..... but these seemingly nice guys had some horrible rap sheets which I was able to see....It's scary to think that these guys can be so "normal" sounding and if I hadn't been in a position to know what they had done, I could have been caught up in their "smooth talking ways". I am still a police dispatcher so could not ever knowingly go with a felon-I would lose my job.


As for power and wealth- can't buy love! I look at some of the wealthy men with eye candy on their arms and just want to puke! They are criminals regardless of how much money and power-and how many of them stole from their employees in a time of need.....BLECH!! Give my a poor man with integrity any day.

I thought you were MY biggest fan

No baby...you are my honey you know this...now stop acting jealous!!! :p :D ;)

skater, who is that guy, he looks like adam.... that was weird, are we attracted to the same look? anyway, adam is 1/2 puerto rican maybe thats it.

i have many pictures but dont know how to post them, take care. rina

Hey Rina! :) The first guy is rapper Paul Wall, the second two guys together are the rap/banda group called Akwid, they mix traditional mexican music with rap. Wow...you are sooooo lucky my dear!! We do have the same taste! :D I could help you with posting pictures...let me go look for the links...be right back...(xoxoxoxo)

skater, who is that guy, he looks like adam.... that was weird, are we attracted to the same look? anyway, adam is 1/2 puerto rican maybe thats it.

i have many pictures but dont know how to post them, take care. rina

ok try this and if you have any questions pm or email me! :)
http://www.agelesslove.com/boards/showthread.php?t=21842

I too have always been attracted to the "bad guys" ...hehe :o . I dunno, its not the way they look as much as a certain charisma they have-you know a kind of appeal that just draws me to them. Also, they usually carry themselves differently. Kinda-you know- I'M Bad-kinda thing. I married a "bad guy". Naw, just kiddin'. He dont do tooooo many "bad" things now. haha. He's not a criminal, just got the mmmm...magnetism of a bad boy.

Skater - when I met Jeremy he had a shaved head:

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He has lots of tats - including Old English lettering on his neck. Wore baggy clothes and often a bandana wrapping his head.

He is Native American, but his step mom is Puerto Rican, so he knows some Spanish. But it sure makes him look like a cholos! LOL! :eek:

Well, he is an ex-gang member - nicknamed "Priest." But the worst thing he has going now is a warrant for an outstanding driving violation. I couldn't be with him if he was still involved in the gang or doing anything illegal and I've told him that.

...He is Native American, but his step mom is Puerto Rican, so he knows some Spanish. But it sure makes him look like a cholo! LOL! :eek:

Which, by association, coulda made you a chola --- if you wanted to go there!

Orale, mija! ;) :D

Here's one experience about peddling a little dope on the side. Girl we grew up with a few years younger than us was shacked up with this homey who sold weed. They just had a kid together. Maybe 10 mos old. Well, one night they're sitting in their house watching TV with the baby in the next to them on the couch and BAM!! The door gets kicked open it's 2 rival dope peddlers sportin' .40 cal's they bust about 10 rounds into him killing him on the spot. And then pop one into the girl we grew up with just to make sure she keeps her mouth shut!! Baby has no father now and the girl is too afraid to even leave home. Moral of the story? Legalize dope.

:eek: Gangsta love ain't no joke, dawg! :eek:

F'sho!

The man Ive been seeing awhile now is an ex-Hells Angel. All he says is he's done some pretty bad things in his life. While an Angel, he was in a club within the club that took care of "problems" Hes got the tats and still rides a "monster" HD (ooooooooh which I love) but goes to church now once, even sometimes, twice in a week. Sometimes I wonder how much bad boy is still left over though....we were out to lunch with my kids when some street punk who was drunk tried beggin for cigs from my 15 year old son. CJ had a few "words" and last we saw the guy was backing up real fast. He deffo has the total bad boy look too, tats, HUMONGOUS arms (hes a general contractor), a braid down to his butt, and is always in his leather chaps and vest. What a breath of fresh air though to be with someone who is completely honest and forthright, under ALL circumstances.


I love the fact that he is a bad boy gone good. Very much a departing factor of my previous relationship with a "good guy" who turned out to be nothing more then a coward and a liar.

[QUOTE=Kristin]Skater - when I met Jeremy he had a shaved head:

He has lots of tats - including Old English lettering on his neck. Wore baggy clothes and often a bandana wrapping his head.

He is Native American, but his step mom is Puerto Rican, so he knows some Spanish. But it sure makes him look like a cholos!

Well, he is an ex-gang member - nicknamed "Priest."

*skatergirl wipes drool from the corner of her mouth*

(OK that was gross! Sorry! :D) Anyway...
You're SO lucky! I would love to date someone like that that was no longer involved like Jeremy. He sounds like a great guy! :)

The man Ive been seeing awhile now is an ex-Hells Angel. All he says is he's done some pretty bad things in his life. While an Angel, he was in a club within the club that took care of "problems" Hes got the tats and still rides a "monster" HD (ooooooooh which I love) but goes to church now once, even sometimes, twice in a week. Sometimes I wonder how much bad boy is still left over though....we were out to lunch with my kids when some street punk who was drunk tried beggin for cigs from my 15 year old son. CJ had a few "words" and last we saw the guy was backing up real fast. He deffo has the total bad boy look too, tats, HUMONGOUS arms (hes a general contractor), a braid down to his butt, and is always in his leather chaps and vest. What a breath of fresh air though to be with someone who is completely honest and forthright, under ALL circumstances.


I love the fact that he is a bad boy gone good. Very much a departing factor of my previous relationship with a "good guy" who turned out to be nothing more then a coward and a liar.
He sounds like a sweetheart!! You are so lucky too!

I've been telling my man he should quit his day jobs and start takin' book and I'll run his slips. We got people that would call us with minimal "enforcement."

He'd be a good bookie cuz he's got good friends. Then he can be my stay at home dad without drawing he pension out at 100% (he could go down to like 60% considering our sizeable age gap.)

adam is so far from a bad boy, i am more of a bad boy than he is, he just looks the part with the tattoo's and i suppose the bad boy "look" i thought it was a just a young guy's look, see what i know, i smile at guys who remind me of him, not flirty way but when they dont see me. i learned from him that appearances are decieving. the ones who look all cleaned up and smug can be the biggest losers and the guy's like adam look dangerous but in truth are hero's.

give me a guy who can put others BEFORE himself and not a immature bad boy.......please.

guys who break the law suck, one way or another they are gonna bring you down with them, bad guys who think they are entitled to break the law dont get the big picture, without a doubt they are selfish buggers.

i respect men who stand on their own two feet and not from the sorrow of others.

adam is so far from a bad boy, i am more of a bad boy than he is, he just looks the part with the tattoo's and i suppose the bad boy "look" i thought it was a just a young guy's look, see what i know, i smile at guys who remind me of him, not flirty way but when they dont see me. i learned from him that appearances are decieving. the ones who look all cleaned up and smug can be the biggest losers and the guy's like adam look dangerous but in truth are hero's.

give me a guy who can put others BEFORE himself and not a immature bad boy.......please.

guys who break the law suck, one way or another they are gonna bring you down with them, bad guys who think they are entitled to break the law dont get the big picture, without a doubt they are selfish buggers.

i respect men who stand on their own two feet and not from the sorrow of others.
Very inspiring Rina and I totally agree!

I couldn't resist!!
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hey skater... i was married before to a "reformed" bad boy.... all he did was hid it from me but he was still doing the same old, same old... sure it took some time and he did behave for a few years but then secretive stuff started happening, i think that is why i was so devastated, i thought that part of his past was over. i thought since it was drug related that everyone had their drug experience and he was the unlucky one who got caught.

WRONGO!

i felt "bad" for him and wanted to help him in anyway i could, i cosigned him getting a state regulated license because he was a felon, i truly 100% believed he was reformed, specially sence he was a Christian youth minister when i met him.... well, it was probably something he aspired to be and i think he really tryed to reform but he sure didnt in the long run.

i went thru hell and back with his immoralities in life, he hurt me like no one before him and certainly not after him, bad boys may look cute but they are nothing even close to the heartache they can bring.

:DSorry Harrison, I'm getting carried away!!!

LOL That's okay, mija! :)

hey skater... i was married before to a "reformed" bad boy.... all he did was hid it from me but he was still doing the same old, same old... sure it took some time and he did behave for a few years but then secretive stuff started happening, i think that is why i was so devastated, i thought that part of his past was over. i thought since it was drug related that everyone had their drug experience and he was the unlucky one who got caught.

WRONGO!

i felt "bad" for him and wanted to help him in anyway i could, i cosigned him getting a state regulated license because he was a felon, i truly 100% believed he was reformed, specially sence he was a Christian youth minister when i met him.... well, it was probably something he aspired to be and i think he really tryed to reform but he sure didnt in the long run.

i went thru hell and back with his immoralities in life, he hurt me like no one before him and certainly not after him, bad boys may look cute but they are nothing even close to the heartache they can bring.

Rina, I know with all of my heart what you are saying...the one that I've been struggling to end it with is a reformed bad boy/gangster...and I can relate to what you're saying about no one has ever hurt you like that because believe me he has hurt me and I have no one to blame but myself. I was so caught up in the thrill and excitement of being with him that it took me a minute to figure out that at this point I am being used. In the beginning it was magic...but I kept breaking it off because, believe it or not, I wanted to do the Lord's will. He would come back after some time would pass and I would get caught up in the excitement of it all BUT this is the last time! I am still young and I want to find someone like your Adam who excites me but believes in God. My current guy (Or whatever you want to call him...) get's freaked out when I mention God...I could go on. I am finally ready to let him go! :)

:D

LOL That's okay, mija!

I'll try hard to be good! ;) :p

the ones who look all cleaned up and smug can be the biggest losers and the guy's like adam look dangerous but in truth are hero's.

give me a guy who can put others BEFORE himself and not a immature bad boy.......please.

That sounds like Jeremy. He kept going broke because he was giving money to and covering rent for his sister, her kid and bf, his younger brother and a couple with two kids who were his sister's friends! I was so relieved when he moved out of there. I told him he had himself and his daughter to look out for and those others were all grown ups and it was time that they took care of themselves!

He's the biggest sweetheart and I know he's away from the old gang stuff. He had been for a couple of years before we met - since his kid was born. He moved to the country to get away from it.