To the YM, a Q to u all

I know there are plenty of young men on this agelesslove .com that we have never heard from. My question to you all....... being a ym, tell your age and the ages of a woman that you would be with, why and what has been your most memorable experiance in being with a woman in that age range you speak of? What has lead you to choose a woman that is older in the first place? And what do you find that keeps you there? Just curious:confused:

Some people said that it could probably be the character of the Y/M like usually he is a loner, know his mother for a short period fo time..etc.I don't believe those crap.I am intersted in their sturdiness i mean how the way they carry themselves.Often younger women my age don't know what they want.They either tell me to decide or worse want me to decide even if they dislike it.O/M too seems much more secure and taking things easy.they are more tactical in terms of consideration of the other party while i encourage women to speak out.I also like the way the don't really go to the 'crowd' or 'in' thing now like in fashion in my area is long straight hair, but i kinda like the women who has here own personality(in this case short hair).They also dare to try it with me.......and i must say seems more livelier and carries well in conversation(they understood every literature stuff i talked).My
'interest' is 11 years older than me and i won't go out with anyone who is not older than me by 10 years.Oh yeah, they too could take my ego away and wouldn't throw tantrums at me while sometimes let me see the reality.By the way Lorena, i just post my progress, check it out, now that is experience.So instead of being considered a loner or mama's boy i wouldn't say i'm that, rather i find it much more mentally challenging and amusing by the thinking of O/M.BTW, they say losers choose older women, fret not coz this Y/M has already 'aced' in life(no arrogance intended, sorry)

p.s:Lorena, your e-mail doesn't seem to be working.

Hey thanks for your response, I'll surely look up your other post to see your progress :)I haven't been able to connect to the message boards, somehow since I changed internets, I just can't get in. As far as my e-mail... don't know what is going on there because I have adjusted it,ummm? This post shows you only responding when in fact there has been others... weird huh? Mucho gracias again:)

My response seemed to disappear into the inter-netherworld so I'll do it again.

I'm 26 and the woman I was/am interested in is 44. We've known each other for a few years now and she's been well aware of my interest in her. I've never really had a preference for OW before...but I was struck by her strength, independence, decisiveness and compassion (not to mention her beautiful smile).

It's hard to explain but even though the qualities I listed above can be found in women of any age...I think her life experience in general is one of the things I like about her most. Admittedly, I most likely would've hated the person she was ten years ago but the woman she has become through time is the woman I have always sought but has always eluded me. She and I understand each other incredibly well, it's almost like telepathy. But...she has a problem dating anyone that is closer to her daughter's age than her own. (Her daughter is 22).

She recently started seeing someone who is 8 years younger than her and apparently is like an older version of me...so she doesn't really have a problem with younger guys, she just thinks that 35 or so is the beginning of adult life. I don't necessarily agree with that but even so, we remain best friends and I think she was my first real love.

Well thankyou Mightyred, that is mighty generous of you to take the time to re-do your input. Thanks again:)

Originally posted by Lorena
I know there are plenty of young men on this agelesslove .com that we have never heard from. My question to you all....... being a ym, tell your age and the ages of a woman that you would be with, why and what has been your most memorable experiance in being with a woman in that age range you speak of? What has lead you to choose a woman that is older in the first place? And what do you find that keeps you there? Just curious:confused:

Hi I am new here.

I am currently 23 years old and dating a beautiful woman who is 44, we met at a shopping mall. I find that she is so nice and that we get along so well. Her age is just a number to me, it does not matter. I seem to attract alot of older women I guess, but we enjoy eachother. I have been with her for about 4 months!

Good luck on your relationship with your beautiful woman. Perhaps older women find you attactive because your a real gentleman.;)

Perhaps ;), but I really cannot identify with the women/girls my age these days. No offense, but the ones I see/know are not classy.

On behalf of all us older women, I thank you for the compliment, Kelby. Gentlemen and classy women always seem to go together, don't they, no matter what they are wearing or what kind of music they are dancing to? Now that you have made me think about it, Kelby and Lorena, it seems that most of the OW/YM couples here on Ageless are made up of gentlemen and classy ladies.

Patricia

I agree, you couldn't of said it any better :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

hello-
i am 26 yr old man, i have dated older women in every decade...30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's....
i prefer women much older than me....i have dated more women in their 50's and 60's, although i would like to date women more in their 70's....
although it seems like i have dated a lot of women, i haven;t really...i started dating at 18, so throughout 8 years, i have had relationships with about 10 women..
it surprises me how opposite it is with older men/younger women....older men are so much more receptive to a younger woman flirting with them....but older women to me are more hesitant, and much harder to find....i think older men are easy, and older women are not...
i am hugely attrated to women in their 60's and 70's(not very much to younger than 50) and it is so unnacceptable in society for a guys in his 20's to be attracted to women so much older...my whole life has been with realtionships mosly in secret because they were so unacceptable by society....
i have never met another man who is attraceted to women so much older, and i guess that is why i am posting here....for some support..
thanks

Wow Brandon your quite a guy:)Amazing!

Hmm. I'm not one of those guys that have never been heard from, as you can see on the left, but close enough since I only occasionally post. (but should probably do so more often)

Myself, I don't really have any official upper age limit as to the age of a woman I could accept, but truth be told I couldn't imagine being with a woman more than say 25 years older than I am. ( I'm 28, soon to be 29 on Valentine's Day!) Not to say I never would, because it would really have to depend on her, our mutual attraction to each other and probably other things as well. I'm reluctant to admit it, but the popular expression around here -- that "age is just a number" is both true and untrue, IMHO. I think it's true in the sense that love can happen between two people regardless of their ages, but there's also a kind of naivete about this expression if you take it to mean that a large age difference is insignificant in a relationship. Obviously the younger the more likely any kind of age difference will matter. A sixteen year old dating a thirteen year old is going to get attention, but no one would think much of that three year difference when they're 23 and 26. A couple where one partner is say 23 and the other is 31 (this was my own OW/YM relationship experience btw) has to consider this age difference as a significant factor in their relationship because even though it's only 8 years difference, the two are in different life stages, but again this difference won't matter as much when they're 42 and 50 which leads me to my next point: Once we enter later adulthood ( generally regarded as 35+) that latitude grows even more with an even greater age difference of say more than 10 years being "acceptable", BUT only if the ages of both partners fall within that broader stage of life. That dosen't mean it's not OK or that it can't work if one partner is say 26 and the other is say 42, but the couple needs to be aware of this difference and how it can affect their relationship if they want to make it work which they most certainly can if both want to and are committed to working at it. OK, I won't belabour this any further since I'm sure you all get the point and this post is longer than I thought it would be and I had more I wanted to say that I'll save for a follow up post coming very soon right after I get something to eat -- then I'll address the other part of Lorena's query.


Oh and I almost forgot : Happy New Year to everyone!:)

Niall, your so cute, yes we will be looking forward to your follow-up, thanks for responding:)

Sorry bigagegap, I did'nt mean to over look you, I did'nt see your post until now. I like to thank you as well, and ackknowledge you too, mucho gracias.

Niall, I totally agree with your point.

17 y.o. guy with 32 y.o. woman isn't that easily accepted socially as would be the 27 y.o. guy with 42 y.o. lady. Also, an assumed level of maturity differs between 17 and 27 y.o. and one might expect that the 27 y.o. guy has more chances for a succesful relationship, as he simply already knows more or less what does he want in life and also understands more in general.
Very young guy might often be a little (or more than that)
"influenced" by his older lady to see things the way she wants him to see, as he doesn't yet know his own ways..
(Ladies, these are general statements, so please do not shoot me in defense of your 17-18 years old guys...).

I also agree that "age is only a number" serves as a convenient fraze when needed. Everything in life is somehow limited and I find it hard to believe that the age gap doesn't have to be. And not even for the society, but for the very couple, for their chances to survive as a couple. Of course, there are exceptions, but these only confirm that a standard exists.

That is not that I would criticize, dissaprove or be against. I am very open minded, but I simply do not believe that 20 y.o. can love 60 y.o.... My personal limit is in a range of 15 years, so yours, Niall, is for me a sky high....

Hey, now another subject. Being open minded should I accept the fact that in China there are little kittens kept in jars and serve as pets for small children? These kittens are given some drags to keep them flexible and they have tubes attached to their behind and tubes are used to feed them. We love our children, yes... but everything in these procedures screams that it is against the nature. It is a cruelty towards animals and ... beloved kids too.. as it twists their perception of the world... They learn that for their pleasure they can be cruel or accept cruelty...They should learn to love pets instead..

Happy New Year to everyone



Telimena :D

My God Telimena, how terrible about the kittens......what about the children who are treated cruel....some of their own parents have abandoned their own to the trash as tho they were trash. i know I may be off the subject, but I have a strong passion and compassion for the forgotten abuse children, which like those kittens, are so many treated so unthinkable. I appreciate all you're guys out spoken honesty. We women need to listen to you, for what you have to say is valuable.Keep it up:)

Just to let you guys know, I have heard that the kitten rumor is an urban legend created by some sick students. I haven't had time to thoroughly check it out, though. Does anyone else know anything?

Patricia

Originally posted by Lorena
Niall, your so cute, yes we will be looking forward to your follow-up, thanks for responding:)


Oh Lorena!!! :-)

*Now* look what you've done!: (see my slightly altered avatar pic attached)

Thanks so much for that totally unexpected and pleasant surprise but seriously it's we who should thank you for gracing us with your presence here on this board. I love the way you make an effort to respond to everyone individually and always with a kind word - you're a sweetie and a half and it's people like you who make this board great.

OK now to the second part of your question like I promised: Why I would want an older woman? Well first of all I should say that unlike some other guys I would never post a personal ad saying I was seeking an older woman exclusively becasue...well first of all I doubt it would get many replies. What some of us tend to forget is that this board isn't exactly a representative sample of the general population - many if not most women do not seem to be seriously interested guys significantly younger than themselves for various reasons I can understand. And those who are would in all probability groan and roll their eyeballs when they hear or read "seeking older woman" becasue to them it may scream of a fetishist -- a perpetual adolescent looking to fulfill a fantasy fuelled by a media sterotype. (Check out the personals section of this board of some of the guy's ads for examples of this.) To me this is very similar to the racial fetishist -- much like the white man who says "I only date Asian women" or the Asian woman who says she only dates white men or the white woman who says she prefers black men -- they're all choosing their partners according to stereotypes and it dosen't reflect well on them and they may be ruling out a lot of compatible mates in the process

For me to say I'm only interested in an older woman is tantamount to saying that there's something universally wrong with women who are closer to my own age that makes them unacceptable to me which is not true at all. I'm looking for a woman with certain qualities first and foremost -- intelligence, kindness, charm, affection,intuition and honesty and if I found a woman my own age who had all these and we had great chemistry...well it would be pretty silly of me to reject her because she wasn't "older", wouldn't it?

All the above said however, I have to admit something I have learned through observation: while somethings may deteriorate as we age, there's no denying that we improve in others and I have found a lot of the women I encounter (single or not) who have qualities I find attractive do tend to be ten or more years older than I am. Therefore, when searching I do give consideration to these women but when seeking them out I would say that "age is not important to me" rather than "I'm looking for someone older" And I've also noticed that alot of older women with the qualities I seek also DO tend to be much more discriminating and selective in the men they seek and might not be as easily impressed by some things that a younger woman might. All this plus the fact that not a lot of older women would even consider younger guys as mates in the first place means that when I do encounter such a woman who clearly seems to be taking an interest in me -- even if it's just looking at me while I'm talking to her with that look that seems to say "my aren't you sweet" makes the experience all that more special - and I tend to think of myself as very fortunate not to mention very flattered to be receiving it. But I know the work that lies ahead for me to keep her if and when the relationship develops to something more.

Well that's the end. Kinda long I know and sorry for the delay in following up, but I hope you found it worth the wait.

(Edit note: Okaaay. My pic didn't exactly appear how I thought it would and I wish I could have put the little smiley things exactly where I wanted in my post so I wouldn't have had to type them in on my keyboard. Even when I inserted my cursor near the top after the sentence I wanted them too they always got put at the bottom. Anyone know why it does this? No biggie - just curious:)

Thankyou so much no----one has ever told me something that nice as you have to me this day, as far as your picture goes your still a cutie. I've been trying to put a attachment also and it hasn't worked for me, maybe soon lol. Yes I feel like you really know what you want and I'm sure others would agree with me.Someone is bound to come along and see what a genuine person that you are, and appreciate a man of your character. I hope you find what your looking for, because all that you say, that what you want, is all good:) :) :) :) :)

Thanks for the info....I appreciate it:)

First, SuzieQ, thank you a lot for explaining the Bonsai Kittens' story. My daughter found it two days ago and we were both so very shocked.. therefore I brought it up in my post. Great relief, thanks!!!

Brandon and Niall - it has been a pleasure to read you! My chances to write in such an interesting way and agree or dissagree in such a nice manner as you do are rather small, because my knowledge of English language is limited and I am often unable to express myself the way I would like to. I must say, I can also conveniently use the language issue as an excuse.. for not leveling with others.. lol.. But it is always so exciting to find guys whos' thinking is not limited to "would like to have some fun with O/W" (Niall, these are the adds you had in mind??).

Brandon, yes, trillions of different combinations can happen in human relationships and thanks God. Otherwise just one romance during the life time would do for all... See, I used some generalizations, otherwise it would be difficult to discuss the idea itself and I wouldn't discuss any particular case here; it wouldn't be fair.

Turning back to O/W influencing very young guy I also meant something I didn't finally state. I thought about OW manipulating YM minds in order to keep him when he shows any signs of readiness for leaving. But then I've got a reflection that such manipulation can happen in every relationship. Men would use their material trappings, women have other ways - and we all try to get what we want. Therefore I left that issue using only general statement about "an experienced one leading a greenholm"... Yes, very often it helps YM to a full bloom and self confidence.. and better understanding the nature of relationship.

But.. sometimes YM with their fresh and inquiring minds can "beat" OW having all these years behind her. If she weren't inquisitive and absorbing and observing and learning through her years - she might only prevail when it comes to the lenght of time she was around. Now, the most intelligent, bright and funny OW might lack some sensitivity and sensuality and might be quite a 1st grader when it comes to intimacy. And one passionate, subtle caring and sensitive young man can show her the part of life she didn't knew before....

One could go on and on .. I'd say - no recepies, no remedies.. When I was young I used to dream about being always fair, never lie, never cheat. Dreamed about an older man (a father figure that I never knew). Well, it is nice to have dreams... Reality is sometimes unexpectedly astonishing, turning the world upside down... When I grew up I decided that I prefer younger men - and not for their stamina.. that is useful on the dance floor but who cares about making love for 4 hours... intimacy is more than that... I did lie, did cheat (revenge!!!) and used some manipulations too. The world was changing as my dreams were... Now it is fine for women to make a move, to initiate many situations, it is fine to have much younger partners and live with a man and have children out of wedlock. Tolerance has developped in us, or we simply don't care ???

Yet, I still do not believe that 20 y.o. can LOVE 60 y.o. and would suspect some manipulation there...

Best wishes,

Telimena

First of all, my 1st post on this board, although I've visited here for a while. :) If feels a little like jumping off a cliff *lol*....

Reading these posts from Niall and Brandon makes it perfectly clear to me from the OW point of view what we see in YM - Humor, intelligence and a kind of maturity some 55 year old (and older) guys have yet to achieve...

and AMEN to your comment Flyingfree! OH and welcome also to our wonderful group!

I want to thankyou all for your great input, I'm really enjoying hearing what you all have to say, I'm sure others are as well. I'm learning alot, thanks so much:)

Originally posted by suicideblonde
and AMEN to your comment Flyingfree! OH and welcome also to our wonderful group!


Thank you and welcome Flyingfree -- hope you'll stay.

Telimina:

Your English is VERY good. It never ceases to amaze me how often people whose native language isn't English say this -- when more often than not they're pretty much fluent, with only a few mistakes - give yourself the credit you deserve!

Yes, those were the ads I was referring to. Hardly surprising that once they post their ad and see either no replies or a more deserved tongue-lashing from the other board members - they almost never post anything here again. I'd like to think that if this happens often enough, the message will sink in and the board will one day be free from them entirely, but I'm not that naive. I mean the number of internet users is growing every day and for every one that vanishes another two or three more will replace them:rolleyes: and the board users will no doubt continue to give them the response they deserve. But that's part of what makes this board so great. The universal law of karma -- that whatever you do, be it good or bad -- comes back to you three times over is very much evident here. Post messages that are thoughtful, caring and supportive and the good will come back to you in abundance. Post things that offend and insult people's intelligence and well...THAT too will come back to you
;)

Sweet Brandon, yes, there are always people who love sour apples and the ones who wouldn't touch these. It is an individual approach and as such doesn't fall under my generalized statements/ divagations. There are exceptions, that we agreed upon, right?

But since -in general- I stubbornly do not believe that 20 y.o. guy would love 60 y.o. woman (and I am myself approaching that age since the day I was born...), I could eventually go for an adventure, play with such a young man - on my terms- and wave adieu. Leaving the ball before the candles are blown.. No future, no false hopes. But some women would probably try, would believe, some maybe would get it... or the best that there was possible to get..

We did have another thread here about YM ignoring our wrinkles, bellies, imperfectness.. like they loved US and not the flowless appearance. I do believe (and hope!!!) that there is no age limit for a human being to give a nest to the feeling of love. To feel loved and to love some other human being. But with age gap as big as 40 years I think aestetics would call for mercy...

I wasn't in love with this OM, but I was a little under his spell. He was good looking, well build, tall, educated UN diplomat. He was older than me I think 11 years. I did like him a lot, listen to him, enjoy his good manners, but couldn't make myself to kiss him .. felt too old for me; repulsion... He wanted us to be an item.. I would accept a friend, without intimacy... but what man will go for it???

Now, what I did doesn't have to be right or normal or abnormal. That was ME.. reacting subjectively , unable to mask repulsion.
So would react majority of 20 y.o. before kissing 60 y.o. - in general..


Jeezz, I can't think anymore and have to say good nite.

Telimena

Greetings everybody!

It seems that Lorena's post has encouraged a couple of YM out of the Cyberian woodwork here (thank you Lorena!), so ever-keen not to be branded a dreaded 'lurker' or one-handed typist I thought I'd take this opportunity to add my voice...

I'm 19 and first came to this message board around about 12 months ago becuase I'd just started dating an older woman. This was my first age-difference experience and I'm sure the other men and women in the room will appriciate how exciting this was for me!! I wanted to find out all I could, but, well- dare I say it, in spite of the wonderful confidence-boosting material in this community I was skeptical of a lasting relationship (peer pressure/parental pressure being what it is) and so I didn't join. I'm THRILLED to say that 12 months on and we have just celebrated our first anniversary and I have my fingers tightly crossed that another will be along in... well, about a year. I had no hesitation in joining this time!
(With reference to the survey going on at the moment, our age difference is in the 20-30yr range)

I'll resist the temptation to harp on endlessly about how in love I am because I'll find MYSELF insufferable.

But I AM.

I know that these relationships can work and I look forward to hopefully sharing more with all of you in the future. (especially if it means I become a gentleman hanging out with a classy lady!)

Jx

My best wishes to you both!:)

Jasper - Your feelings are almost palpable in your words... :) Best wishes for you! Thanks for joining in here and sharing your boundless joy and your story....

And thanks for the welcome from everyone else!

Thank you katmeup7 for your extremely flattering response (I don't' have any brothers)! And thank you Lorena and FlyingFree too, you've all made me feel very welcome. All this after just one message... I'll try not to get performance anxiety about future posts!

My own personal experience is that an age-difference relationship is exactly the same as a 'normal' (if such a term can be used) relationship, with the same troubles and good bits too. Except it comes complete with that extra little spice of excitement built-in; the whole situation is charged. I never really got that whole 'sparks and fireworks' analogy until now. I think once you've felt it, it's difficult to go back.

Am I being too sentimental? Anybody agree?
Jx

to find a twenty year old!!!!! I am 56 and I do not forsee myself as being significantly different in 4 years. I have female friends who are my age up to 63 or 64 and they are not the 60 year olds of 20 years ago. Also, on the inside, I am the same person that I was at 40... no wait a minute.... at 40 I had a lot of hangups about getting older and being a success before life passed me by. I am a LOT MORE serene about life now and more fun to be with.

Now I do understand about not wanting to kiss SOME 60 year old. I had some "old looking farts" respond to my profile on match.com. But there were also some 40 year olds that I was not attracted to.

If a twenty year old can love a 30 year old, a 40 year old a 50 year... then he can love a 60 year old. Remember the movie "Harold and Maude"?

I would like to know... guys.... would it be too repulsive to kiss me? (You will not hurt my feelings!)
I love this thread!!!!!!!!:p

Yellowrose has presented you with a honest question, let's show her the same respect by being honest to her. I believe that she is the kind of woman that has self confidence, that she would not get her feelings hurt.I want to continue to thank all of you who has put their input:)

Personally speaking (were I not spoken for, of course) I would kiss you without hesitation yellowrose!

It really would not hurt my feelings... guys if the answer was no..
Jasper from what I see in your picture... you look very kissable as well.

I just returned from running some errands. I went through McDonnalds drive thru for a giant Diet Coke and 2 apple pies. When I got to the window where they give you your food, this young man, I am guessing 18, said "Wow I love that red leather jacket! And it looks really great on you... paused, winked and said slowly "really great"." I started to ask if he would mind kissing me but I did not want to get in trouble......:D

So far it is 100% of young men will kiss 56 year old women!

Yellowrose, you are so funny!!! Go ahead and get into trouble. You deserve it.

Patricia

LOL....you know something that I don't? lol.....how funny:)

Barbara, I am on the same boat, don't you remember? 52,5 already behind me and ticking.... But who cares... I feel good, life is o.k. - even without deep, passionate, warm, very french..kiss!!!

I know you don't care if I would kiss you.. but I would.. just to make up to you that I've spoken about 60 y.o. I should have taken 80 y.o. for these generalizations...

Also, YR, notice, there are: younger Ann Nicole Smith and older Catherine Deveuve. You know, which one would have a line of y.m. ? So, don't YOU worry, Barbara...

KISSESS...LOL...

Telimena

Originally posted by yellowrose
I would like to know... guys.... would it be too repulsive to kiss me? (You will not hurt my feelings!)
I love this thread!!!!!!!!:p


Not only would I not find it repulsive...I would probably find it quite hard to resist:) ;)

I am 76! :p
I must admit, although I was quiet and shy in high school and never raise my hand to be called on, I loved to "neck" in the front seat at the drive-in movies. I was not a "back seat" girl though! I LOVE to KISS! x0x0 here's to the YM here!
PS Thank you...Niall... you look like you would be VERY knowledgable on the subject too!

AND a kiss back to you Telimena... I took the opportunity and ran with it! ha ha

Hi. I just found this message board about a week or two ago. Anyway, I am 21 years old and I am interested in finding a woman in her mid 30's (like 32 - 36) for a relationship. Although I will consider anyone from my age up to mid 40's. But I am really looking for an older woman that's about 10 - 15 years older than me.

I have not had any relationships yet with any older women (or any women, for that matter). But I got close to having a relationship with a woman who was 35 at the time. I had been attracted to her for over a year and eventually really fell in love with her, but she was married. Then she started going through a divorice and we had gotten very close. Anyways, one day we almost became sexual with each other but didn't. And then she learned that I wanted a relationship and she just wanted sex, and so she broke it off before anything happened. That was about a year ago and I'm still going through the healing process. I only just got to sit down with her this week to talk about it. It's the first time in a year since I've seen her. We will probably become friends again, but it will take a little time.

As far as why I am interested in older women, it's just how like... real that OW are. YW these days just seem so unreal and uninteresting. OW know how to carry themselves, they know what they want, usually more independent, usually a really good sense of humor, etc. I'm actually very intimidated by YM, but I feel perfectly fine with the older crowd. I find the OW "look" much more sexy and attractive as well. I don't really know what that "look" is, it's just that older look. I hate make up and younger girls these days seem to put way too much on. A lot of the OW I have met either don't use any or use very little. I like to see the signs of age, the wrinkles and imperfections in the skin and such.

Also OW usually like to do more of the things that I like to do, whereas the YW crowd don't. YM are into just partying, MTV, I dunno.... all that crap. I'm not into it. I'm much more into more "one on one" experiences and being in quiet enviroments.

I hope you find what your looking for....thanks for sharing with us apart of yourself:)

I am a 30yo Black Male and the reasons That I love OW are numerous. I love the way they carry themselves, the way they know what they want out of life, The desire and passion to experience new things and the fact that with the experiences that I have had they are the most incredible lovers. The oldest woman that I have been with was 49 when I was 24. It was in short the most incredible year of my life.

Im tinydancer's YM. call me KGB. i love tiny very much. im 22 and she is 42. ive never been in a relationship w/ an age difference this large, but i dont ever think about age. if you ask me how old i am it will take me a minute to respond and half the time i will be wrong. i feel as though i have lived a couple of lives already. ive been involved in certain activities and such that most people dont find their way out of until they are old or dead. i find that the people i associate w/ are much the same way. im not habitually attracted to nor do i chase older women. i look for people who are at my experience and maturity level. most girls my age are just that, girls. i am not a boy nor is my 19 year old best friend, however my 32 year old friend is. bottom line, it is not age for me it is who the person is.
KGB

To philly and KGB, much thanks for posting. You both have a great attitude and seem to be very mature about having chosen to have age gap relationships. Thanks also for the compliments about us OW. I hope that you will stick around and give your opinions in other threads as well. We love to hear the guys' viewpoints on any subject we discuss.

Ciao,

Patricia

I agree with Patricia.....I appreciate your honesty in sharing with us your interest and why you're in agegap relations, I hope your life is truely blessed and may many more blessings come your way. :)

I am definately glad I stumbled in here. I was chatting with a friend and we were discussing the sttraction between OW and YM. What started out as a quick discussion turned into a 2hours marathon. The main point that I would like to make is that for YM who are attracted to OW it is a preference. I personally still find younger ladies attractive physically but there is just something about an OW, as cliche as it may sound I feel that they generally have the total package. Theres no need for them to dress "****ty" they know what they have and have learned that "sexy" doesnt mean out there for everyone to see. As far a sexually I love that most OW that I have been with enjoy and understand that romance and affection tend to make for a MUCH more pleasurable experience. I love the open-mindedness, the focus without being stubborn. The way they walk when they know your eyes are on them and only them, the slight swaying of the hips, the tilt of the head and the incredible way their legs look ina pair of stockings. When I have a conversation with an OW I love the fact that there are more subjects to talk about than the number and places of piercings that they have, what song a hot new boy band has out, what club will let them drink if they are underage, and that terror isnt wanting to go out and finding your favorite dress dirty. I love that OW understand that you can express more by gazing into a womans eyes than by maxing out your credit card on them. Ow understand that sometimes you just cant keep your hands off of them, not that you have done anything wrong and are trying to make up for it, but that you truely find them irresistable. I love that OW arent surprised that I can and often want to cook, That I actually know what an Iron is and how to use one, that I know the difference between a massage after a long days work and a prelude to a quickie because Ive had a woodie all day. That I can open a door for her and not be thought of as a wimp and that the day of the first kiss, hug, time I said I love you,or whatever tho momentous as it may be is NOT and anniversary that needs to be remembered. I firmly believe that OW are the reward for a MAN that has had the enlightenment to open his eyes and see that older is better and that his life is infinitely better with an OW in it.

Man Philly if you don't have a ow come knocking at your door ( so to speak ) with what you have stated, I would say they must be missing something. You go bro, like what you had to say.:)

So far, I'd have to say I'd go out with any OW on this site. Each of you is special in your own way (but I have to say, I've been in contact with some more than others!) and have a lot ot give to us YM.

I'm a 22 year-old YM. I love OW because they are mature and stable. They're sucessful not becuase they may have a lot of money, but because they've been down some of life's tougher roads. They're survivors and they have yet to show any scars...they still have a lot of life and a lot of love to give.

So far, I have not met that special woman. Maybe I have, but neither of us know it yet ;) I've had an internship where I worked primarily with OW and that was very rewarding to me (you can read about my fantasy with them in "Craziest Thing You've Done" thread). Plus, I remember when I set up my checking account at my bank, it was an OW who helped me out. She said I was a nice young man -- something I get a lot from OW.

Indeed, it's always the OW who compliment me on my personality, my appearance, and so forth. And I must compliment them too. I mean it when I say it -- every OW here at Ageless looks good!

A lot of reasons to love OW...I have plenty of reasons.

I got so caught up in explaining why I love OW that I must say this: How old should they be?

Well, is there a such thing as too old? I've seen many women here in there 30s, 40s, and 50s...I don't think that's too big a gap for me!!

well I be darn......aren't you a cutie pie :)

I thought this would be a good thread .............to give the new guys an opportunity to share as well.:)

Great thread Lorena. Had you not bumped it up, I would never had seen it. Thanks!:D

It would be nice if the new guys would place their thoughts......maybe they feel that they can't add nothing to what all these wonderful people on this thread have already said........or they just don't care to take the challenge to speak up on our behalf. oh the shame the shame of it all j/k LOL:D

After thinking about it, I think that I am interested in OW because I find OW to be more sure of themselves and confident.

I am interested in women from 30 to 50, however, I am not going to say that those ages are concrete. I am just looking for someone that I enjoy and that enjoys me. I am looking for a partner for travel, conversation, quite nights, long strolls, continuous laughter, and anything else that we might desire.

I was involved with a woman that was 10 years older than me when I was 21 and I have never forgotten her. It was a great time. We had such a tremendous time together. It was nice to meet an intelligent, confident, secure woman with whom I could have an intellectual conversation and just be goofy with sometimes. I long to meet someone like that again.

That's my 2 cents!javascript:smilie(':)')

-Evan


:) :)

I want to bump this up again, cuz I love reading what the men have to say. There's a lot more guys on here who haven't posted yet, would luv to hear from you all! ;)

i have always been attracted to older girls since i was very young. i think that it may just be the fact that they are older and you are younger. its a natuaral thing in my opinion same reason older men like younger women.

What I have noticed.... alot of you saying, that when you have dated a women who was older it was an experiance that was never forgotten......I hear alot about the self confidence, how that has been in most cases of the ow, hayduke, just out of curiousity, how old are you now? Anthony can you explain in more detail what you mean about it being a natural thing in dating a older woman.......and xited1 I appreciate you keeping this post going thanks.........thanks to you too.... hayduke and anthony, I have never seen any of you on here before and to me that is so cool to hear from you. :)

Lorena,

I am now 29. So, it really wasn't that long ago. Still, I am constantly thinking back to her. I liked the fact that she was stable and not so wishy washy. She was easy to talk to. She had lots to say and she would listen as well. In reality, I guess those are not traits that are possessed soley by older women. Females my age now should be more like her than the young girls I dated then. But it just seems different. I don't know. I am attracted to older women. For whatever reason! LOL.

Take care,

Evan

Evan......yes I see where your coming from.....those are good traits to have and find in anyone not just ow..........I like your reasons for remembering this woman, it is all good......you have my respect, perhaps your find that in another someday......they are out there that's for sure.....GOOD LUCK and keep posting, in your own thread or others, just like to keep you around (smile).......You take care too!:)

an opportunity to reply.......if no replies I will let this thread go.???

BUMP

Well, it's almost a strange question for me. I've often told my girl, ~Guin~, that this chatsite is good for those in "age-gap relationships", but I've never considered myself as being in that sort of a relationship. I've never thought about my girl as older than I, nor have I ever treated her as though she is "the older woman" and I'm "the younger man". She's just my girl, if that makes sense...

I don't see my relationship with my girl as any different than a relationship I would have had with someone in my age range, being my mid-20's. And I've never really thought of someone in her mid-40's as my perfect partner. There's not really something about older women that is more or less attractive than any other women.

To be as frank as possible, my girl truly is the girl of my dreams. She's beautiful, funny, smart, intelligent, understands me and knows that I understand her. She doesn't play mind-games like others tend to do (of all ages, mind you), and she doesn't think that I'm sleeping with other women when I've told her that I went to a pub after work with a bunch of workmates, in which some just happened to be a couple of girls. We may be seperated by distance for now, but we'll be together again, and we both know that. We're both happy with each other, and we both love each others company. She is my best buddy, my lover, my confidant and the one who makes me smile when I need it most. She takes care of me just as I take care of her, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

So, am I in an age-gap relationship? You may think so, but I have never seen us like that, nor will I ever. She's just my girl, and I'm her guy. And that's how it is.

Well , well ,well.........I hope others are reading what you guys are saying. Now this is putting it in a differant light lancelot.......you never even considered it an age-gap, mind you (she's just your girl).......do you hear that ladies and men? Now if we can go through life not even considering the age but the relationship only........then we have crossed over a break wall or even a thin space. This lancelot never thought of the age as being even there. Just his girl!:) Talking about being comfortable with who you are.....I believe lancelot is.:)

~blushing~

I was the one in the beginning of the relationship with Lance that had all the concerns and insecurities related to age. From the beginning he has never had any concern for the age thing. Because of that, I have been able to move forward in a relationship to make it a good one, to focus on what we have together, what standards we have placed on our partnership and left the age difference out of it. We are just 2 people who met, fell in love, and have built a good relationship. It would not have mattered what age we were, we were attracted to each other and went from there.

~kisses for Lancelot~

your such a beautiful person......one day he'll be there.......I can't believe that a woman like you would remain alone forever so you just hold to that dream.........And Guinavere, you got quit a guy there, I think you had alot to learn from him, he he he:)

to bring back...........All the newbies would benifit from this.......and in memory of the beautiful ym that were with us at one time.........We miss you!.......And to all the other ym that have there own thoughts. ;)

I'm so glad that this thread and this site is helping you, it really helped me with any unsecurities, which today I have none regarding my age differance with my husband.......I believe your hunny when he say's he doesn't care how old you are, and you shouldn't either, I'm sure your still as great looking as you were 10 years ago so don't think to much of that, really ten years isn't a big differance. And isn't much of a agegap either.

Trish that really builds my faith when I hear about someone doing well as we have prayed for them, I'm glad tell him ok? I'm doing good thank God.........love you!

UkBoytwo, thankyou for your input.....I'm sure many here can identify with you, it's nice to see that your not blind by your real feelings, I agree that in some cases it's easier said then done, but again it can be done depending on how strong the two involved feel about eachother and how much they want to make it work, I'm glad that you shared we need people like you to help those who are struggling to see that no their not alone.

Wow! I had forgotten about this thread! Things have changed a bit since this began. Of course Lancelot and I have been married just over a year now and everything is wonderful! And because the age difference isn't an issue with us, none of our friends have ever even commented on the age difference! They just see us as who we are, a married couple who love each other and have fun together!

ask Lancelot if he will be willing to come back and share with us his experiance of being married to the woman of his life.........I for one know that you two are happy and I think it would be nice for him to come back and share with us his new life....... with the love of his life......tell him we miss him!

Older women are smarter, wiser, sexier, more fun and more mature.

Its as simple as that.

What about prettier? LOL........You left that out he he he.......I better not push it huh? .......Just kidding with ya!:p

Hey Brandon,

Welcome back, or have you been lurking unseen all this time :)

Take care,
Jannie

Originally posted by Marie Zunck
Hey Brandon,

Welcome back, or have you been lurking unseen all this time :)

Take care,
Jannie

jannie, look at the date under brandon's post. i dont think he's back. i think lorena started this thread a few years ago.

LOL DUH RALPH.

Well I was thinking, this is weird!!! Hey Mano, how are you doing or is this an old answer?
lol

doing well. just busier than ever with school and teaching. but it keeps me content.

i too, see some familiar faces coming back.

i personally don't post much anymore. but lurk from time to time.

I always knew you were a lurker!!! Yeah, I never think about looking at the age of the post, most posts dont last this long!!! at least mine dont :)

LOL........it's not that the post lasted this long,......I brought it back because I feel that this thread is one of the threads that say alot about this site.......And those who shared were amazing, and I mean amazing!........And you may of overlooked that I stated that when I brought this thread back....As I posted I thought this would be good for the newbies and give them an opportunity to share their views.

Ukboy don't sweat it about the mis-spells we all do it from time to time.

And as for Mano and I we spend alot of time where Maria who once was here has her own site now, but like mano I come here every so often.......so that's about it........don't let a thread that is old stop you from stating your own feelings ok?;)

Mano was it more like two years ago? I don't think I've been here that long? But then again time flies, I guess I should just check out the date lol :p

Mano was it more like two years ago? I don't think I've been here that long? But then again time flies, I guess I should just check out the date lol :p [/B]

the thread was created on 12-26-2002 so a little over two years. i can't believe it's 2005! :eek:

i just wanted to reply to bigagegap, I am happy to learn that "men" are also interested in females for who they are and not just looks/or a number..
I think that more ym would look or date older ladies but fear the wrath of friends, family and society in general.. OMG.. he's with an older lady, he must be looking for Mom... actually I think ym are more mature and don't go by what media says is 'right" for them.. and I feel that in the future, the age thing will not be an issue...
only people getting together ..

I think it is more common now........even with my relatives there are several who are married with say 10 years to even 20 years differance, it doesn't surprise me in the least.......I think it always was there, but more out in the open now, to where ym feel as though they can go for it.......Sort of coming out of the closet, if you get my drift?;)

I am 22 now, but when I was with my OW I was 19 and she was 30. I don't care for the way most people my age act, etc. I'm not a party person and neither was she, we had fun, just not out at partys drinking like most people my age. We went to concerts, movies, and just about anything else that we felt like doing. Anyhow I miss her sometimes, but I know she wasn't the right one for me.

that's my story!

I wish you all the best......I'm sure the right one will come along.......and yea not everyone is for the party scene.......that can get pretty old after awhile. Thanks for sharing.

woo-hoo, it's my turn.
Well, I am 24 now and my last relationship was when I was 23 and I was with a 35 year old woman. I started dating OW when I turned 21. The first OW was my older sister's friend who waited a long time to date me. Things didn't go as they planned, but we still stayed in touch and I learn some sensual experience from her. ;) Then as the years went by, I started dating my boss's and supervisors from my work. Was always afraid to ask them, so they asked me. Some were married, but nothing serious happen. The last relationship I was in though, she was 35 as I said and was real lovely to me. She had kids. And she treated me like a King and I treated her as a Queen. We were madly in love an did what lovers do. I dedicated songs for her on the radio and sent her flowers and gifts to her workplace and her friends were curious about me. But then she was afraid of what her friends were say and later on, she lost the feeling of loving a YM. I stayed with OW because of they things I have learned from them. The sexual side and the character side was were I wanted to be and it made me happy. I was treated with care and gifted, and I too returned that same gestures to show that I cared and loved her. But here in California, it's hard to find OW to date because of the fear of what other people will say.

I don't know when this thread was started, but I have to say, it has to be my absolute favorite so far (after 3 years on this board!!!).

All of my perceived reasons for why younger men are attracted to us OW have been solidified here, and in the words of the young men themselves! LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!

The intelligence of the posts by the ym is incredible. Their genuineness and sensitivity is boundless..and they are DANG CUTE. You guys are EXACTLY the reason why my preference is to be in the company of men 10-20 years younger.

MAN...Brandon, Niall, phillychocolate, shaggydog....you guys especially nearly brought tears to my eyes. You are so articulate and appreciative of what we OW bring to the table valuing it more than the shallowness of youth and the societal norms of "beauty".

And Barb...you crack me up!!! I would have probably leaned out of the car window, grabbed the 18 year old that said I looked great in my red jacket, and planted a kiss ON HIM!!! You are a beautiful woman, with a great soul and sense of humor...of course the "boys" on the board would all jump at the chance to kiss you!!!

I LOVE THIS THREAD !!! It has finally brought the guys out themselves to voice what we OW sometimes go round and round about on the relationship threads: for instance, age DOES have bearings on some relationship issues....teen age to about 21 or so is an age range in flux, and young guys that age CAN be influenced by their view of their OW as a goddess (which could imply that a relationship started with a man who was 19 will very much likely change as he ages)....and, that ym who prefer to date us aren't comparing our aging bodies to the 18 year old Brittney's out there because they are attracted to us FOR THE WHOLE PACKAGE and think WE ARE SEXY !!

All I have to say is Halleluyah:D ..oh, and one more thing....Brandon, Niall, Shaggy and Philly, if you are still around, can I be your friend;)? Really, all the ym on this thread are wonderful men, and we all appreciate the time you guys have taken to post...now, don't stop!

Lorena, you ROCK for coming up with this topic:)
Best to Everyone,
Karen *who leaves for work smiling to herself feeling confident enough to wink at the next young man who gives her a compliment knowing now that it's probably sincere!*

You go girl, you know you got it!.........And messengerboy, be the first to put that fear away about what others think out there in Calif.......I remember when I first saw it as a young woman, it was a very handsome couple, the only thing that went through my mind is that she must really be hot and have something to give to that ym.......I believe I was right on track.......Don't let what others think stop you from continuing to go after what you want, and in love I say stay with the unhitched one, the others will only fail you in the long run........Thanks for sharing! :p

Well my name is Roby I am Latin-American, and I completely love older women, I have had a few experiences dating, but not much more. When I heard about this site I decided to check it out. There is just something I love about older women, tey are so much more caring, loving and confident about thmeselves that I truly can be myself around them. Needeless to say, I am single now but looking to meet that older woman. It is goo to have a site like this to talk about this sort of issue. Anyways feel free to say hello!:)

Well that's cool Latin American, Let me be the first to say hello, and welcome.........you heard him ladies he's single and available. ;) .......Roby you know that being able to be yourself is so important in making a relationship work, and when a woman doesn't have so many hangups, it is easier to be yourself......In most cases the yw is still trying to find herself and just may not be at a place in her life that she can say that she's without hangups, she still needs to experiance life and with her insecurities about life and where she is at now, its hard to find yourself being able to feel free.......it's not the yws fault we ow have walked there too, and because we have gone there and through we are more comfortable about who we are and where our place is in this world..........Hopefully by now with lifes experiances we don't carry around with us baggage, we don't need to play silly games with the mind, we are comfortable, confident and secure, and why? Because we have learned who we are and what we can be, and we can be at it's best (The Woman!);) Thanks for sharing !

Originally posted by Lorena
the only thing that went through my mind is that she must really be hot and have something to give to that ym.......I believe I was right on track.......Don't let what others think stop you from continuing to go after what you want,

Yes, most of the OW were really hot and they did give me what they had in stored for me;) , if you know what I mean? Anyways, it's not that I have fear of what other's may say, but it's that They fear of what others might say. I have courage and have self-understandment why things happen, but here in Cali, they tend to get a little scared. Mostly the places we go are over populated by young people and it makes them feel uncofertible. But I keep on trying. I just have to stay away from the married one's though because it's just not happening anymore. :eek:

I appreciate everything you had to say.........Thankyou!;)

By all means it's not my intention to offend anyone from either side of these boards......I know that there are mature yw as there are immature ow and visa versa.......I was addressing Roby, to be as to why his experiance was as such........So heaven forbid that there should be an ageless civil war because of this thread.

Please keep sharing your thoughts, thankyou!

Lorena, thanks for the welcome, and indeed you are absolutely right about YW (in most cases) trying to find themselves. I believe that Sally has some valid points as well, but she must understand that you were not making a statement about all women. I just hope that what people say is giving a true chance before being disected, after all this is how we can learn from one another. Lorena again thanks for your welcome and for your words of wisdom!;) Have a great day!

As a YW from "the other side" I want to thank you Sally for questioning the assumption that OW are somehow superior. I did actually read this thread yesterday and was somewhat offended by it, but then I thought well, fine if they want to think that - that's their opinion. But I was disappointed by it, since the openness towards age differences is what drew me to the forum in the first place.

[QUOTEB]I]Originally posted by Lorena
[ By all means it's not my intention to offend anyone from either side of these boards......I know that there are mature yw as there are immature ow and visa versa.......I was addressing Roby, to be as to why his experiance was as such........So heaven forbid that there should be an ageless civil war because of this thread.

Cabinfever again I stress that it wasn't my intention to offend anyone........and I think what these ym are trying to say, their experiance with the yw they encountered may of been not to good......but I'm sure that doesn't mean all yw are that way.......I have nephews who have had not so good experiances with the yw they encountered, yet I have young neices who are really together.......so it really depends who you meet. And no not all ym are perfect either........but what this thread is about is giving the young man the chance to express themselves......Don't forget alot om prefer yw and really I don't see that to be a problem. As I'm sure others agree.

Yes and I do agree with Sally she does make alot of sense, at the same time ym I don't want this to discourage you from being honest with your feelings........I feel sally just wants to make it clear that older women are not just an easy fix, but that your desire for the ow goes beyond sex and a fun time and so on........Roby your sooooooo welcome feel free to speak up, hopefully this thread will be a thread where we can be honest yet , kind PEACE! :D

No worries Lorena - I completely understand where you are coming from, and I also know plenty other YW who are immature etc etc, just like many YM are. I just really really dislike generalizations. Carry on folks! :D

It's not like some people are born YW and some are born OW. We start off as YW and become OW.

I don't think of myself as an OW myself, actually. Just here, because my bf is so young. But that's it.

Why would YW become offended by any inference that some men prefer OW? Don't they realize that they will become OW someday? Don't they think that they are going to improve with age? I plan on improving with age. I don't get offended when some of the 40-50-something women here say they like themselves better than when they were 30. It makes me happy that my future is so promising.

I don't think the inference that some men prefer older women is the issue, for me at least, but rather, statements suggesting that younger women are lacking in qualities that older women posses. It's the blanket statements that bug me. Age doesn't necessarily endow certain qualities on someone - which most of us are very much aware of, since we are in, or have been in, age gap relationships.

That's true that age doesn't necessarily guarantee certain qualities. Some older women are never going to be as cool as I am now!! Haha. But I know that when I'm 40, I'm going to have learned even more than I know now, which will hopefully mean that I will understand myself better, and that can't be a bad thing, can it?

Yep yep - exactly, Pickcat! I'm hoping that I get better with age too!

Ok, sorry guys - enough from me - let's hear from the lurking YM....we know you're out there!

I'm sure that if this same question were posed in reverse to the YW of the other side, the responses from them would be similar to the YM's here ! They would probably cite the maturity, confidence and security that OM possess/provide....they are attracted to those qualities for whatever reason and probably find them generally more prevalent in the older men they date. I doubt any of the younger men from this side would be offended by that. When OM have posted that they preferr YW, It doesn't bother me either...no matter what their reasoning. We all need to happily celebrate preferences and diversity of opinions on what people find attractive and their personal perceptions of relationships with OW, OM, racial differences, whatever.

My skin is much thicker than to be offended or start a civil war if I read on the other side that OM find YW more attractive, intelligent, fun or whatever because I would NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY (ever read "The Four Agreements"? Good book). Instead I would think: Cool, these OM are attracted to YW for reasons they feel deeply about...to each his own :-)...I'm just glad that by the nature of their AG choices, they are furthering the visibility of AGR's in society, and that benefits all of us !!!!

Undeniably, there ARE things that develop only as we age (wisdom for having gone through various life experiences for one)...that we had in a foundational form when we were young and wonderful. I think what these ym have said ( and I hear all the time from ym who prefer older women) is that those "developed" qualities are what attracts them. It is not a slight to YW at all, and I'm sure none meant it to be. Certainly, Lorena didn't mean to imply anything negative. It's just a curiosity that I personally have had, and I know most of the ladies on this side have had as well: Why the heck are they attracted to us when there are so many great YW their age? It's an honest question...and all young men on this board (lurking or active), whether in a relationship or not at this point, are encouraged to respond.

We love your input in all of the threads here at ageless.:D

Good points, special K.

I think I'm just coming from a different perspective. I'm not attracted to older men per se. I fell in love with one though, despite his age. I'm definately not attracted to someone providing for me in any way, and I don't think my OM is any more mature that alot of YM (LOL :p ). So, I think I look at age gap relationships differently than others do. And that's what makes this forum so interesting! It's great to have all these different perspectives!

it's just a small example to what we have been saying in comparing yw to ow.......I was at the gym working out on the stairmaster and in came a ow about 60's or even her 70's , she wasn't in bad shape for being her age and to top it off she was doing the weight workout class.......anyway there was this yw who is over weight working out by my side.....I proceeded to ask her how she felt about that little old lady working out like that?......Her statement was It makes me feel as tho I better hurry up and lose weight so I can become skinnier then her.........That was not quit the answer I was looking for......So I asked her doesn't it give you hope?..........I chuckled as tho altho I'm an old lady it made me feel as tho growing older wasn't all that bad..........My point is yw rather then become offended realize that we were yw too like pinkcat stated (btw come here pinkcat so I can give you a big hug, pinkcat isn't all that old she's one of our babies on this side), and like special k stated we learned through experiance, let us be an example to a hopeful future for the yw.......And even tho some don't like age being the issue.....I think its a logical question to ask the ym......so ym, don't hold back, I appreciate honesty and I'm sure glad that we have all been able to express ourselves in a peaceful manner........Hugs to all of you!;)

Seeing as how Kat chimed me into this post and Sally has responded to it :P I'll give you my reasoning.

I read most of the beginning skipped some of the middle, and read the most recent responses to this thread.

I agree with some of the guys that responded in saying that they are 'old souls' I will tell you I've often felt that way and I had to mature (in some ways) more than others. Not to say I'm mature in every way, and not to say I don't learn things constantly, because I do. I think everyone does despite their age, and when you stop learning..you stop living.

Any way, I've always had older friends since I was 9 years old or so. I befriended my babysitters and always had meaningful conversations with them. My attraction to older women is not just for their physical appearance, but for their mind as well. Not to say they cannot be immature (immaturity can come at ANY age) But they have confidence, and for the most part emotional stability. They know what they want in a relationship and for many guys with 'old souls' we want that.

I ended up joining this site to find friendships, knowing that I always enjoyed 'adult' conversations. When I was 14 I chatted with people that thought I was in my 40s because of the way I conversed. I never lied to anyone about my age I always told them to guess :) I didn't know for sure if I would meet anyone or fall in love.


OK i've rambled enough and just incase anyone wonders/cares I am 23 and Kathy my g/f is 46 We've been together for a year

I'm sure many other ym can identify with you! Very beautifully put!;)

HI. I am Chris. I am 25. I am looking for any woman that is older. I would love it. I am a very caring and gentle man. I love to give massages. I love to please. I haven't been able to find anyone on here so far. I haven't been with an older woman. Only people my age. My email address is chris_does_care@yahoo.com

Hi there i am 29. I have had little in the love field my first gf occured when i was 23 it was a five week course in do's and don'ts nothing came of that. my second was a few months later another 5 week course in Not to do and she was my first time she was 18 and then in 2000 i met my 3rd gf and she was 18 years older than me. We met thru the internet and started a friendship thru there. After a while we both decided to meet and it was love at first sight . We started going out and testing the waters. We had big problems from our families not liking the dating although we both tried to get to know the other's family they wouldn't try for us but we kept up with it.
We never lived together through the entire relationship but we had plenty alone time and weekends where we went away for the weekend. The end came when i had 2 jobs and making money like crazy, there wasn't time to be together that much and she found someone closer to her age to cheat on me with. I can honestly say she is my first love and i am still reeling from the loss. My decision to date an OW wasn't something to consider i just happened to have fallen in love with a strong independant woman and unfortunatly it ended in heartache. You can't choose who you fall in love with you just do.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lorena
[B] My question to you all....... being a ym, tell your age and the ages of a woman that you would be with, why and what has been your most memorable experiance in being with a woman in that age range you speak of? What has lead you to choose a woman that is older in the first place? And what do you find that keeps you there?

Hi Chris I appreciate your response, but I think you may of misunderstood my Q?........I think that what you posted would be best put in the ow-ym personals that are at the main index, your probably get a better response there......;)

rkstud........your so right, you don't choose who you fall in love with, I'm just sorry you lost your first love and had your heart broken, it wasn't meant to be apparently, but who knows the right one will come along when you least expect it........Thankyou for sharing.;)

Brandon, Niall, Shaggy and Philly, if you are still around, can I be your friend? Really, all the ym on this thread are wonderful men, and we all appreciate the time you guys have taken to post...now, don't stop!


Wow! Do I have perfect timing or what!? :D

It's been nearly two years since I last posted here, and while I have logged on very occasionaly during that time, like I did today thinking "I haven't checked in here for a long time" and then I saw this thread which I knew looked familiar...and then it all came back to me. Well thanks to whoever gave this old thread a bump -- it's a trip down memory lane to see my own thoughts again after all that time, since I don't keep a journal as regularly as I should. And I have to say that I still stand by (almost) everything I said then, now as much as ever. I see the board has changed quite a bit too, with several new forums and it's great to see lots of new faces, as well as lots of familiar old ones. Well it's been a busy two years for me -- I'll have to fill you all in on the details in another thread. (but I also gotta pick a better avatar. Ugh, what was I thinking?) :o

And Special K, Yes, I can NEVER have too many friends! ;)

Long time no see:) That is sooooo cool to hear from you again, and as far as your avatar, awww heck your still a cutie pie. My computer is messed up so everyone kinda looks blurry, but that's away it goes when your stuck with a crappy computer lol

I haven't always been around either but I do miss the old postings you guys have done, so glad that you made yourself known.........Hope all is well?

bump it up.....

I don't think the inference that some men prefer older women is the issue, for me at least, but rather, statements suggesting that younger women are lacking in qualities that older women posses. It's the blanket statements that bug me. Age doesn't necessarily endow certain qualities on someone - which most of us are very much aware of, since we are in, or have been in, age gap relationships.

I'll get to this point in a minute, but first...

My g/f is the first (and I hope and think will be the last) o/w I have ever been out with. Any other g/f has always been either a year or two older or a year or two younger and those relationships have been few and far between. Along the way though, I have found myself being attracted to o/w more and more. By o/w I guess I mean it has mainly been those that are about 10 years older than me. The thing was that I never even thought seriously that anything would ever happen with them. In fact, the number of times I had some o/w say that "you would make a great b/f if you were 10 years older or I was 10 years younger" was a bit infuriating.

My friends now and whilst at school were all my own age. It wasn't like I had lots of friends who were adults or anything. But there was a period in my life when I was working and most of the people I worked with were older, in their late twenties to early thirties or more. At the time I was in my late teens and early twenties and I found that I got on with those people better than a lot of friends my own age. Maybe I was more with their maturity level? Now I don't work there anymore and I'm at university, so having older friends isn't as easy to come by, but I guess I still gravitate towards people who aren't quite as... err, childish???
I think maybe it comes down to me being an 'old soul', which is what my g/f often says about me.

I think what attracts me to women in generally is that they are confident and know where they are heading in life, more specifically that they know what they are looking for in a relationship and are willing to go out there and get it. I think that generally this is a quality that you are more likely to find in o/w than y/w, although there will obviously be quite a lot of y/w who also have that too. The other things that attract me to my g/f are all things that y/w could also have. She's kind, a bit wacky, attractive, funny (very), likes to have fun, loves the same music as me, is creative and has the most beautiful soul. But the other thing that is most attractive to me (possibly most important?) is the easiness of being in a relationship with her, and I think that comes down to the fact that due to her age she knows who and what she wants from it and that it is exactly the same as what I want too.

Btw, my g/f is 43 and I'm 24 (25 in 2 months).

Oh, and I do mainly post on the relationship support bit, and occasionally on the LDR bit.

[QUOTE=Rob]

. At the time I was in my late teens and early twenties and I found that I got on with those people better than a lot of friends my own age. Maybe I was more with their maturity level? ???
I think maybe it comes down to me being an 'old soul', which is what my g/f often says about me.


Btw, my g/f is 43 and I'm 24 (25 in 2 months).

Thanks Rob........Great post!.....I think it does have alot to do with your maturity level, many other ym have come to find that true for them.......And because your able to be comfortable where your at, it helps to find one who is comfortable and know's what she wants......Unfortunally not all have that, so cherish what you do have.

hi there i am a 19 year old male and have never been out with an oolder woman. I would say the age i am most interested in is a lady in her 30s or 40s. Like one guy i saw who posted on this thread, i was raised on 50s and 60s music, and i love the old classic movies from the 30s 40s 50s and 60s. So I think i have more in common with an older woman. I have been out with a few women my age or a year older and we jsut dont have the same interests and to be honest and i agree with the guy who i saw said this and that is that older women are class yand most of the women around my age are not classy at all. I hope on here i am able to find an older woman that i can have a long term relationship with. I hope you found this post helpful.

hi there i am a 19 year old male and have never been out with an oolder woman. I would say the age i am most interested in is a lady in her 30s or 40s. Like one guy i saw who posted on this thread, i was raised on 50s and 60s music, and i love the old classic movies from the 30s 40s 50s and 60s. So I think i have more in common with an older woman. I have been out with a few women my age or a year older and we jsut dont have the same interests and to be honest and i agree with the guy who i saw said this and that is that older women are class yand most of the women around my age are not classy at all. I hope on here i am able to find an older woman that i can have a long term relationship with. I hope you found this post helpful.

younguy.....Yes I find it to be very helpful, thanks for sharing and welcome to ageless!