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Sitting down on the john.

Percy
10-01-2006, 11:10 AM
One of the things I stopped doing over the past couple of years is standing up while I go to pee. I sit down now whenever I have to go. I do this for purely hygienic reasons.

Sorry folks, but I have to be a little graphic here to make my point. Whenever men have to go to pee, everyone knows that when the flow hits the water, it sprays up and out of the toilette bowl onto your legs if your wearing shorts, or onto your pants if your wearing longlegged pants, not to mention it spraying all over the floor and the little bathcarpets that most of us use in bathrooms. I hope that most of the guys out there are cleaning off their legs before they jump into bed with their loved ones! lol!!!

Bottom line is I got fed up of this happening evertime I went to the bathroom and having to clean floors, carpets and pants and my legs if exposed. So I decided to start sitting down on the john whenever I needed to do this and it has solved my hygienic problems.

I've only mentioned this to one other person since I've been doing this and I thought that her being a female she would appreciate this, but her reaction was surprisingly to me, a bit negative. She kinda thought that it was a bit unnatural for a man to be doing this. I didn't let this bother me at all.

I know this sounds a little unconventional and calls for men to change their habits a bit, but in the end for me it's just more hygienic and clean to do so then going the old traditional way. What do you all think?

I was going to post this in Health Chat, but I wanted this subject to get a little bit more exposure so I placed it here. I leave it up to your descretion, moderators. ;)

Shirl
10-01-2006, 11:28 AM
Percy, Percy, Percy...:D You are just the good humor I needed today!!

and, I think I now know you better then most of the men I have dated!!:D

Well, as for the peeing thing, I really don't mind how a guy does it...so long as he actually hits the bowl!

My last live-in said standing up to pee was way over-rated, and usually, I think, sat too.

All in all, I'd say it would be up to the guy, and I don't mind.

(on the other hand, a past bf ALWAYS stripped from the waist down if he was using the toilet, sitting that is! And I did think it was a bit strange...)

Dan_Shues
10-01-2006, 11:39 AM
No offense, but I don't want to know how you're taking a leak if you're getting splash back on your legs and the floor and carpets...

Never have I had this problem.

CabinFever
10-01-2006, 11:43 AM
Percy, you're not odd!!

My BF and my ex both do this and a few friends have brought it up too, saying that their boyfriends do it too. And yep, these guys say it was the splashing you get when you pee standing up that made them sit too. So, from my perspective peeing sitting down is great - way cleaner bathroom!!

It did take some getting used to at first though since I'd never heard of men doing that. I'm guessing it's more common than we think, and think that men generally wouldn't talk about it...maybe it's a cultural taboo among men.

Percy
10-01-2006, 11:44 AM
Percy, Percy, Percy...:D You are just the good humor I needed today!!

and, I think I now know you better then most of the men I have dated!!:D

Thank you Shirl....this put a big smile on my face and I appreciated the rest of your comments also. :D

Percy
10-01-2006, 11:52 AM
No offense, but I don't want to know how you're taking a leak if you're getting splash back on your legs and the floor and carpets...

Never have I had this problem.

First of all , Dan, let me say I'm glad you have never had a problem with this but I'll bet dollars to donuts you are a minority as I'm sure this thread will show. If I'm wrong about that I'll be the first to admit it.

I know you may not want to hear about it but I am sure many other people are interested in what I have to say about the subject. No offence taken btw. ;)

Harrison
10-01-2006, 12:04 PM
Percy,

I will agree with you that there is a lot of dirtiness associated with standing to pee... in fact just this morning I had to use tissue to wipe the floor due to "missed aim" :D

That stuff gets ALL over the place, definitely. But I'd say that 85% of the time, it goes where I want with no splashing on clothes or anywhere else. So I'm still standing! :cool:


Far more important to me is what many, many, many men DON'T do after a pee --- which is to WASH THOSE HANDS!! Just check guys out in a public restroom sometimes. In the USA at least, we are pretty gross.

Percy
10-01-2006, 12:09 PM
Far more important to me is what many, many, many men DON'T do after a pee --- which is to WASH THOSE HANDS!! Just check guys out in a public restroom sometimes. In the USA at least, we are pretty gross.

Hey Harrison,

LMAO!!! I'm sure you'll find that , that is an international problem not just relagated to the good ole US of A lol!!!:p :D

whiterose
10-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Moved ya to Health Chat, Percy, but left a redirect in Chit Chat so folks can follow the thread here if they are interested.

As for my opinion, I'd much rather the guy sit down than forget to raise the seat and pee all over where I'm about to sit down. :p

I don't really see the big deal. In fact, when I was potty training my son, I taught him first how to pee sitting down. We then graduated to standing up. And poor little guy got his little wee wee smashed by the toilet lid on many occasions and I always asked myself, "why am I doing this to him??" :p I guess I just thought that was how all men pee and that it was "the thing to do."

Percy
10-01-2006, 12:26 PM
I don't really see the big deal. In fact, when I was potty training my son, I taught him first how to pee sitting down. We then graduated to standing up. And poor little guy got his little wee wee smashed by the toilet lid on many occasions and I always asked myself, "why am I doing this to him??" :p I guess I just thought that was how all men pee and that it was "the thing to do."

Katrina,

There may be those here that will disagree with me, but I don't find it unmasculine for men to be adopting what I'm suggesting at all, or unmasculine to be teaching your toddler's to be doing so, just for the hygienic aspect and the reasons you mentioned. ;)

Percy
10-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Percy, you're not odd!!

My BF and my ex both do this and a few friends have brought it up too, saying that their boyfriends do it too. And yep, these guys say it was the splashing you get when you pee standing up that made them sit too. So, from my perspective peeing sitting down is great - way cleaner bathroom!!

It did take some getting used to at first though since I'd never heard of men doing that. I'm guessing it's more common than we think, and think that men generally wouldn't talk about it...maybe it's a cultural taboo among men.


Thanks CabinFever!!!....Really appreciated your support and have to agree with ya on the cultural tabboo thing too. ;) :)

Rozie
10-01-2006, 01:44 PM
Percy, I'm with Dan on this. Why does it matter if you have found something that works for you? The "correctness" of what we do in total privacy in the bathroom is really a moot discussion. Seems to me its more information than people want and who cares if sitting is totally normal or the weirdest thing in the world? Its completely private and involves only you. Perhaps that is what you girlfriend was raising her eyebrows over...the blast of information she really didn't want! I certainly don't mean to seem unkind, but the issue is not what you do in there and what is correct, but who wants/needs to know.

Kristin
10-02-2006, 11:05 AM
Maybe Canadian toilets sit lower or higher than U.S. toilets, hence more splashing?

Either way, I never associated how a man pees with his masculinity. Seems pretty superficial of your female friend.

I'd be more concerned with the condition he leaves the bathroom for the next user.

Percy
10-02-2006, 02:20 PM
Percy, I'm with Dan on this. Why does it matter if you have found something that works for you? The "correctness" of what we do in total privacy in the bathroom is really a moot discussion. Seems to me its more information than people want and who cares if sitting is totally normal or the weirdest thing in the world? Its completely private and involves only you. Perhaps that is what you girlfriend was raising her eyebrows over...the blast of information she really didn't want! I certainly don't mean to seem unkind, but the issue is not what you do in there and what is correct, but who wants/needs to know.

Rozie,

At the risk of repeating myself, all I can say is that it does matter to me to know if other people feel the same way I do about this subject and from what I can see, it matter's to a few other people too, so it can't be a moot discussion. The only one's who think this is too much informatuion here is you and Dan. If you really don't like the subject of the thread, just ignore it. I want/ need to know and so do a few others apparently and they don't mind being open about it. The subject matter is such a commonality, I don't see why you would find it so invasive. No offence intended here Rozie. ;)

Percy
10-02-2006, 02:43 PM
Maybe Canadian toilets sit lower or higher than U.S. toilets, hence more splashing?

Either way, I never associated how a man pees with his masculinity. Seems pretty superficial of your female friend.

I'd be more concerned with the condition he leaves the bathroom for the next user.


Kristin,

In all fairness to my female friend, she never questioned my masculinity, nor do I believe she was being superficial. I think her reaction was more along the lines of what CabinFever said

It did take some getting used to at first though since I'd never heard of men doing that. I'm guessing it's more common than we think, and think that men generally wouldn't talk about it...maybe it's a cultural taboo among men.

This is what I meant when she said it was unnaturral. She had never heard of men doing this before I imagine because of the conditioning of our upbringing and thus her '"Huh?, Thats unnatural reaction. Her reaction just caught me by surprise and thats why I started this thread to see if other people would react the same way or not. ;)

Great point about the height of the toilet bowls btw and naturally your point about how hygienic we leave the bathroom for the next user. ;)

whiterose
10-02-2006, 02:47 PM
My ex-bf from college also urinated while sitting down. He is from Iran. I don't know if that is the culture there, or if his parents taught him that, or if that was his preference. Just didn't want Percy to think he is alone. :D

Percy
10-02-2006, 03:00 PM
My ex-bf from college also urinated while sitting down. He is from Iran. I don't know if that is the culture there, or if his parents taught him that, or if that was his preference. Just didn't want Percy to think he is alone. :D

Katrina,

Thank you! ;) :D

SoraNoYume
10-02-2006, 03:24 PM
My husband and I do not invade each other's privacy. He says to me that there is no reason to be in the same bathroom as we are voiding our bodily waste. We respect each other's privacy.

Percy, if your technique works for you, then that should be all that matters.

Different strokes for different folks. I say, be happy that you are healthy and have the capabilities to function whether standing or sitting.

Though, you are a considerate man, to think of the splash back and all that. :p

Sora

Rozie
10-02-2006, 07:45 PM
Just to clarify, Percy. I don't find the subject offensive, nor do I mind you posting the question at all. I guess I am still wondering why it matters though and I was just trying to offer a explanation for why your friend seemed to disapprove. Maybe it had nothing at all to do with the act and everything to do with the information.

irparis
10-02-2006, 08:48 PM
You know Percy...I wish women would bloody well sit on the toliet seat as well instead of tinkling all over the seat...believe me, they do it alot worst then men. So if you want to sit, by all means sit.

Nothing worst than going into the ladies room and having to bloody clean up after the chick that was there before me. I now carry Dial disinfectant to clean the seat because g/f has bloody issues about sitting down but can't clean up after herself. Its just gross. At least they should put the seat up and pee over the porcelin and when they finish put the seat down.


Paris

Percy
10-02-2006, 08:54 PM
You know Percy...I wish women would bloody well sit on the toliet seat as well instead of tinkling all over the seat...believe me, they do it alot worst then men. So if you want to sit, by all means sit.

Nothing worst than going into the ladies room and having to bloody clean up after the chick that was there before me. I now carry Dial disinfectant to clean the seat because g/f has bloody issues about sitting down but can't clean up after herself. Its just gross. At least they should put the seat up and pee over the porcelin and when they finish put the seat down.


Paris

LMSAOF....Paris that response was hilarious!!! Thanks for the laugh and your comments ;) :D

PinkCat
10-02-2006, 09:11 PM
It really bugs me when women crouch over the toilet seat because they are afraid of catching germs, and then they whiz all over the seat in the process. GROSS. :mad:

Those women are STUPID too... I saw a news item that said that all these people who crouch instead of sitting are at a much higher risk of getting bladder infections due to the fact that when crouching, you don't get all the urine out as thoroughly as when sitting. And that there are very few, if any, risks to sitting on the seat (I mean, I'm sorry ladies, but it's just your thighs, not any orifaces, that touch the seat... lay down some toilet paper, get some Selftec spray or something). So it's actually worse for your health to crouch. Not to mention the fact that it's bloody rude not to clean up after yourself.

Harrison
10-02-2006, 09:19 PM
It really bugs me when women crouch over the toilet seat because they are afraid of catching germs, and then they whiz all over the seat in the process. GROSS. :mad:

Those women are STUPID too... I saw a news item that said that all these people who crouch instead of sitting are at a much higher risk of getting bladder infections due to the fact that when crouching, you don't get all the urine out as thoroughly as when sitting. And that there are very few, if any, risks to sitting on the seat (I mean, I'm sorry ladies, but it's just your thighs, not any orifaces, that touch the seat... lay down some toilet paper, get some Selftec spray or something). So it's actually worse for your health to crouch. Not to mention the fact that it's bloody rude not to clean up after yourself.


LOL@ PinkCat and irparis...

It's nice to know that women are just as gross as us guys. Well... maybe "nice" is not the right word. LOL

It's interesting. Yes, I think crouching is stupid.

I understand not wanting your bare skin to touch a public seat; that's what layers of toilet paper are for, just as PinkCat says. I do the same when I sit on the commode.

Bella
10-02-2006, 09:34 PM
You wouldn't believe the gross things you see in women's restrooms.

I nearly ran out into a crowded Burger King once after the fastidious looking old lady who'd left such a mess smeared on the toilet seat. Do you think ranting at her in public would have shamed her enough into going back and cleaning up her own mess. And I know it was her, because I was waiting my turn. ICK. AND she didn't wash her hands.

Harrison
10-02-2006, 09:44 PM
LOL The things you see....

I think it boils down to home training. Either your parents get on your case about that stuff and it sinks in or it doesn't.

As long as there is tissue paper present, I could never leave "presents" behind for the next person. That's just so rude.

Peachy
10-03-2006, 12:37 AM
You know Percy...I wish women would bloody well sit on the toliet seat as well instead of tinkling all over the seat...believe me, they do it alot worst then men. So if you want to sit, by all means sit.

Nothing worst than going into the ladies room and having to bloody clean up after the chick that was there before me. I now carry Dial disinfectant to clean the seat because g/f has bloody issues about sitting down but can't clean up after herself. Its just gross. At least they should put the seat up and pee over the porcelin and when they finish put the seat down.


Paris

Hear, Hear, Paris!!!!! You said it !!! I have been thinking this all along. If women are going to squat over the toilet to pee, at least have the courtesy to lift the seat instead of peeing all over it!!!! That is just gross and disgusting! :mad:

sheila4pd
10-03-2006, 04:45 AM
The problem with not squating in public toilets is the possibility of getting (dry) piss on your tighs from the person(s) that went before you did. Sometimes the toilet is such a mess that putting toilet paper, spraying it or cleaning it is out of the question. Unless you are the janitor. The only thing you can do is lift the lid and not make things worse. Washing your hands is a must. I just wish that they would install those infrared fawcets and paper towel dispensers so I do not have to touch those surfaces. I always wonder about them when I am washing my hands.

Anjiana
10-03-2006, 03:38 PM
I am totally with irparis and Pinkcat, nothing makes me upset to use a public toilet then that. I always make sure before leaving the toilet that is all clean for the next to use.

huggies~

jesique
10-04-2006, 10:47 AM
I had always grown up thinking that men stood up when they peed...now that I live with a man though...I know it's different.

Alec sits when he pees for the most part..if I catch him standing up it's a real shocker.

We're very free about bathroom stuff...we leave the door open and talk to each other while on the pot...no biggie.

I always sit down on the toilet seat...i'm no good at hovering...and I just don't care about the germs. I saw a study that showed that a public toilet was actually cleaner than your cell phone...yet I don't see anyone wrapping their cell phones in toilet paper before using them!!! :D

Not to mention urine is sterile...you could drink it.

Nadine.

teddikat
10-04-2006, 07:13 PM
OH PERCY!!

This is a priceless thread!! I would love to print it off and tape it up in the bathroom at work......I always have to wipe the seat off and now since we have a couple of new male sgts, I also have to put paper towels on the floor so's my pant legs don't soak up the whatever on from the floor...

Disgusting pigs anyway!!


and in public restrooms I always place toilet paper on the seat..

Rozie
10-04-2006, 10:04 PM
This all brings to mind a great story that I just have to share. We had an 8 year old patient in our pediatric office, from whom we needed a uring sample. He insisted that he could pee in the cup all by himself and requested that his mother stay outside the room. A few minutes later he came out of the room, proudly, with a urine cup full of pee. The nurse went into the bathroom moments later and there was pee EVERYWHERE!! When she questioned the little boy about why there was pee in the bathroom, he apologized and explained that he did his best not to miss the cup....which, btw, he had placed in the middle of the floor!! :D :D

Percy
10-04-2006, 10:34 PM
I always sit down on the toilet seat...i'm no good at hovering...and I just don't care about the germs. I saw a study that showed that a public toilet was actually cleaner than your cell phone...yet I don't see anyone wrapping their cell phones in toilet paper before using them!!! :D

Nadine ...This was priceless!!!...Girl did I laugh!!!:p Tanks Lady! ;)


.

Percy
10-04-2006, 10:35 PM
This all brings to mind a great story that I just have to share. We had an 8 year old patient in our pediatric office, from whom we needed a uring sample. He insisted that he could pee in the cup all by himself and requested that his mother stay outside the room. A few minutes later he came out of the room, proudly, with a urine cup full of pee. The nurse went into the bathroom moments later and there was pee EVERYWHERE!! When she questioned the little boy about why there was pee in the bathroom, he apologized and explained that he did his best not to miss the cup....which, btw, he had placed in the middle of the floor!! :D :D

Great story Rozie!!! ;)

Percy
10-04-2006, 10:38 PM
OH PERCY!!

This is a priceless thread!! I would love to print it off and tape it up in the bathroom at work......I always have to wipe the seat off and now since we have a couple of new male sgts, I also have to put paper towels on the floor so's my pant legs don't soak up the whatever on from the floor...

Disgusting pigs anyway!!


and in public restrooms I always place toilet paper on the seat..


Teddi,

Well I'm glad this thread served a purpose! ;)

whiterose
10-05-2006, 05:14 AM
LOL Rozie, that story was so cute. :)

You know, I've never been one that felt that the paper on the toilet actually serves any purpose. If there are liquids on the seat, it's just going to soak through the paper and get on you anyway. Especially if it's that thin thing that some restrooms provide for you to use as a "shield."

If the mess on the seat is moist, you're outta luck even if you try to cover it in paper.

Now, the airport here has a really cool device. It's got a plastic covering over the seat. And if you want a fresh plastic sheath, you just press a button and voila, a new sheath comes out and covers the seat. Now, I have often wondered if those are truly new sheaths, but who knows? But, I doubt it'll catch on. Seems like it could be an expensive set up to me.

PinkCat
10-05-2006, 12:02 PM
I saw a study that showed that a public toilet was actually cleaner than your cell phone...yet I don't see anyone wrapping their cell phones in toilet paper before using them!!! :D

Not to mention urine is sterile...you could drink it.


Oh, that's awesome about the cell phone, I'll use that the next time my stupid friend is lecturing me about how gross it is to sit on public toilet seats!

The other day, right after I wrote my last post in this thread, I went to a theatre and went to the bathroom and the seat was totally covered, plus there was a puddle on the floor!!! :mad: Some stupid idiotic moron who obviously thinks her pathetic worthless life is in danger if she sits on the seat, and thinks it's perfectly okay to get her disgusting urine all over the seat and floor and thinks she's above cleaning up after her disgusting self!! ARGH!!!

Jesique, I am glad to hear urine is sterile... I think I'll stick to water though, haha! :D

jesique
10-05-2006, 02:27 PM
I think that even worse than peeing on the seat (which if I see it...I just wipe it up before sitting down) ....

Is when the nasty ladies at work don't make sure everything they've left behind has flushed!!!

I have a favorite stall at work (and I only work with like 10 ladies)...and I wish they would just learn that sometimes you have to double flush!!!

I put a note on my fav stall door today that told them to check before they leave....OR ELSE! :D

Nadine.

Chatterbox
10-05-2006, 08:43 PM
This is too weird. It seems that almost everytime I think about or see something, a thread gives me an opening to talk about it! :) I saw a product that is a tube that ladies can use to pee standing up! Neet. Can't post the website because it's selling stuff but the company is called BioRelief and the product is Travel Mate.

And if that's not weird enough, they have hookups for men and women that don't want to leave their seat to go to the bathroom! :eek: It's called Stadium Gal or Stadium Pal.

And, if you're wondering what the heck I was doing at the site in the first place .. you'll just have to keep wondering! :p

Percy
10-05-2006, 09:04 PM
This is too weird. It seems that almost everytime I think about or see something, a thread gives me an opening to talk about it! I saw a product that is a tube that ladies can use to pee standing up! Neet. Can't post the website because it's selling stuff but the company is called BioRelief and the product is Travel Mate.

And if that's not weird enough, they have hookups for men and women that don't want to leave their seat to go to the bathroom! :eek: It's called Stadium Gal or Stadium Pal.

And, if you're wondering what the heck I was doing at the site in the first place .. you'll just have to keep wondering!


ILMAOF!!!:p What will they think of next!:eek:

kittylane
10-09-2006, 01:20 PM
there must be people who deliberately leave disgusting messes in bathrooms, unless you are brain dead, how would you NOT know to flush the toilet? its like its intentional :eek:

i cant sit on toilet seats sorry, and i wipe up if its not already covered in wet pee. sheila is right, its worth the time to put paper around the seat as to not sit in others dried pee.

today i was in a bathroom so intolerable, i had to run out.

who are the people who do this??????? how do the live??????? SCARY.

in truth, this does not always happen but when it does, its memorable in a disqusting way. BLAAA.

kat7
10-20-2006, 12:26 AM
resurrecting this thread.....

almost every boyfriend i've ever had sat to pee after they felt comfortable being around me and peeing in front of me. but i must say i witnessed a bit of a shocker when i visited my ex recently.

he got up after we had sex, peed in the bathroom sink, and washed his thing off in the sink afterward. i just shook my head, but hey, it was HIS sink! :rolleyes:
i said, "hey, i'm not brushing my teeth in that sink!"

Harrison
10-20-2006, 03:27 AM
Gross, Kat.

There is someone who needs a bidet if he wants to be so particular.

kat7
10-20-2006, 07:59 AM
Hmmm......I thought a bidet was for the back end?

Percy
10-20-2006, 08:12 AM
Hmmm......I thought a bidet was for the back end?

LMAO! I know you were being factual...but that struck me as being funny. ;)

valuta
10-20-2006, 08:41 AM
What we need is big round hole in the floor and hanging safety harness above.

kat7
10-20-2006, 09:00 AM
is kinky~! ;)

satya
10-20-2006, 09:06 AM
omg kat7 i can't believe he did that. Some men can be really gross at times but I think that takes the cake.

kat7
10-20-2006, 12:02 PM
hey, i'm a nurse. nothing shocks me, but i was a little taken aback, i admit. not the washing part, but the peeing part...i mean, i guess, what does it really matter? it all goes down the drain, and as someone pointed out, pee is sterile.

Chatterbox
10-22-2006, 09:42 PM
- A bidet is for washing "the front" or "the back", Kat, however it is usually used by women for cleansing while having their period or before and after sex.

- I just read in Heloise that some people cut out plastic bags from the grocery store to slide over public toilet seats, which sounds like a good idea IF they are disposed of in the trash and NOT in the toilet! My favorites are those toilets that have a new plastic cover automatically cover the toilet seat for each new user.

- Percy, no offense to your girlfriend, but there are LOTS of people that are appalled by ANYTHING that's is different to them. I guarantee you that your sitting down on the toilet will not be the last thing you do that she finds appalling.

Chatterbox
10-22-2006, 09:51 PM
Pee is sterile. People trapped in collapsed buildings, mines, etc., have saved their lives and/or the lives of their children by drinking/sharing their urine. Some people drink it to enhance their immune system. If you have acne, putting your own urine on it, preferably the first urine of the morning, will cure it.

satya
10-22-2006, 10:00 PM
Pee may well be sterile but I don't want it in my sink.

I think most men sit & pee when at home..... just not out in public.

kat7
10-22-2006, 10:17 PM
thank you for the explanation. i have a "go bidet" added to my toilet, but I confess i've never used a "real" one. if someone tried to use my 'go bidet' to wash their male genitalia, there would be one heck of a mess in my bathroom, or lets just say, a stream of water a mile high.

dr. mehmet oz thinks americans are plagued by hemmorhoids because they don't use bidets.

Flyer
10-30-2006, 08:58 PM
Actually, whether a man or a woman stands up or squats seems to be dictated by cultural norms. In some countries men squat to urinate and women stand. Anthropologically speaking, I use this kind of stuff to illustrate cultural relativity to my students. It always gets their attention.

kat7
10-30-2006, 09:30 PM
You must fill us in then Flyer. In what country does a woman stand to pee? And what's the rationale?

Flyer
10-31-2006, 12:25 AM
Well, from the little I've read on it the Muslim religion requires men to squat for urinating as well as for defecation, and apparently, women in some African tribes, including the Sahara in North Africa and in Laos often stand to urinate. From what I've read, women can learn to urinate standing up if they take a slightly squating posture. The problem I see with standing is that you'd have to remove your clothing from the waste down, unless you were wearing a skirt. I have to admit that I harbor some jealousy over a man's ability to pee while standing. I do a lot of camping and it sure would be nice to just whip it out and pee.

The Muslim rationale is that the Prophet did it this way and has directed that this is the proper procedure for cleanliness. I have no idea what the rationale is for the standing women. I do know, however, that there is some problem with these African women who stand because they even stand up on the western style toilet seats to urinate and of course urinate all over the seats.

kindanice
10-31-2006, 04:47 AM
I'm with you. Camping and hiking with a male does spark some jealousy when it comes to peeing outdoors. He can whip it out and be done in seconds, while the three of us girls are trying to squat perfectly and hold garments outta the way while trying not to roll off of the side of a cliff...lol

satya
10-31-2006, 02:27 PM
In some countries toilets are not raised like western ones, they are flat on the ground therefore in those countries women must squat or stand over the seat. It's not hard to do.

Flyer
10-31-2006, 03:29 PM
I'm with you. Camping and hiking with a male does spark some jealousy when it comes to peeing outdoors. He can whip it out and be done in seconds, while the three of us girls are trying to squat perfectly and hold garments outta the way while trying not to roll off of the side of a cliff...lol

Yes! and I did roll off the side of the cliff injuring my shoulder. It took many months for my shoulder to heal, and when people asked how I injured myself I was always too embarassed to tell them the truth.

In some countries toilets are not raised like western ones, they are flat on the ground therefore in those countries women must squat or stand over the seat. It's not hard to do.

Satya--sounds like the voice of experience.


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