DaBollocks 10-11-2006, 10:21 AM Weeehoooo!! Old Dr. Laura is slammin' AGR's big time today!! Saying the YM's are usually opportunists using-freeloading the OW's for $$$ & the women are on some sorta desperate ego trip to feel young again. Also people in a 20 yr AGR really don't have anything in common. They just think they do. Brought up in different decades etc... says OW's are just making themselves look silly and should act their age & not date a surrogate son!! HOLY HONKERS!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
babybee 10-11-2006, 10:25 AM Supposing she's right?
sylverspice 10-11-2006, 10:27 AM Well, I can only speak for myself. I love a 73-year old woman and I swear, I love her for her.
Dr. Laura could be right, but she shouldn't talk like it's fact.
I want nothing out of the lady that I love other than be close to her and hold her in my arms.
kittylane 10-11-2006, 10:36 AM well what would she say about my marriage? i just moments got off the phone with my husband, we are close close friends. we may have been born in different decades but even in the bible it says that the past is past and all any of us have is today, tomorrow is God's business.
i work hard to look healthy and fit, i eat right, adam just called me to tell me he has high cholesterol. way high in fact! we were talking about it for a while.
dr. laura maybe is right about certain couples having very superficial relationships.
she is generalizing though, the saddest part is that she may be one of those strangers in passing that think its ok to slam my relationship because it does not look right to her.
to me, that makes her the one with the problem.
BellaLove 10-11-2006, 10:59 AM Dr. Laura ALWAYS slams AGR's!!!!!:mad: I can't believe how ignorant she is in that area!!! She has a lot of good things to say about relationships most of the time, but when she gets a caller who either has a younger woman or an older woman she doesn't hesitate to start with the smart-*** remarks!! I hate listening to her.....wish she didn't live in my town....:mad:
DaBollocks 10-11-2006, 11:00 AM Honk Honk!!
PinkCat 10-11-2006, 11:17 AM Don't worry about it. Dr. Laura has made a very successful career out of gross generalizations... I don't blame her at all, she has done very well using generalities to make money!
Her statements are possibly true in some cases, but don't sweat it.
Anyone got a link to what she's supposed to have said then?
I'd like to send her an email, or a letter or something too.
skatergirl 10-11-2006, 12:06 PM she is very clinical...not very romantic. i believe love comes in all shapes, sizes and ages.
dr. Laura is not God after all and she has plenty of issues of her own.
i wonder what she'd do if a handsome young man took interest in her? hmmmmmmmm. ;)
LADave 10-11-2006, 12:31 PM Dr. Laura ALWAYS slams AGR's!!!!!:mad: I hate listening to her.....wish she didn't live in my town....:mad:
She lives in your town? I thought it was I who had the misfortune to share MY town with the Wicked Witch of the West!:p
sylverspice 10-11-2006, 12:41 PM she is very clinical...not very romantic. i believe love comes in all shapes, sizes and ages.
dr. Laura is not God after all and she has plenty of issues of her own.
i wonder what she'd do if a handsome young man took interest in her? hmmmmmmmm. ;)
Well put.
She's just jealous.
The woman I love is prettier anyway, and she's 73!;)
Angel 10-11-2006, 12:53 PM Agreed.
Those who have no understanding of love can not rationalize something with no borders.
People with love insecurities don't pick and choose certain things. So I'm sure she secretly hates many different types of relationships but won't verbally do it for fear of a backlash. These people hate all love that doesn't match their own.
I have a dear friend who prior to my relationship was very anti-AG. It took her to see two people in the relationship to understand that it can and does work.
Some people live in very cramped quarters. Small boxes for small minds. Why waste space, lol. :D
louisianagirl 10-11-2006, 01:00 PM i wonder what she'd do if a handsome young man took interest in her? hmmmmmmmm. ;)
Maybe that's the problem for her: the handsome young ones take one look at her and run away and she's envious - hahahahaha!!
Harrison 10-11-2006, 01:29 PM she is very clinical...not very romantic. i believe love comes in all shapes, sizes and ages.
dr. Laura is not God after all and she has plenty of issues of her own.
i wonder what she'd do if a handsome young man took interest in her? hmmmmmmmm. ;)
Good call, Skater...
My prediction: Assuming she's single, she would be all over that stuff like white on rice. :D
And then you'd notice a sudden absence of anti-AGR slams on her program...
LOL :D
BellaLove 10-11-2006, 01:31 PM She lives in your town? I thought it was I who had the misfortune to share MY town with the Wicked Witch of the West!:p
Ha!!Ha!!
She probably has several homes in CA. She recently bought a home here in Montecito.......for about 8.5 mill. :rolleyes: Such a humble lady.....
SaltwaterBlues 10-11-2006, 01:49 PM The problem with slamming AGRs is that one must necessarily define what an AGR is.
Is it 5 years or 10? If not 10 then is 15 ok. If 15 is ok but 16 is not just how does one come to that conclusion without an arbitrarily adopted number? What is the foundation for establishment?
Dr. Laura is grasping at straws. Most self-proclaimed people of that ilk are money grubbers else the arbitrarily adopted number would not be so easily assailable.
DaBollocks 10-11-2006, 01:56 PM Honk Honk!!
BellaLove 10-11-2006, 02:06 PM The problem with slamming AGRs is that one must necessarily define what an AGR is.
Is it 5 years or 10? If not 10 then is 15 ok. If 15 is ok but 16 is not just how does one come to that conclusion without an arbitrarily adopted number? What is the foundation for establishment?
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Exactly!! People get to huffy and puffy about AGRs, but they can't even define what one is! :rolleyes:
mnorman3 10-11-2006, 02:13 PM Who gives a flying poop what she thinks? Who died and made her God of all that is right and wrong. PULEASE.
Enigma6 10-11-2006, 02:29 PM A great doctor always does their research first. I'm just not a fan of judgemental, bias and ignorant generalizations anymore...:mad:
Check the station....change the channel! :p
SaltwaterBlues 10-11-2006, 02:30 PM Who died and made her God of all that is right and wrong.
Her Publisher?:eek: ;) :rolleyes:
DaBollocks 10-11-2006, 02:34 PM HONK!! Salt's on a roll!!I'm here 'til Tues, try the veal!! HEEHAW!! :p :cool:
PinkCat 10-11-2006, 02:38 PM Yeah, seriously, who cares what she thinks?
She's equally against single mothers and a ton of other groups.
It's not just OW/YM relationships she is against, either. Apparently on one of her shows she went off on a guy dating a woman 15 years his junior... and then later made some comment about Larry King and his "lovely wife" and how they were such great friends of hers... umm... isn't his wife like 45 years younger than he is??? If you ask me, Larry King does more damage for age gap relationships than anyone, because looking at him with his wife.... shudder... as if it's not a total trophy deal.
BellaLove 10-11-2006, 03:02 PM Ah! That reminds me. She's against natural medicine as well.
I remember she had a caller once who was debating on whether or not to treat her illness with herbs and oriental medicine or to go with the western medicine. WELL, DR. LAURA made it CLEAR on her radio show that western medicine is the ONLY way to go and that all the so-called 'natural' or 'homeopathic' methods are bunch of crap! Ha! She's so full of crap it isn't even funny....:p
Kristin 10-11-2006, 03:08 PM If you ask me, Larry King does more damage for age gap relationships than anyone, because looking at him with his wife.... shudder... as if it's not a total trophy deal.
OK, now Pink, I have to call you out on this one. We have younger women who are here just for this kind of attitude!;)
They got married in 1997 (almost 10 years ago) when she was 37 and he was 63 and they have 2 kids together. While it IS something like his 7th marriage, it is her 3rd!
Darlin', you should know better than to make sweeping generalizations and assumptions like that about an age gap relationship! :p
But Dr. Laura's acceptance of their relationship and condemnation of OW/YM or any OTHER AGRs is hypocritical.
DaBollocks 10-11-2006, 03:09 PM Anybody SHACKIN' UP?!! Oh boy!! A Dr. Laura NO NO!! HONK!! :p :D
louisianagirl 10-11-2006, 04:02 PM Anybody SHACKIN' UP?!! Oh boy!! A Dr. Laura NO NO!! HONK!! :p :D
My mom's been shacking up with her younger boyfriend for 13 years - she's 64 (ya'll didn't hear that from me) and he's 46 :eek: Don't tell Dr. Laura!
LADave 10-11-2006, 04:07 PM My mom's been shacking up with her younger boyfriend for 13 years - she's 64 (ya'll didn't hear that from me) and he's 46 :eek: Don't tell Dr. Laura!
Good taste runs in the family!:D
satya 10-11-2006, 04:17 PM One question..... who is Dr Laura?
If it's any consolation her wisdom hasn't reached Aussie shores.
BellaLove 10-11-2006, 04:32 PM One question..... who is Dr Laura?
If it's any consolation her wisdom hasn't reached Aussie shores.
Consider yourselves lucky!! :p :D
catlover 10-11-2006, 09:03 PM I believe there was some scandal a few years back where some PORN she did came out....
The woman is not only a hypocrite, but an ignorant one at that-I don't believe her Dr. title is a Medical Dr. title anyway--in fact, is she even a 'real' PhD-or a mail order one?
Rozie 10-11-2006, 09:25 PM she is very clinical
Clinical she's NOT. For something to be clinical it has to be based on observation and data. Opinionated she is! Entrepreneurial she is!! Biased...she nails that one too! If she actually had a degree and some advanced education in her field of "study" I might listen to her, but basically folks, she is an irritating talk show jockie and nothing more. Sadly for us, there are people out there who believe she is legitimate. :(
Rozie 10-11-2006, 09:55 PM Addendum: I stand corrected. I looked up her educaional background on her website. She has a masters and a PhD in physiology (basically the biology of living organisms and for some reason I remember it is exercise physiology...might be wrong on that.) She has a masters degree in counseling; that is her only advanced training in any field of psychology. Her site calls it post doctoral training, but that is misleading because post doctoral usually means further training in the field in which one earned their doctorate. So if she took courses and did more work in physiology, she could call THAT post doctoral....but hey, that wouldn't look so good on her website! To get her MFCC (masters in family and child counseling) she basically had to have a bachelors degree in an applied science. Not that impressive. And 12 years of clinical practice as a marriage and family counselor makes her a neophyte in professional terms. So there you have it!!
Dr. Laura is a shrewd business woman; she knows we love to hate her! (And boy, do I hate her!!)
These types get cracker-jack degrees from mail-order houses.
Like relationship "experts" such as John Gray and Barbara DeAngelis. Their PhD's came from some bogus universities who aren't even accredited....
Give me a break......and we buy their books and call them experts in this country. Such a joke!
louisianagirl 10-12-2006, 03:36 AM And 12 years of clinical practice as a marriage and family counselor makes her a neophyte in professional terms. So there you have it!!
OMG Rozie! I also have a masters in clinical counseling psychology (from Cal. State Univ. at Hayward - maybe Dr. Laura and I were in the same program haha) and I also have 12 years experience as an MFCC (marriage, family and child counselor), so can I have my own talk show?? Haha, it's so funny, cause I don't even take my own advice, in fact that's why I give it away cause I'm not using it anyway. I'm still attending Miss Daisie's School for Slow Learners; Dr. Laura can come attend with me and since she's so disadvantaged, she can go on a special needs scholarship!!! :eek:
waterfall 10-12-2006, 05:37 AM Even worse, are the people who hear these so called experts and believe them, pointing to them as proof. "But Dr Laura said it's not gonna work!!!!"
Her and Dr Phil. What an idiot that one is, I've got a friend who loves him and gave me a book by him when my marraige was falling apart. I don't think I even cracked it open; sold it at a yard sale. With the accompanying workbook. Funny, my friend James was in my house when I was sorting through stuff, before it was sold, my ex was downstairs, and I held up the book and very dry & sarcastically: "wanna buy a book? cheap! .....no guarantees, though" (as I was prepping for my divorce/house sale!!) haha. It was titiled something about saving the marraige.:p
SaltwaterBlues 10-12-2006, 07:33 AM Clinical she's NOT.
Sure she is. What else would you call that clinical primordial test material matter in the petrie dish?:cool:
yellowrose 10-12-2006, 09:17 AM Like relationship "experts" such as John Gray and Barbara DeAngelis.These two "EXPERTS" were MARRIED to each other and divorced. So much for knowing how to have a good relationship. :D
Rozie 10-12-2006, 03:41 PM OMG Rozie! I also have a masters in clinical counseling psychology (from Cal. State Univ. at Hayward - maybe Dr. Laura and I were in the same program haha) and I also have 12 years experience as an MFCC (marriage, family and child counselor), so can I have my own talk show??
Louisianagirl, you are more attractive, just as experienced (probably moreso, because you are closer to your counseling experience than she is).....I say GO FOR IT!! I might just listen to you! ;)
Polly 10-12-2006, 07:57 PM I would have to see a lot of data before I could agree with her broad generalizations. Some of them could possibly be true, others could just be her own theory.
I believe ym are opportunists. Robin allowed himself the opportunity to experience being loved unconditionally and completely, like he'd never been loved before in his whole life, by someone 16 years older. He allowed himself the opportunity to fall in love and go through the good and bad of an AGR with a woman he found absolutely beautiful. I guess I'm an opportunist too. I allowed myself the opportunity to fall in love with him, get past the age gap, and commit to this relationship for better or worse.
Was Robin after money? Well, if I had any, I'd sure share it, but I don't, so that takes care of that issue! :D
Sexual gratification? After seven years (minus the six-month break-up) we're still blowing eachother away! I guess we're both guilty of being opportunists in that area too! Maybe being an opportunist isn't always a bad thing?
Dr. Laura has always struck me as a very highly opinionated, rigid person. It's all black and white, no gray areas for her. That's fine for people who are mindless sheep, and need to be led because they're so inept at taking charge of their own lives, but for mentally, emotionally healthy people who are confident in their own choices, she just isn't very effective, and in fact, is pretty much unnecessary.
I agree with her that a two-parent family is better than a single one (although sometimes being a single parent can't be helped). The addiction of drugs or alcohol is never good. Monogamous partners shouldn't cheat on eachother at all costs. Honesty is the best policy. I mean, these are pretty basic things that emotionally healthy people know already.
When she goes into tirades about gays or AGR's or religious issues, THAT'S when it becomes pure OPINION with no basis for fact. If she came to me and said, "I have studied 1,000 AGR's over a period of ten years, and these are my findings..." I'd be interested. Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my "opportunistic" relationship! :D
legallyblonde 10-12-2006, 08:19 PM I believe she suffers from a mix of disorders with borderline, narcissistic and hystrionic components. She has limited expertise and is leading the public to believe that she is a psychology Phd when in fact her Phd is in physiology. Bull hooey! She's the end result of some fancy marketing and is only good for entertainment value. In short, I pay no attention to what she says.
Ali
Well, whatever else you can say about her, she did do her part for internet porn. Maybe that was part of developing her street credentials?
Can't say I listened to her more than a few times. That's all it took. . . My Nazi Christian fundamentalist sister-in-law loves her. (I'd love to give them both one way tickets to Antartica.)
Anyway, Dr L just isn't very interesting, I mean, except for the internet pics. :eek:
chrisy 10-13-2006, 12:30 AM We cannot paint life with broad strokes of a brush. Two years ago, I would have never envisioned myself with a YM - even one as intelligent, absolutely sexy, ambitious as T. "Impossible" - I would have said with the utmost conviction - "not my cup of tea" - actually believing it.
We all say stupid things when we don't know of what we speak. Dr. Laura makes this mistake.
Enamour 10-13-2006, 03:37 AM Weeehoooo!! Old Dr. Laura is slammin' AGR's big time today!! Saying the YM's are usually opportunists using-freeloading the OW's for $$$ & the women are on some sorta desperate ego trip to feel young again. Also people in a 20 yr AGR really don't have anything in common. They just think they do. Brought up in different decades etc... says OW's are just making themselves look silly and should act their age & not date a surrogate son!! HOLY HONKERS!!
Guess she's basing herself on the sad experiences of people like me, altho I'm not sure age has anything to do with it (aren't we all opportunists to some extent) :( Have to disagree with the nothing in common statement tho. That part is so untrue. I'm surrounded with friends of all ages but they all have one thing in common: they're young at heart.
earl_wh 10-13-2006, 04:54 AM Here is the title of "Dr." Laura's dissertation:
"Effects of Insulin on 3-0 Methylglucose Transport in Isolated Rat Adipocytes." which I gather has something to do with the effect of insulin on sugar transport in rat fat cells. The next time anybody has got a question dealing with the effect of insulin on a rat's fat cells, they should probably call her, as she might actually know something about it. But on issues dealing with relationships and psychology, she's a crackpot.
She hates age-gap relationships, she hates single mothers, she hates gays and lesbians, she HATES period. I had occasion to drive across the country and back last spring and early summer in a car with a broken CD player, and in many areas, there's only one radio station. On a couple of occasions, she happened to be on it, so I got my first real exposure to her. I was astounded at the way she belittled callers who were in obvious emotional pain, and at her generally opinionated, unfeeling attitudes. I was so astounded that I looked her up, and found out about her doctorate.
The reason I put "Dr." in quotes is that she holds herself and her radio show out as having something to do with counseling or psychology, and her doctorate has nothing whatsoever to do with them. It would be like me hosting a radio show dishing out medical advice, and calling it the "Dr. Earl Show." and then saying, "Well, I'm a doctor -- I really have a Juris Doctor [law] degree." Whether or not this kind of thing is technically fraud, it's a lot closer to the line than anybody I'd ever trust would come, and as far as I'm concerned, it makes everything else about her suspect.
Bella 10-13-2006, 05:58 AM Dr. Laura sucks.
But she IS her kid's mom.
Too bad her own mother died all alone, laid dead for days, and hadn't seen her own daughter in years.
louisianagirl 10-13-2006, 07:24 AM Louisianagirl, you are more attractive, just as experienced (probably moreso, because you are closer to your counseling experience than she is).....I say GO FOR IT!! I might just listen to you! ;)
Thanks Rozie, but the really great therapists know better than to give advice. Friends give advice, but when you are paying good money to someone to help you deal with a problem, you should expect more.
Therapists know the best way to help is to let people develop their own solutions and to do their own thinking. Giving advice is not helping someone stand on their own feet, and worse, Dr. Laura lectures and condemns - this is not psychotherapy; it's entertainment for people who have the same mindset as her and who enjoy belittling others.:mad:
Rozie 10-13-2006, 06:09 PM Dr. Laura lectures and condemns - this is not psychotherapy; it's entertainment for people who have the same mindset as her and who enjoy belittling others.
Well said, Louisianagirl!!
Dr. Laura sucks.
But she IS her kid's mom.
Too bad her own mother died all alone, laid dead for days, and hadn't seen her own daughter in years.
ROTFLMAO. I'm trying not to, because it's really not funny, but, OMG. . . Glad I wasn't taking a drink of anything when I read that. . .
Kind of puts things in perspective. . .
LiquidMidnight 10-16-2006, 12:24 PM Erikson held no degree what so ever, yet I think that his theory is very relevant and important. Dr. Laura, on the other hand, is on the same level as Rush Limbaugh and Sylvia Brown: She offers controversy and smoke and mirrors without any substance. Trying to pass herself off a legitimate psychologist is a crime against the field of study and I'm surprised the APA hasn't roasted her *** because of it.
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