Bella_D 05-09-2007, 10:43 PM This is really embarrassing to write down, but when I was 35, I remember looking in the mirror and noticing, for the first time, that there is hair growing above my upper lip!!. Its not not like a don't check myself everyday either, but for some reason I never noticed before!!!
And then I started to panic! Holy Crapola-I really have an actual mustache!!!!! A MUSTACHE- help!!!
How long had it been there? Had anyone else noticed? Gawd, a least its blonde!!!
So I did all sorts of things to annialate this vile adomination and slight to my feminity, and its long gone. I now check my face out carefully for hair all the time-like any wild eyebrow hairs and I'm an obsessive `plucker'.
Well, now when I'm out I *really* notice when an otherwise femine lady has a mustache or beard. Don't laugh! There women who have beards! And they are dark! And there was this pretty girl serving us at a restaurant last week, and she had a mole near her nose, with these 3 really long, wiry hairs coming out of it.
The thing is, I want to grab these people and cuddle them and teach them all about plucking! But I don't want to embarrass anyone either.
Is it possible, that like me, some ladies really haven't noticed their `extra hair' yet? Or do some people find it aesethically pleasing, like a cultural thing? Or maybe I should mind my own business.
sheila4pd 05-09-2007, 10:50 PM There is a saying here
"Mujer con bozo, rabo sabroso"
"Woman with fuzz, flavorful tail"
I guess that is supposed to make women with mustache feel better, I don't know. :confused: Hispanic men have no problem towards facial fuzz, I guess maybe there is some truth in the flavorful tail saying.
Bella_D 05-09-2007, 10:53 PM There is a saying here
"Mujer con bozo, rabo sabroso"
"Woman with fuzz, flavorful tail"
I guess that is supposed to make women with mustache feel better, I don't know. :confused: Hispanic men have no problem towards facial fuzz, I guess maybe there is some truth in the flavorful tail saying.
LOL. I like that saying. What does `flavorful tail' mean?
sheila4pd 05-09-2007, 11:01 PM LOL. I like that saying. What does `flavorful tail' mean?
It means tasty "kitty". :blush:
Bella_D 05-09-2007, 11:13 PM Hahahha! Shiela thanks for that (except for the mental picture than I'm now trying to get out my head, lol:)
People from Panama have a great attitude:)
sheila4pd 05-09-2007, 11:16 PM Hahahha! Shiela thanks for that (except for the mental picture than I'm now trying to get out my head, lol:)
People from Panama have a great attitude:)
LOL, yes! we are in the top 10 happiest countries in the world!
CaliDude26 05-10-2007, 01:19 AM There is a saying here
"Mujer con bozo, rabo sabroso"
"Woman with fuzz, flavorful tail"
I guess that is supposed to make women with mustache feel better, I don't know. :confused: Hispanic men have no problem towards facial fuzz, I guess maybe there is some truth in the flavorful tail saying.
What the hell you mean hispanic men have no problem towards facial hair you nuts or something speak for yourself. Im hispanic and that **** is a huge turn off LOL. Dont try to say hispanic men have no problem with that maybe the ones you have been with :D
Alawiy 05-10-2007, 01:53 AM In my experience, younger men who have very little facial hair are the ones that have a problem with the women's facial hair. Otherwise, the men with lots of facial and body hair almost don't even notice it on a woman unless the woman has as much as the man.
I wish I know how to get rid of mine though. Interesting that in Islam, there are schools of interpretation that teach that it's wrong for a woman to pluck (so traditionally people got rid of it through stringing or whatever you call it). I did not know about this "rule" until after I was about 40 myself, so had long been plucking. Unfortunately, I have found that the more I pluck, the more it all grows back (and thicker, too).. ugh!
Creams I'm allergic to and don't work anyway. I do NOT want to shave (i have heard some women do this). I'm settling for plucking now. My only consolation is that I learned some time back that almost all women have the same problem at some time in their lives. It's just that it's so embarrassing, nobody wants to talk about it.
Chamaeleon 05-10-2007, 02:02 AM lol i love you guys...the kitty line lol was priceless..love it all!
anyway I have a cousin who has a dark stache and lil beard she waxes alot...but somedays she just says stick it...just like i feel when i shave my legs sometimes i just wanna flip off my bic razor...love ya bella! dont worry girl..i know alot with this prob..your still beautiful!
Bella_D 05-10-2007, 02:11 AM Well Yay! At least we're talking about it Naznoor!. (and Chamaeleon I love you too!)
Naznoor, I think it is better when people are accepted as they are/ appear naturally so I think your religion has a lot of wisdom. Its just so hard to feel good about a Mo if you've got one yourself in a culture that does not share that view.
Calidude I don't care about what you find attractive because I'm already taken.
sheila4pd 05-10-2007, 03:12 AM What the hell you mean hispanic men have no problem towards facial hair you nuts or something speak for yourself. Im hispanic and that **** is a huge turn off LOL. Dont try to say hispanic men have no problem with that maybe the ones you have been with :D
Wow, that was soooooooo rude, dude. Rude to me and rude to the OP. You are definitely not a good representative of hispanics who are normally very gallant and curteous with women. :D
Bella_D 05-10-2007, 03:21 AM Wow, that was soooooooo rude, dude. Rude to me and rude to the OP. You are definitely not a good representative of hispanics who are normally very gallant and curteous with women. :D
Maybe hes just upset that we have hair
CaliDude26 05-10-2007, 03:26 AM Hair on a womans face is very disgusting, its not my fault you are offended.:rolleyes:
Bella_D 05-10-2007, 03:38 AM I'm not offended:) I feel the same way about facial hair on me.
I think you're rude though. Its not my fault if that offends you.
CaliDude26 05-10-2007, 03:49 AM Nothing rude about it your just mad because I say the truth. But hey power to your moustache :D
sheila4pd 05-10-2007, 03:49 AM With that personality he probably can't get even get a date with a circus bearded woman. :rofl:
CaliDude26 05-10-2007, 03:54 AM With that personality he probably can't get even get a date with a circus bearded woman. :rofl:
^^ Didnt know you worked at the circus ok enough already you guys are making me laugh too hard. :D
Bella_D 05-10-2007, 03:59 AM LOL. I'm not mad at you. I'm just observing that you are a very rude.
Are you feeling bad about something tonight Calidude? Seriously, I only pick fights on the net when I'm feeling bad in some way. Are you the same way or do like being confrontational? Anyway I hope you are feeling ok.
Sorry for saying you are 2:) I like joking with Sheila; she has a great sense of humour.
sheila4pd 05-10-2007, 04:14 AM I think the problem with CaliDude is he meant to spell his screen name as CaliRude, but hit the wrong key. :giggle:
More power to your shallowness Dude. Have fun!
I am outta this thread before the jokes get out of hand. I will be laying on the white sands of Playa Blanca beach tomorrow.
Bella_D 05-10-2007, 04:44 AM I think the problem with CaliDude is he meant to spell his screen name as CaliRude, but hit the wrong key. :giggle:
More power to your shallowness Dude. Have fun!
I am outta this thread before the jokes get out of hand. I will be laying on the white sands of Playa Blanca beach tomorrow.
Hahhaha! You've been so much fun tonight Sheila:) I wish I could be on the sand beside you tomorrow!! (we wouldn't spend tooo much of the day laughing at Cali)
whiterose 05-10-2007, 05:13 AM Umm, ok, I truly can't tell if some of what has been posted on this thread in terms of what appears like a tiff was really in jest or not, but just wanted to post a reminder about our rule of treating everyone respectfully.
Anyway, let's keep personal disagreements out of this thread and stick to the discussion at hand, please.
Bella_D 05-11-2007, 12:27 AM Thanks whiterose!
This turned into a very funny thread!
eponavet 05-11-2007, 08:35 AM In my experience, younger men who have very little facial hair are the ones that have a problem with the women's facial hair. Otherwise, the men with lots of facial and body hair almost don't even notice it on a woman unless the woman has as much as the man.
I wish I know how to get rid of mine though. Interesting that in Islam, there are schools of interpretation that teach that it's wrong for a woman to pluck (so traditionally people got rid of it through stringing or whatever you call it). I did not know about this "rule" until after I was about 40 myself, so had long been plucking. Unfortunately, I have found that the more I pluck, the more it all grows back (and thicker, too).. ugh!
Creams I'm allergic to and don't work anyway. I do NOT want to shave (i have heard some women do this). I'm settling for plucking now. My only consolation is that I learned some time back that almost all women have the same problem at some time in their lives. It's just that it's so embarrassing, nobody wants to talk about it.
I just found this thread...and had been wanting to post about this issue, BUT was too embarrassed....like Naznoor said and Calidude feebly reinforced (although I actually feel BETTER after his response, b/c there is no way to make me stand up and say "hey, who cares what your dumb *** thinks...I pluck too and I am NOT disgusting!" faster than some jerk spouting off about something that IS embarrassing.
Anyway, my sister and I joke about it, because what else can we do?? WE blame our mom, who blames her grandma....I guess more people deal with it than I believed. But, I have accepted that tweezers are my best friend - I've thought about laser, but I don't know....
It's funny though, I was scared it would turn off my ym...I hemmed and hawed before our first LONG visit, cuz I pluck pretty reguarly (lol...I'm giggling b/c I NEVER talk about this!). I made it into this HUGE thing I didn't want to tell him....when I finally told him, he was so sweet and cute and played aroud, but in a very supportive way. The end result was actually the PET NAME he calls me.....LOL..."kitty" (OMG....whiskers and all....but at the time, it was sweet and it stuck!) Now I love being called kitty and I can pluck away, even when he is here!! :w00t:
Chamaeleon 05-11-2007, 09:03 AM ^^ Didnt know you worked at the circus ok enough already you guys are making me laugh too hard. :D
WOW calidude there is ways to say something without coming off as a pompous person..you could choose your words wisely instead..
Most women dont like men who come off as arrogent thats more unattractive then a moustache anyday
Kare Bear 05-11-2007, 10:44 AM One word. Electrolysis! It takes about 18 months for the hair to cycle all the way through, but I did this, and don't regret it one little bit. I only regret that I waited so long to do it!
eponavet 05-11-2007, 11:21 AM One word. Electrolysis! It takes about 18 months for the hair to cycle all the way through, but I did this, and don't regret it one little bit. I only regret that I waited so long to do it!
I've thought about this....but I don't know about the cost and time, as far as actually going every week or whatever to get it done. Plus, I was told it only works on dark hairs. I have some of those, but I also have light ones, so I dunno if it would be the best option for me. I'll ask my dermatologist though, b/c I wouldn't mind NOT having my little plucking ritual.... :o
Inahnia 05-11-2007, 02:10 PM Welcome to the wonderful world of getting older. Stuff your mother forgot to tell you . :rolleyes:
Electrolysis works on any hair, the color is unimportant. As I understand it, it destroys the hair at the root and it doesn't grow back at all, but we have so many follicles that it takes a long time to get rid of them all in any area.
Science Goddess 05-11-2007, 08:59 PM My facial 'fur' is blonde so it doesn't show that much but I do have my upper lip waxed now and then. I don't pluck anything (except an occasional stray brow). I have my brows waxed, and will never go back to plucking. What a pain, in more ways than one.
I have one stupid dark hair that grows on my face but it's been there for years so I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with growing older.
If I had several, I would definitely look into electrolysis. Seems well worth it. If you have a lot of fur on your face and don't like it, my esthetician says that full face waxing is very common these days. That, too, seems worth it. I guess personally, I can't fathom standing in front of the mirror and pluck, pluck, plucking all the time.
I think, Bella-D, that not every woman is bothered by a little hair on their upper lip or face and that's why they don't pluck or wax.
I think that not all women notice those little dark hairs growing out of their faces. One of my very best friends has some that grow on the side of her face. I love her to death but she's super sensitive, and I never could figure out how to tell her! (YEARS ago she asked me if she looked like she'd put on weight...or if the pants she had on made her look fat...something like that...and I made the mistake of telling her the truth...and she was made at me for a couple of days!) Someone must have told her because those hairs are no longer there.
Or, maybe you notice the hairs on others in-between their plucking/waxing?
Bella_D 05-12-2007, 04:41 AM WOW calidude there is ways to say something without coming off as a pompous person..you could choose your words wisely instead..
Most women dont like men who come off as arrogent thats more unattractive then a moustache anyday
LOL. Go Chamaeleon!
Bella_D 05-12-2007, 04:47 AM Welcome to the wonderful world of getting older. Stuff your mother forgot to tell you . :rolleyes:
Electrolysis works on any hair, the color is unimportant. As I understand it, it destroys the hair at the root and it doesn't grow back at all, but we have so many follicles that it takes a long time to get rid of them all in any area.
Thankyou so much for your reassurance Inahnia:) I might try electrolisis one day to see how it works out. I'm weird I guess, in that I kind of enjoy plucking and grooming in general. I can't explain why though:).
Bella_D 05-12-2007, 05:01 AM My facial 'fur' is blonde so it doesn't show that much but I do have my upper lip waxed now and then. I don't pluck anything (except an occasional stray brow). I have my brows waxed, and will never go back to plucking. What a pain, in more ways than one.
I have one stupid dark hair that grows on my face but it's been there for years so I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with growing older.
If I had several, I would definitely look into electrolysis. Seems well worth it. If you have a lot of fur on your face and don't like it, my esthetician says that full face waxing is very common these days. That, too, seems worth it. I guess personally, I can't fathom standing in front of the mirror and pluck, pluck, plucking all the time.
I think, Bella-D, that not every woman is bothered by a little hair on their upper lip or face and that's why they don't pluck or wax.
I think that not all women notice those little dark hairs growing out of their faces. One of my very best friends has some that grow on the side of her face. I love her to death but she's super sensitive, and I never could figure out how to tell her! (YEARS ago she asked me if she looked like she'd put on weight...or if the pants she had on made her look fat...something like that...and I made the mistake of telling her the truth...and she was made at me for a couple of days!) Someone must have told her because those hairs are no longer there.
Or, maybe you notice the hairs on others in-between their plucking/waxing?
Thanks Science Goddess; I really enjoyed reading your post -wise, and funny as usual. You are so wonderful SG:)
I don't think I could ever tell anyone about their facial hair; not really. For starters, I think some women are just stronger than me, which I totally respect; and there are others who take pride in just looking the way women from their country are supposed to look. I guess I wonder about women when i see something as blantant as fuzzy dark beard.(and I have, recently!!!)...is she a strong lady (and good on her!) or has noone ever told her?
Evonavet: Calidudes response oddly made me feel less self conscious too.
Alawiy 05-12-2007, 05:59 AM Well Yay! At least we're talking about it Naznoor!. (and Chamaeleon I love you too!)
Naznoor, I think it is better when people are accepted as they are/ appear naturally so I think your religion has a lot of wisdom. Its just so hard to feel good about a Mo if you've got one yourself in a culture that does not share that view.
Calidude I don't care about what you find attractive because I'm already taken.
It does have a lot of wisdom and it would be wonderful if people were just accepted the way they are. In Islam, the hair plucking thing is coming from outside sources, not the Qur'an. Just like a man's beard in Islam - that is also coming from something that the Prophet Muhammad happened to say, not what is put in the "criterion" or "guidance" of the Qur'an.
Some men can't grow facial hair, so there is always the debate among muslims over whether it's obligatory to grow a beard or not simply based on the fact that Muhammad once told men how to LIMIT the length of their beards to no longer than a fistful.
Similarly, there is one story about Muhammad having said that he thought women plucking was abominable or something on that order. If you look into history though, at that time, there was a certain trend among some women to completely remove all of their eyebrows by plucking. I think that's what he was referring to (and I think that's kind of creepy, too). That's quite likely a personal opinion he had and not any kind of a religious edict, but some muslims take every single thing that he did and said to be obligatory for every muslim, too (even when the Qur'an specifically says that such and such is ONLY for so and so to have to follow).
One time Muhammad gave advice to a man about an agricultural matter. The man was concerned about how his dates were growing (or not). Muhammad told him to do thus and such, and the man asked, "are you speaking as Muhammad, the Prophet? Or Muhammad, the son of ..." He indicated it was not a prophetic statement, and so the man said "then I think it should be done this way because..." (and went on to explain the science). The farmer was right and Muhammad deferred to his judgment and expertise. Had the farmer taken Muhammad's advice on that particular matter, the dates would not have grown as well as they eventually did. This is one example of how differences among Muslim beliefs are formed and followed.
With the plucking and leaving things "natural", in Islam, I think it's just a matter of which school of thought you're following, which interpretation of all the auxilliary stories outside of the Qur'an. There are other ancient traditions and other stories outside of the Qur'an and the prophetic revelations that have to do with cutting fingernails, or shaving pubic and underarm hair, for example, which would contradict any "religious" teaching that we should always leave everything naturally the way it is.
I cannot think of any verse in the Qur'an that makes it obligatory to leave it all as it is. But you could infer, from the emphasis on things that are just so much more important than facial hair, that the only thing anyone should ever be concerned about is their level of piety and the good deeds that they for one another in society. In that respect, yes... there is much wisdom in just leaving what God gave you just the way it is.
Science Goddess 05-12-2007, 12:17 PM I don't think I could ever tell anyone about their facial hair; not really. For starters, I think some women are just stronger than me, which I totally respect; and there are others who take pride in just looking the way women from their country are supposed to look. I guess I wonder about women when i see something as blantant as fuzzy dark beard.(and I have, recently!!!)...is she a strong lady (and good on her!) or has noone ever told her?
I don't know...I don't understand either whether it doesn't bother them (those with really apparent mustaches or beards), they don't notice, or ..?? I admit, if I had a beard or a really apparent mustache...I'd be putting my waxer on retainer.
As far as my friend, I have come to think that she perhaps didn't see them because when she's looking in the mirror doing her skin care, she isn't wearing her glasses! Add to this that her skin is a bit 'rough' from having really bad acne as a young adult, and it probably makes it even more difficult to spot those little dark hairs.
I think that a good way to approach something like this is by sharing your own little story about hairs and plucking (to whatever you consider to be an appropriate level of detail) and asking 'what about you?', and hope that maybe they go home and look in the magnifying mirror. Of course, I would never do this with a stranger or someone that I barely know (unless we were having martinis!), like the waitress.
Of course, if it was a waitress that you're not likely to see ever again, you could leave her a little note. :o
Kare Bear 05-12-2007, 12:55 PM Thankyou so much for your reassurance Inahnia:) I might try electrolisis one day to see how it works out. I'm weird I guess, in that I kind of enjoy plucking and grooming in general. I can't explain why though:).
If any of you are considering electrolysis, you should stop plucking and shave only. If you pluck, it takes longer for the electrolysis process. Like I said -- it's expensive at first because you have to go so often, but then they stagger your appointments because you're on a "growth schedule." I loved it :-)
Bella_D 05-12-2007, 05:10 PM It does have a lot of wisdom and it would be wonderful if people were just accepted the way they are. In Islam, the hair plucking thing is coming from outside sources, not the Qur'an. Just like a man's beard in Islam - that is also coming from something that the Prophet Muhammad happened to say, not what is put in the "criterion" or "guidance" of the Qur'an.
I really enjoyed reading your post Naznoor. Even if the details regarding dealing with facial hair/underarm hair/beards/ monobrows etc are somewhat flexible, its comforting to know there are cultures in the world that have more spiritual priorities, don't you think?.
I've always felt, since I was a teen, that the more aspects of one's natural appearance one feels that they `should' change, the more it `shames' you and hurts your sense of `spirit'.
I tried to explain it to my Dad once when I was 15, when bikini bottoms in the 1980's were cut so impossibly high and thin, they barely covered anything. I couldn't find any swimwear that I felt comfortable wearing in public! I told Dad I thought they should be made to cover a woman `properly' and Dad said the problem was that women had too much hair `down there'. As if somehow women were faulty or something, rather than the design of the clothing.
And then there was the whole makeup thing- its a terrible thing when a young girl is made to feel that her face is unacceptable unless its covered in paint and decorated almost beyond recognition.
Anyway, I get the sense that religious teachings surrounding one's appearance are meant to help believers avoid that sense of shame which can come from feeling that the natural body is unaccaptable as it is.
Or maybe its less about `avoiding shame' and more about celebrating the gift of being alive and having a body to experience life in?
Bella_D 05-12-2007, 05:11 PM If any of you are considering electrolysis, you should stop plucking and shave only. If you pluck, it takes longer for the electrolysis process. Like I said -- it's expensive at first because you have to go so often, but then they stagger your appointments because you're on a "growth schedule." I loved it :-)
Thanks Jay's Love.
Any idea of the cost/ time-frame for electrolisis? Also, is it painful?
Cheers!
Amina 05-12-2007, 05:59 PM Interesting that in Islam, there are schools of interpretation that teach that it's wrong for a woman to pluck (so traditionally people got rid of it through stringing or whatever you call it). I did not know about this "rule" until after I was about 40 myself, so had long been plucking. Unfortunately, I have found that the more I pluck, the more it all grows back (and thicker, too).. ugh!
Some schools of thought say that plucking (or any kind of shaping, including threading) is forbidden on the eyebrows, however this has nothing to do with the rest of facial hair and I've never seen any reputable scholars say that it is forbidden to remove mustaches or beards from a woman's face. In fact there is a fairly authentic hadith which states that a woman came to Aisha (RA) and told her that she had facial hair and her husband really disliked it, Aisha told her there was not harm in removing the hair.
Back in the jahalyah days (days of ignorance) woman used to basically remove ALL of their eyebrows and leave very strange, unnatural arches...kind of like the ones you see some women draw or paint on today. They also used to shave down their teeth to make them sharp which they felt was a sign of youth and beauty. However, routine facial maintenance isn't viewed as forbidden from what I have learned.
Amina 05-12-2007, 06:10 PM Also, regarding "just things the Prophet Mohamed happened to say"...
This is a very hot issue. Most Muslims don't consider the hadiths (the sayings or advice) of the Prophet Mohamed to be "outside sources"...and the Quran itself tells us to follow the book and the sunnah (life) of the Prophet Mohamed.
If it was not for the "outside sources" Muslims would not pray five times a day or even know how to pray...yet, these prayer rules and traditions have been non-optional for all muslims since the time of the Prophet Mohamed, IE they are not innovations.
Alawiy 05-12-2007, 08:25 PM Also, regarding "just things the Prophet Mohamed happened to say"...
This is a very hot issue. Most Muslims don't consider the hadiths (the sayings or advice) of the Prophet Mohamed to be "outside sources"...and the Quran itself tells us to follow the book and the sunnah (life) of the Prophet Mohamed.
If it was not for the "outside sources" Muslims would not pray five times a day or even know how to pray...yet, these prayer rules and traditions have been non-optional for all muslims since the time of the Prophet Mohamed, IE they are not innovations.
This is all a debate for another thread, but I will clarify one thing: "Outside sources" was meant as "outside of the Qur'an" (not outside of the religious teachings). I tried to emphasize the Qur'an as "criterion" and make a distinction between that and other means that have been used to coming to the conclusion that one should or should not change anything about themselves. (Also, just for the information of non-muslims reading this, and to clarify further, the Prophet Muhammad never did write any of the narrations down himself. In that sense, I consider the narrations about his life to be outside of the Qur'an. There ARE some narrations, some 'hadiths" about his life WITHIN the revelations of the Qur'an. Those are not the ones I was referring to).
All that said, I also have not seen anything in either the Qur'an or the hadiths (narrations) anywhere that would indicate it is not permitted to remove your mustache and beard, whether you are a man or a woman. Neither the Qur'an or the Prophet set up any conditions or requirements or criterion for being known as an "authentic scholar" either - which presents a problem among muslims. Since the "way of peace" was never intended to be a religion, especially not one with a heirarchy of clergy, we do have recognized scholars, but we also have many who are regarded as "authentic" by this sect or that, and not always regarded the same by all.
The bottom line is, yes.... in Islam, if you take it as a whole, you do find that the emphasis is (or really should be) on our inner selves, on our actions towards others and how well we are bringing peace to the world, and NOT on our outside appearances. I personally am not as strong as others when it comes to the issue of my facial hair. I will continue to remove it. But I have great respect and love for those sisters of mine in Islam (and the brothers who marry them) who live a pious life regardless of how much facial hair they have --- and I've seen some with a LOT!!
Miffy 05-12-2007, 09:31 PM I'm surprised no one has mentioned laser hair removal. We don't even have places that do electrolysis up here anymore--everyone uses the laser method. It's practically painless and the hair NEVER grows back. My sister had her bikini line done last year and she's been smooth ever since....
Kare Bear 05-12-2007, 11:23 PM Thanks Jay's Love.
Any idea of the cost/ time-frame for electrolisis? Also, is it painful?
Cheers!
My technician charges $60 per hour. She can do a LOT in an hour! The process takes 18 months overall. It's not NOT painful, but it's not unbearable, either. Everytime I thought about complaining, I just closed my eyes and thought of the end result!
PinkCat 05-13-2007, 01:59 AM I'm surprised no one has mentioned laser hair removal. We don't even have places that do electrolysis up here anymore--everyone uses the laser method. It's practically painless and the hair NEVER grows back. My sister had her bikini line done last year and she's been smooth ever since....
Wow, that's pretty impressive. Was it expensive?
Amina 05-13-2007, 10:11 AM This is all a debate for another thread, but I will clarify one thing: "Outside sources" was meant as "outside of the Qur'an" (not outside of the religious teachings). I tried to emphasize the Qur'an as "criterion" and make a distinction between that and other means that have been used to coming to the conclusion that one should or should not change anything about themselves. (Also, just for the information of non-muslims reading this, and to clarify further, the Prophet Muhammad never did write any of the narrations down himself. In that sense, I consider the narrations about his life to be outside of the Qur'an. There ARE some narrations, some 'hadiths" about his life WITHIN the revelations of the Qur'an. Those are not the ones I was referring to).
The Prophet Mohamed didn't write the Quran either...it wasn't written until after his death.
Also, in my post I believe I said that women are allowed to remove facial hair...
Alawiy 05-13-2007, 07:45 PM The Prophet Mohamed didn't write the Quran either...it wasn't written until after his death.
Also, in my post I believe I said that women are allowed to remove facial hair...
Right he didn't write the Qur'an either. Although it was written down during his lifetime, it wasn't collected and bound in a book until after his lifetime. Some teachings hold that there were as many as 17 scribes at one time who wrote down the Qur'an when the Prophet Muhammad repeated the revelations. It would be written on whatever was available - like leather, or tree bark.
Yes - I did see that you said women are allowed to remove facial hair.
Em, I'm thinkin' those women with the sharpened teeth must not have been giving too many B.J.'s, yanno? Ouchy! :tongue3: (sorry, couldn't resist...)
Science Goddess 05-14-2007, 12:22 AM Em, I'm thinkin' those women with the sharpened teeth must not have been giving too many B.J.'s, yanno? Ouchy! :tongue3: (sorry, couldn't resist...)
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I would think not
Amina 05-15-2007, 08:24 AM Em, I'm thinkin' those women with the sharpened teeth must not have been giving too many B.J.'s, yanno? Ouchy! :tongue3: (sorry, couldn't resist...)
I'm thinkin' you're probably right about that, although whoooo knows!!!
Miffy 05-16-2007, 03:19 PM Wow, that's pretty impressive. Was it expensive?
Well, if I remember correctly, she paid $50 per session, but she only needed two sessions to get rid of it all! Each session only lasts a few minutes and there's no needle like they use in electrolysis.
Pretty sure the going rate is about $50-$80 per session--I see advertisements in the newspaper all the time.
withmuchgusto 10-12-2007, 04:17 AM Wow this was last commented on way back in May but I totally have an opinion on this!Hmm,where do I begin?!
BellaD,I think a little fuzz on the lip is cute!So if the hair is dark baby you must have some hormonal drive in you LOL!I am sensitive to your self conscious issues.I will explain how so.
At one point in the past (6th grade LOL) I realized that I had a crush on a girl who had a fuzzy upper lip.:eek: :yes:.I mean I realized that her hair was actually a characteristic of her cute dimpled smile where they would just hover over the seam of her lips at the corner of her cute mouth :eek: :yes:
She was Hispanic.She also had hair on her forearms I remember.I do vouge with a better thought out opinion.I have found that I love hair on a females forearms.This noticing of noticing hair on forearms came after thinking about many Hispanic girls that I have met and found attractive that included the whole make up of their bodies with their feminine musculoforearms with femine fuz/fur lol.Especially when it is soft and ample.Like Sheila4PD said her BF's arms were.Yeah Sheila I agree I too love soft silky ample hair!I also agree that many Hispanic women do tend to have ample hair and that as part of the Hispanic men I DO have a special place in my heart for that lol for lack of better words.BELLAD when I saw this I said oh my god I love cute mustaches and furry forearms!Also it may be a testosterone thing in each individuals body.
I realized that I especially love forearm hair only if it is dark.Furthermore I have found only as recently as just last year ,pondering my tastes.
Now concerning leg hair...
I totally have no desire for women with hair on their legs ,except!,only if they were blonde I swear.It hit me I went against the grain and asked what about full blown leg hair?And I thought about the dark and said to my self yuk (being totally honest) and I said now thinking about blonde hair it is nearly invisible and a nice curvy blonde below it,it would not be bad at all!:eek:So only blonde can do the legs.I am sorry dark hair ladies unless you can change my opinion somehow. I guess hair is wild and primal and has strikes a primal instinct in me .I can honestly say it is a turn on.
I would actually be open hair under the arm,because I think the underarm is an erotic area of the body .(which I say includes just under the upper arm soft areas and point where bicep meets underarm !)
I have never let anyone know this.
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