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puppy fed to snake

Elizabeth B
06-15-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh my god, did you guys read aout that man who coated a puppy with oil and fed it to his pet boa?

This story disturbed me immensely...What is wrong with some people? What a sick thing to do!

Its a worry what other things they might be capable of...

Athena83
06-15-2007, 05:29 PM
Oh my god, did you guys read aout that man who coated a puppy with oil and fed it to his pet boa?

This story disturbed me immensely...What is wrong with some people? What a sick thing to do!

Its a worry what other things they might be capable of...

That's horrible! Can't imagine how terrified the puppy must have been :( I read a story about a family cat that disappeared for a few days. When it came back, it was soaked in gasoline! So many sick evil people out there.

RobsGirl
06-15-2007, 05:34 PM
Ewww, sick!!

Peachy
06-15-2007, 06:00 PM
:mad: I wish they would let me get a hold of some of those animal abusers!!!:mad:
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Jo-Admin
06-15-2007, 06:07 PM
OMG...Yuck.

Y'all wouldn't believe this, but a few years back when my son was in high school, the biology teacher had a litter of puppies he was going to feed to the snake IN CLASS. He had announced the day before he was going to do it, and I really thought he was pulling the students leg. But, I told my son to call if it really was going to happen the next day from school, and he did, and we had to call the POLICE to stop it. I guess the prinicipal must have thought it was okay too, until the police/news got involved. AND, the puppies were donated by a school board member who is a veterinarian. Although the story sounds a bit different on CNN, they did not ask him not to feed the puppies to the snake until later in the day, after students had "kidnapped" the puppies, the police were called, the news was involved, etc. I couldn't believe it!

It made national news... http://cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/2002/fyi/teachers.ednews/03/01/puppies.snake.ap/index.html

PinkCat
06-15-2007, 06:20 PM
What do boas normally eat?

Mishigas73
06-15-2007, 06:44 PM
If the boa was big enough to eat a puppy, what would have been the alternative?

A rabbit?

Jo-Admin
06-15-2007, 06:50 PM
Well these puppies were very small..Im not even sure if they had their eyes open yet. I just couldn't believe he was going to do that, and IN CLASS in front of the kids, like that wouldn't affect them or something.

I think he normally fed rats/mice to the snake, or at least that was my understanding. :confused:

We had black snake get up on the rafters to my house a few years back (we lived in the country) and it was eating baby birds. It was a pretty good size snake, but I don't know if it could have eaten anything as large as a rabbit.

Did they arrest this gentleman who fed the puppy to the snake?

sheila4pd
06-15-2007, 06:55 PM
Snakes are interesting animals, they grow according to what they eat, so you can have a pet boa that only eats rats for example, once a month. Or you can increase the size and frequency of the feeding until you end up with a snake that will eat a cat every two weeks.

Science Goddess
06-15-2007, 06:57 PM
If the boa was big enough to eat a puppy, what would have been the alternative?

A rabbit?

An ex-boyfriend of mine used to feed rats to his large snakes.

But, really, what's the real difference except that puppies are cuter than rats?

Don't get me wrong...I'm an animal lover but...do you see my point?

For you geeks like me, the term is "charismatic megafauna". Animals that people jump to aid because they're cute, basically. I doubt too many people would get upset about some guy feeding a rat to his snake.

And, yes, lots of people feed small rabbits to their snakes.

This is why, people, you don't ever give your pet away free or for a few bucks to anyone unless you know them or have checked out their home. I paid a fee to give my ex's pet rabbit to the humane society because someone would have to pay to adopt it. No one was going to pay, what? $50? $100 to buy one snake meal when you can get it for free by petnapping someone's puppy or buy a rat for a few bucks.

EDIT: And I guess, if they did, well, they paid for it.

Science Goddess
06-15-2007, 07:00 PM
Did they arrest this gentleman who fed the puppy to the snake?

I wonder, though, how could this be illegal? Again, why would it be okay to buy a rat and feed it to a snake but not a puppy?


Hey, I'm not arguing FOR feeding puppies to snakes! Just looking at it, well, 'objectively'.

TGIF.

Mishigas73
06-15-2007, 07:15 PM
But, really, what's the real difference except that puppies are cuter than rats?

Don't get me wrong...I'm an animal lover but...do you see my point?



I hear you, loud and clear.

It reminds me of when I was young and refused to eat beef and pork. When my mom asked me why chicken was ok, I responded "because cows are cute".

Personally, I tend to wonder about someone who would keep a boa that was large enough to eat a puppy...but, ya know, these scaly creatures have to eat too. And, if you bring that creature into your house, you have to take care of it.

Peachy
06-15-2007, 07:16 PM
I doubt too many people would get upset about some guy feeding a rat to his snake.

LOL, Gina, my 6-year old granddaughter would!! Recently at the pet store she and her dad were looking at the mice and rats and other stuff. He made the mistake of telling her that the rats were bought to feed to snakes . . . she threw a complete fit and wanted him to buy every rat in the store! :eek:

She is basically a bug hunter and loves bugs. Chews me out if I kill one.

So that same day at the pet store, when they got to the counter to pay for their stuff, the person in front of them had a bag full of live crickets. My daughter looked at her husband and said out of the corner of her mouth, "Don't you say a word!!!" :bgrin2:

Science Goddess
06-15-2007, 07:45 PM
LOL, Gina, my 6-year old granddaughter would!! Recently at the pet store she and her dad were looking at the mice and rats and other stuff. He made the mistake of telling her that the rats were bought to feed to snakes . . . she threw a complete fit and wanted him to buy every rat in the store! :eek:

She is basically a bug hunter and loves bugs. Chews me out if I kill one.

So that same day at the pet store, when they got to the counter to pay for their stuff, the person in front of them had a bag full of live crickets. My daughter looked at her husband and said out of the corner of her mouth, "Don't you say a word!!!" :bgrin2:

Oh, man, that's so cute, Lib. And I love the punchline. :)

Science Goddess
06-15-2007, 07:46 PM
It reminds me of when I was young and refused to eat beef and pork. When my mom asked me why chicken was ok, I responded "because cows are cute".


And the pig? :tongue2:

Chamaeleon
06-15-2007, 10:40 PM
I say he needs to be shot and fed to his snake SICKO!:eek:

jellybean400
06-15-2007, 11:06 PM
I wonder, though, how could this be illegal? Again, why would it be okay to buy a rat and feed it to a snake but not a puppy?


Hey, I'm not arguing FOR feeding puppies to snakes! Just looking at it, well, 'objectively'.

TGIF.

Yeah, i wonder.

The guy could be arrested for kicking the puppy, but not for feeding it to a snake? (nevermind, i see he was arrested lol)

Mishigas73
06-15-2007, 11:40 PM
So, feeding a puppy to a snake makes people go ballistic...

Yet, you can feed mice, rats, bunnies, and all those other cute little rodents to snakes, and it's all cool?

I seriously fail to see why this guy was arrested.

Jo-Admin
06-16-2007, 01:35 AM
You know, this discussion makes me wonder. In Kansas we passed a law recently that makes animal cruelty a felony.

I wonder exactly what animals are covered under those kind of laws? Ummm..I would guess not mice, rats, rabbits? Possums? Armadillos? Chickens...

Im making my own head spin, but you got the point right?

Mishigas73
06-16-2007, 02:00 AM
You know, this discussion makes me wonder. In Kansas we passed a law recently that makes animal cruelty a felony.

I wonder exactly what animals are covered under those kind of laws? Ummm..I would guess not mice, rats, rabbits? Possums? Armadillos? Chickens...

Im making my own head spin, but you got the point right?

I'm from a place where there has been "animal cruelty laws" for a LONG time.

I do agree with the idea of a felony when it comes to animal cruelty. I just fail to see it in this case. The snake has to be fed, no? So, depending on its size....a puppy sure seems to be adequate.

Bunny, rat, mouse....

What in the hell is the difference?

And, why should this person be put in jail while someone who feeds a snake a cute little bunny doesn't get ANY jail time?

Mishigas73
06-16-2007, 02:11 AM
But, then again, puppies and kittens are DIFFERENT.

Yeah, it totally CRACKS me up to think of the people who would actually view it this way. But, yeah, they're there.

And, unfortunately, wherever this is, it is against the law. Hell, it probably is where I am to. And, the reasoning? That is what I fail to see.

One creature is "ok" to feed to a snake and another isn't?

Oh, come on. I've seen enough of the little rat dogs where I live to understand, COMPLETELY, the mentality of feeding them to snakes.

Science Goddess
06-16-2007, 02:30 AM
So, feeding a puppy to a snake makes people go ballistic...

Yet, you can feed mice, rats, bunnies, and all those other cute little rodents to snakes, and it's all cool?

I seriously fail to see why this guy was arrested.

It would be interesting to read the court judgement.

jellybean400
06-16-2007, 09:19 AM
Its gotta be something to do with animals that are domesticated house pets. But i know people do have rats as pets, so i'm not sure. i havent had time to look into it, but i'm interested to find out.

*Well, so far i found this on another board. i dont know where the actual "law" is:
"According to state law, which is sad to say, mice, rats, and rabbits are considered food sources to reptiles in captivity. Too me, it just doesn't fit right with me.

Canine or Feline animals are considered standard domesticated house pets and illegal for food consumption. "

PinkPanther_04
06-16-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm just wondering why they needed to coat the puppy with oil.


I've known plenty of people who've had mice, rats, and rabbits as pets. Those are all common snake food. I know and have known plenty of people who keep snakes and lizards, as well. If you have a carnivore living in your house you have to feed it some other animal, and for some carnivorous pets, their food doesn't come in pelletized form in bags.

That said, dogs and cats (and all of Order Carnivora, really) are very intelligent, besides being generally cute, and I know in any kind of research the use of dogs or cats rather than mice, rats, or rabbits would have to be justified. So there is precedent for treating rodents differently from canines or felines, and I can see why, even though I'm certainly a fan of rodents, personally.

Lisa
06-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Poor little puppy :(

Elizabeth B
06-17-2007, 01:50 AM
I think that there is something extremely sick about a person who takes the family pet (I believe it was his sons puppy) and feeds it to a snake.

The puppy was a PET. Thats whats especially wrong about it.

To be honest, I wish snakes were vegetarians!!! I'm not keen on the bunnies or mice getting chomped either!

It just bothers me so much that he so calculatatingly covered it in oil and did it in front of two 15 year old boys.

Apparently the snake bit the puppy and then coiled itself around it. What a cruel way for the puppy to go! I'd like to get my hands on the wanker that did it!

Chamaeleon
06-17-2007, 03:11 AM
I think that there is something extremely sick about a person who takes the family pet (I believe it was his sons puppy) and feeds it to a snake.

The puppy was a PET. Thats whats especially wrong about it.

To be honest, I wish snakes were vegetarians!!! I'm not keen on the bunnies or mice getting chomped either!

It just bothers me so much that he so calculatatingly covered it in oil and did it in front of two 15 year old boys.

Apparently the snake bit the puppy and then coiled itself around it. What a cruel way for the puppy to go! I'd like to get my hands on the wanker that did it!

Oh girl HOW i agree with you. This makes me so sick to my stomach!. I don't care for the snake thing myself. I realize they have to eat mice; but im not one to sit and feed the nasty thing EEW!

I think he should not only be accountable for what he did to the family pet BUT I would consider this ABUSE in my eyes for doing this in front of his children. What sick twisted person does this is beyond me:yes:

PinkPanther_04
06-17-2007, 06:27 AM
To be honest, I wish snakes were vegetarians!!! I'm not keen on the bunnies or mice getting chomped either!
If snakes were vegetarians you'd be complaining about all the mice. They do us a huge favor by consuming animals that carry disease and infiltrate our food supplies.

Elizabeth B
06-17-2007, 08:08 AM
If snakes were vegetarians you'd be complaining about all the mice. They do us a huge favor by consuming animals that carry disease and infiltrate our food supplies.

Which I guess explains why its more acceptable socially to feed snakes mice rather then puppies.

I don't know guys, the whole thing just really bothers me. Sure I may be a hypocrite, but when you have grown up loving dogs and caring for them its a horrible thought that someone could feed one to a snake. I guess its just an accepted fact of life they eat mice.

I personally hate snakes. In Australia, we have the deadliest snakes in the world and I just find them horrible!!!

Elizabeth B
06-17-2007, 08:11 AM
ps- I also hate crocs!

In a place I used to live I heard a story that some guy let his dog swim in the river and it got eaten by a crocodile in front of a whole tour boat of people. Poor dog!

(I hope I'm not putting any of you off coming down under, really its great, just mind the snakes, crocs, spiders, sharks, boxing kangaroos....)

PinkPanther_04
06-17-2007, 11:05 AM
I personally hate snakes.
Oh, you just haven't met any nice ones. ;)

Here in Florida dogs (and people) are eaten by alligators occasionally. I still like them though, and snakes too. Very cool critters.

sara
06-17-2007, 11:22 AM
I can guarantee if I had been there at 15, it being my Dad or not, I would have taken an axe to the snake and gotten the puppy out. Even if the puppy would have been dead...so would the snake. I have no love for a snake. As my Mom says...snakes are evil...lucifer was made to crawl on his belly as a snake...LOL just saying....

PinkPanther_04
06-17-2007, 11:54 AM
Wow, I don't get this hatred of snakes. I find it really sad.

Jo-Admin
06-17-2007, 12:27 PM
Well Pink, if it makes you feel any better I don't hate snakes. :o

We live in the country, and sometimes even get snakes in the house. My b/f catches them and then releases them. We have black snakes out in our yard (sometimes big ones), and because mice are a problem in the country we don't mind them being there.

About a couple weeks ago we found a pretty large black snake out front when we were mowing our property, and we stood and watched him climb straight up a tree, it was kind of interesting.

It's not like I look at a snake and think "oh cool, I wanna hold it!" lol, but they really don't bother me much.

Chamaeleon
06-17-2007, 12:50 PM
ps- I also hate crocs!

In a place I used to live I heard a story that some guy let his dog swim in the river and it got eaten by a crocodile in front of a whole tour boat of people. Poor dog!

(I hope I'm not putting any of you off coming down under, really its great, just mind the snakes, crocs, spiders, sharks, boxing kangaroos....)

LOL Elixabeth..IM moving there. YOu all have some big hunter spiders! kai showed me one. Brown snakes eeeek..But you forgot to mention DROP BEARS!!:tongue2::EvilLaugh::innocent:

PS pink we got rattlesnakes here..I HATE UM once in a blue moon i will see one

PinkPanther_04
06-17-2007, 01:20 PM
PS pink we got rattlesnakes here..I HATE UM once in a blue moon i will see one
Hey, people don't have to like them, they should just leave them alone. Like most wild animals, snakes don't want anything to do with people. But people hate them anyways. Back home in Texas, as in quite a few states, towns have annual "Rattlesnake Roundups" where they just slaughter thousands of animals for fun over a weekend. And other people just kill them for no reason, even if they're not venomous and aren't a danger to anyone. It's really disgusting.

Chamaeleon
06-17-2007, 01:24 PM
Hey, people don't have to like them, they should just leave them alone. Like most wild animals, snakes don't want anything to do with people. But people hate them anyways. Back home in Texas, as in quite a few states, towns have annual "Rattlesnake Roundups" where they just slaughter thousands of animals for fun over a weekend. And other people just kill them for no reason, even if they're not venomous and aren't a danger to anyone. It's really disgusting.

OH i agree! I dont kill um I just back away and call the snake handler guy LOL. Can you see me handling a snake OH heck no. IM to chicken! *flaps arms*:tongue2:

sheila4pd
06-17-2007, 01:26 PM
I like snakes. I think they are God's creatures too and they serve a purpose in the ecosystem. In ancient Egypt snakes and cats were valued for their role in protecting the grain from rodents.

I had a boa when I was an exchange student in Kansas, I was in charge of keeping the rats and mice that were going to become the boa's lunch. So I did not establish any emotional ties with the rodents as I imagine a farmer does not establish emotional ties with his chicken.

Actually the whole process from rat cage to boa's tummy is faster than the long ride of a cow in a truck to the slaughter house and the anguish of the waiting in line to be killed.

Inahnia
06-17-2007, 03:28 PM
I don't mind snakes, except the venomous ones, which I hope not to see. My daughter kept a boa for a friend once back in high school, and guess who go to feed it? Me. It was small, so only mice, but still....

I would NEVER feed one a puppy or kitten though. I can objectively see that there isn't much difference, at least to the snake, but hey, rats are nasty and don't do anything useful as far as I can see, except provide food for snakes.

Elizabeth B
06-17-2007, 05:10 PM
I certainly don't agree wth just slaughtering snakes for no reason, but I still really don't like them.

They just creep me out so much. And people I know who own farms and properties have lost so many horses, dogs and cats to snake bite.

I think it comes from being so scared of them. I'm absolutely petrified of snakes. Because here in Australia if you see a snake, you can just assume that it is able to kill you with one bite! They are mostly so poisonous.

When I was in Canada I saw a little yellow snake near me and I was screaming my lungs out! All these people thought it was hilarious, it turned out to be a little harmless tree snake. They don't get that in Oz, snake means RUN!!!!

legallyblonde
06-20-2007, 11:04 AM
I'd like to kick that jerk in the behind with my hiking boots on. I guess next we'll hear this dude sold his kid to someone for prostitution to make money to feed the snake. Pet snakes can eat chickien purchased from the grocery store. That just means there is a reason for you to never GIVE a puppy away. People might do something dastardly with it.

I'd love to get my hands on him!

Ali

Science Goddess
06-20-2007, 01:31 PM
Pet snakes can eat chickien purchased from the grocery store.

I've never heard this. Either way, the snakes that my ex-boyfriend had/has would only eat live food.

Strwbrries
06-20-2007, 01:40 PM
I like snakes at least, let me be clear, I like snakes more than I like tarantulas. My son wants one or the other and I said go for the snake.

Im torn between the puppy fed to the snake bit though, on one hand dogs are pets so Americans hold them on a higher level than most other animals, on the other hand in some countries dogs are food. I think its more of a cultural thing really. Rats are very smart creatures thats been proven time and time again...some rats might be smarter than some dogs..so who suffers more? and I remember a few years back this elderly lady use to walk her pet bunny on a leash everyday..and I was equally weird I use to walk my cat on a leash so just imagine seeing that out your window me with my cat walking alongside the lady and her bunny. So both animals were smart, the bunny was also paper trained.

If the man fed the puppy because he sees it as food then its one thing, but if he did it because he gets some sick thrill out of it then thats another.

PinkPanther_04
06-20-2007, 03:46 PM
I've never heard this. Either way, the snakes that my ex-boyfriend had/has would only eat live food.
Some snakes will eat dead mice, which you can buy frozen from a variety of sources, but some are fussier eaters and need the real deal. Most snakes need to eat the whole animal, including organs, etc. So chicken breast or something like that from the store is going to cause malnutrition in the long run. And anyways, that's still an animal that was killed to feed another animal. You just don't have to do any of the "dirty work" yourself.


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