last1standing 08-20-2007, 12:07 PM “Hello, and a good evening to you all! Welcome to tonight’s game, as the Central High School Red Elephants take on the Blue Burros of Northside High School. Folks, this rivalry has been building up all season long, and we are anticipating an action packed contest on the gridiron here tonight!”
As an analogy, the above describes the vast majority of politically and socially themed threads here in the Debate Forum. Two “teams”…each intellectually prepared for the contest and wearing proper equipment (in the form of data in support of their position)…"doing battle" in an environment constructed to reward the team (or individual) that is best-prepared and puts forth the best overall effort. And...as anyone who has ever “put on the pads” can attest (having heard their coaches say it thousands of times), “if you aren’t sweating (or bleeding), you’re not in the game”.
As with football, a good debate ideally should be conducted with respect and sportsmanship toward your opponent, but there is no getting around the fact that it can get a bit rough at times. "Big hits", having your feet taken out from underneath you, and being “blind-sided” are all just part of the game. From its inception, the Debate Forum was meant to be “the field”; a place where Agelesslove members could present their positions on passionate, important issues, and where those positions could be discussed, examined, dissected, and evaluated objectively -- sans the protection of any "emotional covering" -- by other members. And in the end, if during such examination some positions are weighed, measured, and found wanting, …well, that’s why we keep score, right? Basically, bring your "A" game every time you post here and hope that it’s good enough. If it’s not, accept defeat graciously and go work on your game.
Why all this theater, you ask? To get to this:
Debate will now be a controlled access forum. To participate in the Debate Forum, members must obtain exclusive permission to do so from Jo-admin (granted upon request submitted via PM), and such permission will only be granted to members who understand and acknowledge that they will comply the following Debate Forum rules:
1. Beginning immediately, the Ageless staff will moderate ONLY issues of profanity, pornography, threats of any kind to person or property, and spam here in Debate. Do not report posts in the Debate Forum for any other reason. While we still encourage common sense and respectfulness here, participation in the Debate forum is now strictly “at your own risk”.
2. As with the other Agelesslove forums, personal issues that may develop between two members should be handled via PM by the members involved, and the “ignore” feature should be used when such problems cannot be resolved. However, regarding personal issues stemming from discussions here in Debate, a stricter policy will apply. Agelesslove moderators will not become involved in any such issues unless/until the members involved have shown evidence of attempts to work their problems out themselves via PM, and even then only under extraordinary circumstances. “Whining” to us after-the-fact about what so-and-so said to you or how they said it will result in the loss of your Debate Forum access privileges.
3. WHIDSID! (What Happens In Debate Stays In Debate!) There is no way to over-emphasize this! Anytime the mod staff finds ANY post in which a disagreement or conflict from Debate has spilled out into another forum or section of Ageless, the member posting it will receive a temporary two-week ban not only from the Debate Forum, but from the entire Agelesslove.com site, as well as a mandatory “2nd level” warning.* A second such offense will result in the member being permanently banned from the Debate Forum, an extended ban from the entire site (length to be determined by the site administrator), and a mandatory 3rd level warning.* This is definitely a “zero tolerance” issue folks; if you really want to be fast-tracked out of Ageless, then test us on this one.
And finally, a word to those members who aren’t quite ready to “suit up”…
The admin and mod staff realize that some members who have posted in the Debate Forum in the past will be uncomfortable with these changes, and we’d like reassure those members that the Discussion & Differing Views Forum (as well as all other areas of Agelesslove.com besides the Debate Forum) will remain fully moderated. Those members who prefer discussing issues (even if they are ones also under discussion in a Debate Forum thread) in a less-aggressive environment are encouraged to do so there.
* For those members who might be unaware of the mod staff's warning system, Agelesslove members who -- after being reminded of them (usually more than once) -- continue to show a pattern of disregard for the site's rules are issued a 1st level warning. A 2nd level warning is issued upon their next rules violation, along with a notice that if continued, such behavior could place their Agelesslove.com membership in jeopardy. Finally, if the violations persist, the member is issued a 3rd level warning and informed that the next such violation of site rules will result in he or she being permanently banned from Agelesslove.com.
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 02:11 PM Hey y'all, Im getting your requests for access, and I will grant forum permissions tomorrow.
I still have to figure out how the heck to set the forum up...LOL.
You know me, always behind schedule.
grumpysgirl 08-20-2007, 02:54 PM Hey y'all, Im getting your requests for access, and I will grant forum permissions tomorrow.
I still have to figure out how the heck to set the forum up...LOL.
You know me, always behind schedule.
lol its okay...i would love access:yes:
tinydancer 08-20-2007, 02:56 PM Well, HURRY UP JoJo :D
Some of these people are having serious withdrawal syptoms:eek:
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 03:02 PM My initial response to the description of the new thread was, "Hold me, Mommy, I ascared." UNTIL I got to the "NO WHINING" part and then I sent my request for membership - express mail! :D
Between you and me, I have two concerns:
a) That I have so many people on "ignore user" that I won't have anyone to talk to down there.
b) That they will create a new membership especially for me that allows posting ONLY in the "Debate Section"!!!! :eek: :p
Strwbrries 08-20-2007, 03:05 PM Should be interesting to watch to say the least. Im laying bets already...:p
eponavet 08-20-2007, 03:13 PM Should be interesting to watch to say the least. Im laying bets already...:p
Will the debate section be allowed to be viewed by all members but only posted in by people who are granted access? Just curious....
grumpysgirl 08-20-2007, 03:16 PM What epo said!
Straw..I bet 50 bucks! okay i dont have 50 how about 1 dollar? LOL
chatter hehe
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 03:19 PM What epo said!
Straw..I bet 50 bucks! okay i dont have 50 how about 1 dollar? LOL
chatter hehe
Actually, my plan is to say whatever I want and put EVERYONE on "ignore"!!!
:D
last1standing 08-20-2007, 03:20 PM Will the debate section be allowed to be viewed by all members but only posted in by people who are granted access? Just curious....
Currently, the answer is "no"; members not registered for Debate will not be able to view the forum at all.
Strwbrries 08-20-2007, 03:23 PM What epo said!
Straw..I bet 50 bucks! okay i dont have 50 how about 1 dollar? LOL
chatter hehe
Ill see your dollar and raise you $10,000 of monopoly money.
grumpysgirl 08-20-2007, 03:25 PM Ill see your dollar and raise you $10,000 of monopoly money.
FINE i will through in park place and a get out of jail free card to!
SIGN ME UP! I love debate..I have withdrawls
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 03:30 PM I need someone to come up with a user title, even though most people use custom titles. This usergroup needs a name.
Regular members have the title "registered user" but in order to set the forum up like this, people who can access the debate forum need to be part of another user group.
What shall we name you all? Debaters? That's not very creative...but yeah, we need a name for this user group.
Thoughts?
zoliepup 08-20-2007, 03:38 PM How about "sado-masochists"? or a tag line that says "I love to torture myself!" bravehearted? foolhearty?
I'm almost thinking about buying a ticket to the show just to watch, but I'm scared! Maybe it will all be a pleasant surprise!!!
Strwbrries 08-20-2007, 03:45 PM FINE i will through in park place and a get out of jail free card to!
SIGN ME UP! I love debate..I have withdrawls
it's all about http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Strwbrries/ScreenHunter_54.jpg
like I said should be interesting to watch...and grumpy...i got your moolah
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Strwbrries/ScreenHunter_55.jpg
but one condition....i get to be the shoe http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Strwbrries/ScreenHunter_57.jpg
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 03:48 PM I need someone to come up with a user title, even though most people use custom titles. This usergroup needs a name.
Regular members have the title "registered user" but in order to set the forum up like this, people who can access the debate forum need to be part of another user group.
What shall we name you all? Debaters? That's not very creative...but yeah, we need a name for this user group.
Thoughts?
Whine-frees
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 04:02 PM Whine-frees
No wait!!! Scratch that!!! I may want to go there and whine someday! :bgrin2:
"Debaters" will be fine - as long as people don't take it literally, you know, expecting intelligent conversation, documentation, facts, and stuff like that.
Strwbrries 08-20-2007, 04:09 PM Contenders?
I could of been a contender...where is that from...Rocky?:confused:
last1standing 08-20-2007, 04:15 PM Pundits?
************
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 04:16 PM Pugilists?
sheila4pd 08-20-2007, 04:18 PM Gladiators
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 04:22 PM Gladiators
Oooooo, gladiators. I vote for gladiators!!! ... .... ..... But if I'm going to put everyone on "ignore", that won't really work ... .... how about "Shadow Boxers"??? :p
grumpysgirl 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM No wait!!! Scratch that!!! I may want to go there and whine someday! :bgrin2:
"Debaters" will be fine - as long as people don't take it literally, you know, expecting intelligent conversation, documentation, facts, and stuff like that.
HOW ABOUT masterDEBATERS? no no never mind that did not sound good at ALL!
STRAW WOOT you can be the shoe but I get to be the top hat!
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 04:30 PM Masterdebaters! :giggle:
SoraNoYume 08-20-2007, 04:34 PM How about "The Bull Pen" ........In the 1800s, jails and holding cells were nicknamed bullpens, in respect of many police officers' bullish features -- strength and a short temper.
Police officers = moderators (less the bullish features...lol)
sora
grumpysgirl 08-20-2007, 04:37 PM How about "The Bull Pen" ........In the 1800s, jails and holding cells were nicknamed bullpens, in respect of many police officers' bullish features -- strength and a short temper.
Police officers = moderators (less the bullish features...lol)
sora
I am liking this one
jellybean400 08-20-2007, 04:43 PM Loud-mouth A-holes??? :bgrin2::eek:
j/k of course!
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 04:44 PM We can change the name of the debate section to "The Bull Pen" if you would like, but I can't see naming the user group that.
Examples of user groups we have now are registered members, mods, supermods, administrators, banned members, unconfirmed users...
SoraNoYume 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM Oh....sorry, for user group....Approved Debater. Keep it simple.
sora
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM We can change the name of the debate section to "The Bull Pen" if you would like, but I can't see naming the user group that.
Examples of user groups we have now are registered members, mods, supermods, administrators, banned members, unconfirmed users...
If and ONLY if, "Masterdebaters" is out, then I like "The Arena" and "Gladiators". :) But if we go with "The Bullpen" then we HAVE to be "Dabulls".
sheila4pd 08-20-2007, 04:50 PM Vic's Pets
Belisama 08-20-2007, 04:57 PM I seriously think a name that had been suggested long ago when the debate forum was first created should be considered: The Kitchen (as in, "if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the...")
What about the debate forum being call the Mosh Pit or Circle Pit? And the member group called punks, thrashers or moshers?
Or just "In The Pit" and call the users Moshers.
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:11 PM Need a guinea pig, please...and please excuse the temporary mess it will make of this thread...but will delete after.
A volunteer please?
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:14 PM Ooo ooo! :wavey:Me! :wavey:Me! :wavey:Me!
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:15 PM Got one now...thank you.
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:16 PM Got one now...thank you.
:( :( :( :(
*Kicks the dirt* Well then, I'm going to take my dog out to pee.
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:16 PM Chatters, let me try it on Mr. Hedgehog..and then I'll try it with you.
Messing with this stuff makes my tummy go...FLIP. I'm always afraid I will screw something up..because, well, I am ME! And I don't usually do much technical stuff.
Be back in a few moments after I test this on MrHedgehog, y'all.
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:18 PM Chatters, let me try it on Mr. Hedgehog..and then I'll try it with you.
:D :D :D :D
The dog can wait!
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:25 PM Uhhhh, Jody .... ummmmm, would it worry you if the "Debate" Section is gone?
MrHedgeHog 08-20-2007, 05:27 PM testing testing. 1 - 2 - 3. Is this thing on? testing!
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:28 PM Well, I can see your post, but you're still in Chit Chat.
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:30 PM Dang it, my dog's standing with her hind legs crossed and she's whining ... gotta go! Sorry!
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:32 PM Chatters, are you back yet? And if so, can you see the debate forum?
Can y'all see the debate forum?
Belisama 08-20-2007, 05:35 PM LOL - everything seems to be working as it should (including my hubby's post above)!
last1standing 08-20-2007, 05:36 PM Yup! MrHeggie's post shows up in Debate!
Bella 08-20-2007, 05:36 PM I want accessed!!!
I don't like not being able to see. Makes me all pouty and stuff.:D
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:36 PM Didn't leave yet - poor dog, please don't report me to the ASPCA.
No "Debate" Section.
last1standing 08-20-2007, 05:37 PM I want accessed!!!
I don't like not being able to see. Makes me all pouty and stuff.:D
Wait... Bella, you want access...or you want to be accessed??? :eek:
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:38 PM I see Mr.HedgeHog's post here in Chit Chat and I don't see a "Debate" Section. :confused:
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:38 PM Chatters, I can wait if you wanna take her out...want me to wait?
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:39 PM Chatters, I can wait if you wanna take her out...want me to wait?
Can you give me 10 minutes? Or is that too long?
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:40 PM Absolutely... go go go! It's fine. I will still be here.
Belisama 08-20-2007, 05:43 PM I see Mr.HedgeHog's post here in Chit Chat and I don't see a "Debate" Section. :confused:
LOL - that's exactly what you were supposed to see, Chatters... all is well. You're up next :bgrin2:
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:50 PM I'm back! All hot and sweaty. Ewwww.
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:50 PM *clicks fingernails on desk*
8 minutes and 32 seconds....
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:51 PM *clicks fingernails on desk*
8 minutes and 32 seconds....
LOL I'll have to tell you how I did it later!!! LOL
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:52 PM Ewwwww...you sweaty guinea pig, you. ;)
Okay, wait just a minute and I am going to change your status. Then, I want you to refresh the screen and answer these questions for me...
1. Do you see the debate forum?
2. Can you post in the debate forum/start a new thread in the debate forum?
3. Can you see the mod/admin forum? (please lie to me if you can, to prevent a heart failure).
4. Can you see and post in chit chat normally?
5. Can you access your PM box normally?
6. Does your signature look normal?
Okay, give me like... 2 minutes.
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 05:53 PM Waiting to be beamed into the Debate Section .... wonder if it'll feel funny ...
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:53 PM I lied, it took me like 2 seconds. Refresh your screen and then see if you can answer those questions for me.
Belisama 08-20-2007, 05:55 PM Tim says the warping your way in doesn't hurt too much if you just breathe evenly.
Angel 08-20-2007, 05:55 PM Okay I can't even see the first post for this thread. :(
http://www.agelesslove.com/boards/sh...713#post499713 <----when I click that I get this...
AngelAngel, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
Log Out Home
That's the message I receive when I click on the link on the first post under this thread.
last1standing 08-20-2007, 05:55 PM 3. Can you see the mod/admin forum? (please lie to me if you can, to prevent a heart failure).
(((Throwing blankets over all the important/embarrassing stuff just in case)))
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 05:57 PM Okay Angel, can you see the rest of the thread? Cuz Im thinking that maybe it's because Stan posted a link to a thread that is now in a "secured" area.
Angel 08-20-2007, 05:58 PM Okay Angel, can you see the rest of the thread? Cuz Im thinking that maybe it's because Stan posted a link to a thread that is now in a "secured" area.
Yes. But I can't read the changes/rules if you put the post under there, lol!
Do you guys have another place for people to read what the rules are before signing up? :p
No rules for you! Sign up first!
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:00 PM Tim says the warping your way in doesn't hurt too much if you just breathe evenly.
Ooooo, it was tingly!
YES 1. Do you see the debate forum?
YES 2. Can you post in the debate forum/start a new thread in the debate forum?
NO 3. Can you see the mod/admin forum? (please lie to me if you can, to prevent a heart failure).
YES 4. Can you see and post in chit chat normally?
YES 5. Can you access your PM box normally?
AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE FOR WHAT IT IS, YES 6. Does your signature look normal?
Bella 08-20-2007, 06:00 PM Meh, Stan, access, being accessed, I just don't like not being in on stuff, :tongue2:
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 06:01 PM Gosh, Angel, don't you trust me?
Just sign the form! And you know, put your social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license number, etc, in the appropriate areas. Here's a pen! Right there at the X, and then initial down at the bottom...and then sign right overrrrr...here! And ummm..initial there.
Yes, we can fix that..we can copy the rules over to this thread. I'll fix that in a second. :)
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:02 PM (((Throwing blankets over all the important/embarrassing stuff just in case)))
I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ME IN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have to see it to know it. :p
Oooo that Chatterbox, she's so nice. .... ....
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:03 PM Gosh, Angel, don't you trust me?
Just sign the form! And you know, put your social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license number, etc, in the appropriate areas. Here's a pen! Right there at the X, and then initial down at the bottom...and then sign right overrrrr...here! And ummm..initial there.
Yes, we can fix that..we can copy the rules over to this thread. I'll fix that in a second. :)
Want me to do it?
last1standing 08-20-2007, 06:04 PM Gosh, Angel, don't you trust me?
Just sign the form! And you know, put your social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license number, etc, in the appropriate areas. Here's a pen! Right there at the X, and then initial down at the bottom...and then sign right overrrrr...here! And ummm..initial there.
Yes, we can fix that..we can copy the rules over to this thread. I'll fix that in a second. :)
Sheesh. Jody, you gotta remember to include a "Power of Attorney" for them to sign! If you leave that out, this entire plan is worthless!
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 06:06 PM Sure, you can.
And also, we will just copy the thread over here from there....
Everything seems in good working order.
Im going to leave you at that status Chatters, so you can let me know if you run into any problems over the next few hours. Then..your fellow debate members should join you in debate by tomorrow morning.
Until then, I guess you can have free run of the place....
*grabs protective head gear*
Jo-Admin 08-20-2007, 06:08 PM Okay...
Whew...Im spent. That was just exhausting. All tuckered out.
LOL
I'm going to go make dinner for my kids, and then we will set to work approving members for the debate forum.
Everybody, please make sure you read the invisible rules before you sign up. :bgrin2:
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:08 PM Sure, you can.
And also, we will just copy the thread over here from there....
Everything seems in good working order.
Im going to leave you at that status Chatters, so you can let me know if you run into any problems over the next few hours. Then..your fellow debate members should join you in debate by tomorrow morning.
Until then, I guess you can have free run of the place....
*grabs protective head gear*
LOL Oooo, that will be good - I'm a good debater when it's just me and me! :D
Are not!
Am so!!!!
I'll see you in debate!
I'll see YOU in debate!
You're on!
No, YOU'RE on!
Angel 08-20-2007, 06:10 PM Gosh, Angel, don't you trust me?
Just sign the form! And you know, put your social security number, credit card numbers, drivers license number, etc, in the appropriate areas. Here's a pen! Right there at the X, and then initial down at the bottom...and then sign right overrrrr...here! And ummm..initial there.
Yes, we can fix that..we can copy the rules over to this thread. I'll fix that in a second. :)
Ha! :eek: :rofl:
You're a bad puddy tat!
http://www.classiccollectibles.net/images/items/211486-lg.jpg
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:17 PM Go back one post, Angel - the rules are there.
One thousand one.
One thousand two.
One thousand three.
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:18 PM Rules - Last Post on Page 5
eponavet 08-20-2007, 06:20 PM i can't see debate section....
is there a line? :o
Bella 08-20-2007, 06:26 PM yeah, and I'm holding my breath, and turning blue.
But it's just Chats in there for now, let her wear down for a little bit first anyway:D
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:27 PM yeah, and I'm holding my breath, and turning blue.
But it's just Chats in there for now, let her wear down for a little bit first anyway:D
I'm BORED!!!!! :p
Am not!
Yes, I am!
You are such a baby.
YOU are a baby!
Chatterbox 08-20-2007, 06:28 PM i can't see debate section....
is there a line? :o
Line forms to the left. Hope you brought your sleeping bag.
Okay, who's smoking pot????? No smoking pot, people!
last1standing 08-20-2007, 07:10 PM Ok, the new rules and policies for the Debate Forum are now in shown in post #1 of this thread.
sheila4pd 08-20-2007, 08:33 PM Ok.... I still cannot see it. :(
grumpysgirl 09-03-2007, 04:04 AM I found this a man who got caught molesting a pinata and wants to sue the company
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=25023
I am at a loss for words
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