I just cant take it!!!

All these threads on the same subject. It's too much for me to really keep up with. Is it me or does it seem that from the placating thread about 3 other threads popped up on it. Is it divide and conquer or overkill. Ah I dont know, all I do know is this morning I logged on and found way too many threads on what appears to be the same general subject and a lot of repetative posts.

So officially, here and now..Im going to lurk today when it comes to those thread but really I might post one teeny tiny post ...maybe...I dont really KNOW. I guess Im venting, throwing a tantrum, taking a piss, having a much needed verbal foot stomp....or just laughing at the sheer nuttiness of it all. Yes, I know I have a weird sense of humor.....

I understand that there is perceived unfairness, I understand that #3 needs to be more clarified, I understand that the interpretation of the rules and how they are applied to individuals varies by situation. Yes I understand...things I learn from this site..really...one day I will post of things that I have learned....

And I know what youre thinking, isnt this post just another spin off on the rest. Yes I guess it is! but I seriously refuse to post the same message in 4 different posts.

So mark this as the very first I JUST CANT TAKE IT post.

Also, I cant take people who wear loads of perfume at the mall, its too much for my migraine prone brain. :mad::rolleyes:

As always Smootches to the Lurkers!:lips:

I understand completely.

Oh goodness, I can't win for losing.

I created those two threads wanting input from the membership. It wasn't supposed to be the same topic...

It was supposed to be how do I interpret rule #3, and how do I make sure we enforce the rules fairly.

Instead, it just keeps going back to the same topics....

Im really just trying to do a good job here and hear what everyone has to say, because after all this isn't my site, it is the memberships site, and if y'all are unhappy Im unhappy.

If it helps..I always close those type of threads in about 24 hours, I just want them up long enough to get some input.

Oh goodness, I can't win for losing.

I created those two threads wanting input from the membership. It wasn't supposed to be the same topic...

It was supposed to be how do I interpret rule #3, and how do I make sure we enforce the rules fairly.

Instead, it just keeps going back to the same topics....

Im really just trying to do a good job here and hear what everyone has to say, because after all this isn't my site, it is the memberships site, and if y'all are unhappy Im unhappy.

If it helps..I always close those type of threads in about 24 hours, I just want them up long enough to get some input.

Im just "taking the piss" dear. lol I was busy clicking from post to post and realized all of a sudden that I had 4 or more windows open all on the same site..I snapped...* offers onion bagel as a peace token* have a bite.

OMG...thanks for the bagel! Im literally starving here.

My significant other had surgery on Wednesday, and he is home now but he is on a morphine pump and multiple other pain medications...and he is sick as a DOG! He has been throwing up ever since the surgery....

So, long story short, I have just been sneaking bites here and there so I don't eat around him and make him sick. :(

Can I have some cream cheese too! That would be awesome!

And Im not mad about your post..I was just trying to explain myself. Im having a pity party...you know..woe is me, nobody understands me...LOL

My significant other had surgery on Wednesday, and he is home now but he is on a morphine pump and multiple other pain medications...and he is sick as a DOG! He has been throwing up ever since the surgery....

So, long story short, I have just been sneaking bites here and there so I don't eat around him and make him sick. :(



God that sucks Jo! I am one of those that pukes my guts out on morphine and demerol...any of that group. The docs give me anti-nausea meds first now, and no problem. Get ahold of his dr and ask for some! They should have done that the first time he puked! it is a commen reaction for some.

hugsssssss

OMG...thanks for the bagel! Im literally starving here.

My significant other had surgery on Wednesday, and he is home now but he is on a morphine pump and multiple other pain medications...and he is sick as a DOG! He has been throwing up ever since the surgery....

So, long story short, I have just been sneaking bites here and there so I don't eat around him and make him sick. :(

Can I have some cream cheese too! That would be awesome!

And Im not mad about your post..I was just trying to explain myself. Im having a pity party...you know..woe is me, nobody understands me...LOL

Awww you poor thing * hands over cream cheese*, yes I can see how that could take a lot out of you and i am sorry to hear about your Significant Other. And thats ok, we can have a pity party here and complain about the things we dont like.

Well, in the hospital he was on morphine pump, demerol and percocet (huge dose!), and they did give him Reglan for nausea.

But when they sent us home...they didn't send anything for nausea. We have a doctor's appointment this afternoon, and they are SUPPOSED to pull that morphine pump. Im hoping that will make him feel better.

He is really suffering, and I feel horrible. He's sick, he's all doped up and loopy AND he is going to be off work for six weeks..right before Christmas. We're screwed! lol

All this trouble...because he fell down the stairs... :(

Oh goodness, I can't win for losing.

I created those two threads wanting input from the membership. It wasn't supposed to be the same topic...

It was supposed to be how do I interpret rule #3, and how do I make sure we enforce the rules fairly.

Instead, it just keeps going back to the same topics....

Im really just trying to do a good job here and hear what everyone has to say, because after all this isn't my site, it is the memberships site, and if y'all are unhappy Im unhappy.

If it helps..I always close those type of threads in about 24 hours, I just want them up long enough to get some input.

I've been reading them all and I have no idea what to say.....

I don't agree, in general, with relationships with VYM....I like many of the people involved in those relationships but I don't GET IT. Of course, it's not my place to GET. Lot's of people don't GET my life. So, as long as the people involved are of legal age, then the chips will fall where they may as life for them progresses.

I've agreed with Molly, Marcy, Scott, and anyone else who's posted regarding the hypocrisy in certain situations.

I've never liked moderation and anyone who knows me knows that. Although, most of the mods are some of my best friends. It's a thankless job and I honestly don't know why they do it.

My opinion doesn't mean a thing. I've been a member here, except to leave for a short time, for quite a few years. I think when I left, I lost my place....my place of respect and credibility. But, oh well....whatever.

And, Sis, you know I LOVE you! You're the best!!!!!

LOL Strw! I think we must just have a very ummm, opinionated bunch of posters here right now. :jerry: I just lay low most of the time anymore and read for entertainment when bored at work. ;)

One thing's for sure: criticism and complaining always begets more criticism and compaining.

If it helps..I always close those type of threads in about 24 hours, I just want them up long enough to get some input.


Helps???? It SAVES us! :yes: When they're deleted is the best part! :D


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Next topic:

I'm sorry about your honey. Please tell him we're thinking of him and wishing him a speedy recovery and I'm sending waves of strength, patience, and support to you to, Jody! Being a caretaker is tough, so take care of yourself, too.

Sweet a 4th thread. :p

Angel...8 is my lucky number..so only four more threads to go!

We can do it!!!! LOL

Off to take J to the doctor...later everyone!

Sweet a 4th thread. :p

:happy0188:

:rofl:

Agelesslove Threads are just like sex in a new relationship...

You do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

Then you wait 12 hours....

And you...

...do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

And then you get the whip....

...etc...etc and so forth.

Oh i dont know... this adds variety to the threads. So you've accomplished your goal.:D

I'm more of a lurker as well. Every now and then i'll come out of my cave and post something non-repetitive.

How can no-one see, no matter who did what and what mistakes were made....there are REAL people hurting!!!!
My God!
That's all.

post something non-repetitive.

Amen to that! :bgrin2:

there are REAL people hurting!!!!


More Amen to that! :(

....over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

Hey Dan you get no Amen from me! :tongue2:

Nope Dan...not me...I'm done with it.
God help those if they and theirs go through this.....
This is the place that is supposed to be there for their "friends" who are in an ag.
I thank God in heaven no-one treated me this way when my marriage and life fell apart!
I'll go back to my "BLOG" now.....where the weather is nice.
Peace!

Nope Dan...not me...I'm done with it.
God help those if they and theirs go through this.....
This is the place that is supposed to be there for their "friends" who are in an ag.
I thank God in heaven no-one treated me this way when my marriage and life fell apart!
I'll go back to my "BLOG" now.....where the weather is nice.
Peace!

TD, your "BLOG" was never an issue for me. I simply asked if there should be a special spot on AL for blogs so that all that wanted to blog could have a spot to put them. Maybe someone like Amina, who is having a baby, might like to blog about her experiences as a mom in a new country. I remember the "if it's not love, what is it" blog. Many folks followed Kat7, Roisin and the other gal. And maybe there might be special rules for those that blog that mirror 80% of the main forum but have a different twist to accommodate a blogging style. No one has answered that question, except maybe one person. Everyone else has pooped on me.

Your blog has had folks that wouldn't participate here do so. I think that's nice. I was a Social Computing Business Analyst for cripes sakes. It was my job to encourage community on the internet.

I wish people would stop being offended by merely asking a question. Maybe I've overstayed my welcome at AL.

Ufffffffffffffffffff I am so sorry to see so many old timer saying that maybe they have overstayed their welcome or that they may be leaving soon.

Please everybody do NOT, I say ,do not, take t so personal. Like I have mentioned it many times over and over again, this is JUST an internet site after all...

Consider that and do not let it get to you!

SMILE life is beautiful. :bgrin2:

Oh for heaven's sake Bub's...that was a raze ...I am not offended or upset about it at all.
I'll admit, I was at first but....it's ok.
Life is good!
Pop on over to the BLOG anytime lady :yes:
Besides, I need to try and hustle you outta that 4th chair :p
Blessings, TD

No one has answered that question, except maybe one person. Everyone else has pooped on me.


For what it's worth....

I think it's a brilliant idea. I don't know why I haven't said so already. :o

Well since I didn't know until recently what a blog was lol...I couldn't answer :o
I too think it is a spendid idea!!!

And maybe there might be special rules for those that blog that mirror 80% of the main forum but have a different twist to accommodate a blogging style. No one has answered that question, except maybe one person. Everyone else has pooped on me.

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I wish people would stop being offended by merely asking a question. Maybe I've overstayed my welcome at AL.

crap on that, crap on that indeed! You have not over stayed your welcome, I really wish people would stop saying that and disappearing. ...so another thing that I cant stand..


I CANT STAND PEOPLE DISAPPEARING!!!

I think that there should be a "personal corner" or where people can be their own personal thread moderators where they can control their non-AGR posts, as long as they dont break the rules and other's dont break the rules then maybe they moderate and when I say moderate, I guess I mean more about having the ability to ban certain instigators from posting...even though I dont agree with it, seems a bit too controlling and really whats the point when that happens BUT SIGH...it's too much to ask for people to just accept that blogs and posts belong to the community. It really just seems that this Forum pie gets divided more and more,..one has to wonder what will be left when everything is sliced and diced...nothing really.

Originally Posted by Angel
Sweet a 4th thread.:p


It's like a weed really someone hurry get the weed be gone. Dan get the whip...



Smootches to the Lurkers!:lips: because really they need love too! :p:p

Angel...8 is my lucky number..

Oh man....Mine too!!! I love 8!!! Are you as excited as me for 2008?! I think it's going to be a fabulous year! :D

Nadine.

Dan get the whip...

Why must you people feed me those kind of lines? *LOL*

Why must you people feed me those kind of lines? *LOL*

LOL..what...how about get the whip pleeeeassse? :p:p

Dan are you trying to say you do it over and over and over THEN get the whip
OR do you get the whip first THEN do it over and over..I am so confused NOW!

:D:tongue2:

TD, your "BLOG" was never an issue for me. I simply asked if there should be a special spot on AL for blogs so that all that wanted to blog could have a spot to put them. Maybe someone like Amina, who is having a baby, might like to blog about her experiences as a mom in a new country. I remember the "if it's not love, what is it" blog. Many folks followed Kat7, Roisin and the other gal. And maybe there might be special rules for those that blog that mirror 80% of the main forum but have a different twist to accommodate a blogging style. No one has answered that question, except maybe one person. Everyone else has pooped on me.

Your blog has had folks that wouldn't participate here do so. I think that's nice. I was a Social Computing Business Analyst for cripes sakes. It was my job to encourage community on the internet.

I wish people would stop being offended by merely asking a question. Maybe I've overstayed my welcome at AL.


1. No, you have not overstayed your welcome at AL.

2. If you ask a question that people perceive to be offensive, you can expect an irritated or offended response.


3. What if you transferred the mentality you're expressing away from the blog issue and applied it to ethnic or religious groups?? Imagine this snippet of a conversation:

Jim, your being a Mormon was never an issue for me. I simply asked if there should be a special spot at the city park for Mormons so that all Mormons that wanted to witness for the Lord could have a spot to do that. Same for other religious folks too. Maybe someone like Amina, who recently converted to Islam, might like to have a special area to witness for Allah and share the love of her experiences as a Muslim in a new religion.....

Now, doesn't the aforementioned quote sound perfectly ridiculous?? Of course it does. I may not appreciate any Mormons who come knocking on my door, but I consider them Christians with the same right to be integrated with the rest of us. Some folks - like myself - resent the need to emphasize the labeling, categorization and setting aside of certain people within our community in this or that little cyber ghetto. I fully understand that you are a non-bigoted person and mean no harm, but it's definitely irksome. :mad:

I think part of my resentment stems from the way the Politics section was shunted off "downstairs" and split off from ChitChat. I'm fully aware of the reason - it's because a lot of people felt that it was too divisive and inflammatory, that people don't come to Agelesslove to get into politics, that it would be nice if "politics people" just had their own little area to "politick" in.

What burned me up about that - and still does - is that it's an artificial distinction and I believe it was pumped up by folks who have the least interest in politics. In the face-to-face world, ordinary, knowledgeable, civic-minded, engaged people routinely talk about politics in some way or other, and don't save it for a special time of day or a special place. If you major in the subject at university, you learn that politics is everything and everywhere. Almost every single move we make is affected by politics in some way.

County Commissioners planning to raise real estate taxes?? Homeowning folks want to talk about it as soon as they see friends who also own homes! Sheriff's Department planning to slash patrols for your area of the County despite an increase in burglaries and car thefts?? Again, folks with cars and other nice things want to talk about it as soon as they get a chance.

I'm still not making sense?? Let me try to put it another way: As a veteran (a minority group protected by anti-discrimination laws) it ENRAGES me to read a news story of the latest troops who've been killed in Afghanistan or Iraq.... and find it BURIED on page A-7 or something like that. The newspaper editors are doing something very similar to what you are proposing - which is to take a segment of the community and remove their concerns, tragedies and sorrow from center stage, and push them straight to the back of the news. Out of sight, out of mind. I think "HOW DARE YOU???" :mad: It's sooooo disrespectful.

If you still don't get it after my using those two analogies, I doubt I can explain it adequately.... but I'd like to thank you for reading this far.

I also have wondered why Debate has to be "segregated" and members have to ask to get entry, like kindergartners. I probably would not participate much anyway, as there is not liklihood of changing any minds, and is most likely to be unpleasant. There are any number of other forums out there, much more suited to that which I enjoy.

Are we, as veterans, really considered a "minority"?:confused:

1. No, you have not overstayed your welcome at AL.

2. If you ask a question that people perceive to be offensive, you can expect an irritated or offended response.


3. What if you transferred the mentality you're expressing away from the blog issue and applied it to ethnic or religious groups?? Imagine this snippet of a conversation:


1. I'm certain that I have.

2. Well, I've been here a long time and have been offensive very little. Perhaps folks should consider the source of the suggestion or question?? That's disappointing to me in all honesty.

3. I wouldn't do what you suggested and transfer the mentality because it doesn't apply to my suggestion.

My feeling is that there isn't a desire for change on the board. I think there needs to be more balance here.

My thoughts are:

1) The mods should rotate on and off the team after a period of time that the board admins determine to avoid mod burnout, to keep a diverse team handling a diverse community, share the wealth/burden of moderation, etc.

2) There needs to be more respect of people under the age of 30 here, both YM and YW. It would be good to get some of the younger members as mods and or forum leaders.

3) I view the blogs as places where some members who are shy to come out into the full forum feel comfortable. TD's blog has shown that to be true.

4) A vote should be taken of the membership about debate and if it should stay/go. I don't belong, but apparently it causes more hard feelings than anything.

I feel like Ghandi, that you have to BE the change you want to see in this world. If all the energy that was expended here in trying to pressure or persuade others was turned into action, maybe it would have an effect on both ourselves and others that we'd never had imagined before.

I don't expect anything to come of any of these suggestions, but it feels nice to get my final thoughts on the matter down.

Actually, debate isn't a problem these days, there hasn't been a post there in over a month. In retrospect, making it optional probably doesn't fix the real problem of needing a place where true venting without being treated like a child can occur.

Personally, I think there needs to be a male admin, who actually participates along with a female. Too much of the bias here is that males are allowed to say whatever they want, without being modded, where women are basically tut tutted and told to be nice.

I'm a really old timer here too, and under Allana, we still were modded, but not for feelings and expressing them, like we are now, but for obscenity and rudeness, such as name calling. Honest opinion was never asked to be removed, like it is here at the whim of a mod.

I think maybe I as well, need to be gone, or only in the relationship section. I despise being patronized and condescended to. I really don't need it in a place that used to be like home to me.

Actually, debate isn't a problem these days, there hasn't been a post there in over a month. In retrospect, making it optional probably doesn't fix the real problem of needing a place where true venting without being treated like a child can occur.

Personally, I think there needs to be a male admin, who actually participates along with a female. Too much of the bias here is that males are allowed to say whatever they want, without being modded, where women are basically tut tutted and told to be nice.

I'm a really old timer here too, and under Allana, we still were modded, but not for feelings and expressing them, like we are now, but for obscenity and rudeness, such as name calling. Honest opinion was never asked to be removed, like it is here at the whim of a mod.

I think maybe I as well, need to be gone, or only in the relationship section. I despise being patronized and condescended to. I really don't need it in a place that used to be like home to me.

your lastt line said what I feel girl! I think somethings been put in the eggnog..seems the closer the holidays the more crabby we all get

Actually, debate isn't a problem these days, there hasn't been a post there in over a month. In retrospect, making it optional probably doesn't fix the real problem of needing a place where true venting without being treated like a child can occur.

Personally, I think there needs to be a male admin, who actually participates along with a female. Too much of the bias here is that males are allowed to say whatever they want, without being modded, where women are basically tut tutted and told to be nice.

I'm a really old timer here too, and under Allana, we still were modded, but not for feelings and expressing them, like we are now, but for obscenity and rudeness, such as name calling. Honest opinion was never asked to be removed, like it is here at the whim of a mod.

I think maybe I as well, need to be gone, or only in the relationship section. I despise being patronized and condescended to. I really don't need it in a place that used to be like home to me.


A tired wave of , yep, sounds about right. It seems alot of us old-timers just don't belong. Or is it not old-timers per se, but women that are "too old" , been here too long, post too much (or post too little) in too big a gap, with too young a guy....:rolleyes:

Along with the usual period drama "du jour" (how do you say drama of the 6 +/- months?) I am sensing a new sub sulk wafting about: too many old women here. So what is the cut off, hmmmm over 50? over 45? hit 40 and start looking for the door? Great more garbage for me to "grow a thicker skin, you are just too sensitive" ....that or just shut up and don't post. :cool:

your lastt line said what I feel girl! I think somethings been put in the eggnog..seems the closer the holidays the more crabby we all get

GG, I'm not the least bit crabby. With all respect to you, it is about being patronized and condescended to and many other things.

I'm hoping for change but change is difficult.

GG, I'm not the least bit crabby. With all respect to you, it is about being patronized and condescended to and many other things.

I'm hoping for change but change is difficult.

heh i know your not crabby hun...I just meant with all the bitter behavior i seen lately it worries me:) (not you love)

I have to agree with you on this. I shake my head most of the time anymore because Lately all I see is angry mean things instead of support...its like no one cares how others feel anymore and your right change would be WONDERFUL..but it takes hard work:(

huggles ya know i love ya!


Sometimes as lady said you have to be a certain way a certain age gap and so on to belong...It gets pretty old after a while...I just want to be accepted as well as you and others...and not be put down for anything..lord knows we all have enough of that in our own lives:(

Bella, I agree about how the old moderation seemed less "intrusive" to posts that were only giving honest truths and opinions, and those who did "name call" or who were plain down out rude (and these peeps haven't even come CLOSE to what we had seen on here, right? :tongue2:) were then banned. I feel at times like we are being talked down to and chastized when we are only telling it how we see it without being really nasty! People have to have tough skin on the net as it is NOT for wimps!

And as for we "older women" I do see a shift here, but one has to keep in mind that we ARE getting older and many of the "new guard" is now the age that we were when we joined. BUT that does not mean that we still do not have valuable insight or may need help, too (like my "we are our own worst enemy thread".) PLUS to me, what we have discussed til we are blue in the face, this site was more for "older women" and "younger men"; and not just that the women were older! But that is just how I see it, for I think we have different problems and concerns than younger women who just happen to be involved with even younger men!

And as an aside, Bella... please do not go as your input and successful relationship is nothing but valued by those here. PLUS, you were the first to help me when I came here! :bgrin2:

And Ladyinwaiting about your line" but women that are "too old" , been here too long, post too much (or post too little) in too big a gap, with too young a guy...." Well that be ME!!!!! :bgrin2:


Regards....

1. I'm certain that I have.

2. Well, I've been here a long time and have been offensive very little. Perhaps folks should consider the source of the suggestion or question?? That's disappointing to me in all honesty.

3. I wouldn't do what you suggested and transfer the mentality because it doesn't apply to my suggestion.

Bubs.... You seemed genuinely puzzled as to why your proposal was met with such hostility.

I merely sought to explain to you, by analogy, why others might feel the way they do. If you refuse to participate in the exercise, or are more intent on defeating the analogy ;), you are free to continue to be puzzled at peoples' reactions or wonder why you are being "pooped on."

Declaring oneself non-offensive or mostly non-offensive is not really a helpful approach in my opinion because it implicitly personalizes the dispute when personalization is not the issue.

Your suggestion on how to organize Agelesslove posters who have an unorthodox posting style would've been offensive coming from anyone.

Anyway, I don't speak for everyone - just myself - and now you have my take.

Bella, I agree about how the old moderation seemed less "intrusive" to posts that were only giving honest truths and opinions, and those who did "name call" or who were plain down out rude (and these peeps haven't even come CLOSE to what we had seen on here, right? :tongue2:) were then banned. I feel at times like we are being talked down to and chastized when we are only telling it how we see it without being really nasty! People have to have tough skin on the net as it is NOT for wimps!

And as for we "older women" I do see a shift here, but one has to keep in mind that we ARE getting older and many of the "new guard" is now the age that we were when we joined. BUT that does not mean that we still do not have valuable insight or may need help, too (like my "we are our own worst enemy thread".) PLUS to me, what we have discussed til we are blue in the face, this site was more for "older women" and "younger men"; and not just that the women were older! But that is just how I see it, for I think we have different problems and concerns than younger women who just happen to be involved with even younger men!

And as an aside, Bella... please do not go as your input and successful relationship is nothing but valued by those here. PLUS, you were the first to help me when I came here! :bgrin2:

And Ladyinwaiting about your line" but women that are "too old" , been here too long, post too much (or post too little) in too big a gap, with too young a guy...." Well that be ME!!!!! :bgrin2:


Regards....

I agree with SB here. There seems to be two groups, Older women with younger men where the women are older, and Older women with younger men where the women are younger than the women in the first group.

There has been clashes, and I think for both groups of Older women there are different issues at hand. I value the experience of the older women because they have been where I am and I can see what the different paths might be that go from this point. Also though, when there are "mistakes" I can learn from them.

Having been a YW with an OM in the past, I like reading the YW/OM threads because I have also been there and can understand the hopes and fears of the YW in those threads. I do feel that the YW on this thread are under represented on this forum, I would also like to see a more diverse moderation team that includes yw/ow/ym/om, but I do not believe that we have enough unbiased men within this forum. I have noticed a tendency for threads that have a slant to them that try to sway opinion another thing that I cant stand ..lol. Doesnt seem like a very honest way to start a thread if youre trying to guide it to the opinion that you want.

Ah. I need a RockStar.

but I do not believe that we have enough unbiased men within this forum. I have noticed a tendency for threads that have a slant to them that try to sway opinion another thing that I cant stand ..lol. Doesnt seem like a very honest way to start a thread if youre trying to guide it to the opinion that you want.

Ah. I need a RockStar.

I agree with you completely, Strwbrries. Good luck with changing that around, ok?

I agree with you completely, Strwbrries. Good luck with changing that around, ok?

Oh goodness no, no thank you! :p I dont have that much time to devote to that monumental feat.

But its nice to know Im not the only one who has noticed.

"Doesn't seem an honest way to start a thread if you are trying to guide to the opinion you want" --Strw

This is what I've been trying to say!!!

The whole attitude of "I'm right because I say I'm right, and no amount of evidence to the contrary will change that!" doesn't help the community any... and further working in the background to make others come into compliance is just... well... depressing...

The whole attitude of "I'm right because I say I'm right, and no amount of evidence to the contrary will change that!" doesn't help the community any... and further working in the background to make others come into compliance is just... well... depressing...

Not to mention manipulative.

Not to mention manipulative.

Not to mention common. Must be because of their squishy brains.

Actually, debate isn't a problem these days, there hasn't been a post there in over a month.

Thanks for saying that, Bella, there have been so many comments about what goes on in the Debate Section by people that aren't members of the Debate Section, I thought there was a mole in there! :eek:

Now, doesn't the aforementioned quote sound perfectly ridiculous?? Of course it does. I may not appreciate any Mormons who come knocking on my door, but I consider them Christians with the same right to be integrated with the rest of us. Some folks - like myself - resent the need to emphasize the labeling, categorization and setting aside of certain people within our community in this or that little cyber ghetto. I fully understand that you are a non-bigoted person and mean no harm, but it's definitely irksome. :mad:

I think part of my resentment stems from the way the Politics section was shunted off "downstairs" and split off from ChitChat. I'm fully aware of the reason - it's because a lot of people felt that it was too divisive and inflammatory, that people don't come to Agelesslove to get into politics, that it would be nice if "politics people" just had their own little area to "politick" in.

What burned me up about that - and still does - is that it's an artificial distinction and I believe it was pumped up by folks who have the least interest in politics. In the face-to-face world, ordinary, knowledgeable, civic-minded, engaged people routinely talk about politics in some way or other, and don't save it for a special time of day or a special place. If you major in the subject at university, you learn that politics is everything and everywhere. Almost every single move we make is affected by politics in some way.


I think you're way out here Harrison. Sorry. :o

The blog section would be for people who WANT their posts to be construed and responded to in a particular way - without real advice. THerefore I think the analogy you used is faulty, as it's not about shunting people off into a different section, it's about letting them have somewhere with different rules appropriate to what they are looking for. The whole reason for it being a different section is that there can be different rules, as I see it.

I'll reiterate that I think it would be a good idea.

Also, I can completely understand why people wanted a separate section for discussion, so it's not in chit chat. Chit chat is light-hearted, a place for people to not feel like what they're saying is going to be contended. That belongs in discussion, not because it's politically minded, but because of the tone and nature of the conversations that will ensue. You seem to be relating it specifically to politics and I don't think that's the case.

I full understand debate being sectioned off too... there was a LOT of discussion about that before it happened, which was because it was causing problems elsewhere. Perhaps some of the topics on the discussion section should have been moved there recently, but generally people don't seem to want to get involved in there now!

Bella, Bubs, Lady, SB - Don't you DARE go anywhere!! :mad:

You have NOT overstayed your welcome and are needed more than ever!! If you're worried about the balance here imagine if you all left!! :eek:

I don't think we get modded any more than we were 3 years ago when I started? It seems every few months there is a wave of dissent and a bunch of people leave because it's either the mods are too tough or they aren't tough enough. Think about when Marie left - not tough enough vs. when Fos4scent & that group left because the mods were too oppressive.

Every day I see one complaint that the mods weren't fast enough to ban someone and another that they shouldn't have been involved at all. Does anyone use the report button?? Do the mods REALLY edit people for JUST giving their opinion or is there ususally more to it? I give my opinion all the time and it's not always nice but only once in 3 years have I ever been asked to change something that I truly felt wasn't me just spouting off, LOL!

Take a break if you must, but after all of these years you ladies HAVE to know that it's the ebb and flow of this place? Sometimes I just leave for a few days and take a breather and then I'm ready to go again. LOL

I guess I kind of look at this place like family. I have a LOT of people in my family that make me crazy or are just plain silly. I've learned to just sit back and shake my head and get a good chuckle... "That's Aunt Peggy for ya'. Here we go again!"

Actually, I'm starting to say that more and more about my Mother-In-Law!! :eek:

True story Kristin.....I completely agree!

Maybe everyone should play "mod" of the week lol!
Except me b/c it doesn't really bother me, I'm a little nuts, type too slow, and, pretty much pc illiterate :eek:

Not that I want to be one ...but how do mods get chosen for this site....seriously this is not a fishing expedition coz I do not have time or inclination....but I'm curious coz one day someone is a regular member then the next they are mods.....do you have a list of possibles and just choose new ones or are they elected or just whoever seems like a fit.....repeat this is not a slang at the mods process or me wanting to be one.....curious is all

Well, lets see...

When a position opens up, we ask all the mods for their suggestions for new mods, who they think might be good. We all put in suggestions...

Then we go back and check the history on those candidates, see how often they have been moderated etc.

Then the admins usually narrow it down to a couple candidates, and contact them and ask them if they have the time and energy to devote (checking in once a day five days a week), and if they are interested...

If that all works out, then we start training a new mod.

Hmmm, that leaves me out anyway :eek:

Then we go back and check the history on those candidates, see how often they have been moderated etc.


Not even the slightest chance that I ever become an AL mod :o :D :p :no: :no: :no:

Me either.


:eek: :p (just kidding!)

Thank for that Jo at least I know why no-one asked me now LOL.....