Was there a Message in the Massage

I've been receiving massages from professional masseuses for about 10 years. This is part of the physical maintenance I do for myself on a regular basis. My current masseuse is a lady my age named Judy, she is a partner with a younger lady named Marilyn in a business located only a few minutes from my home.

I've had 4 different masseuses in the last 10 years. In my experience I've never had a message session run beyond the scheduled time. If I schedule a one hour massage at 4 PM, the masseuse is ready for me at 4 PM, my massage will last until 5:10 or 5:15, that gives me time to get dressed and write a check while the masseuse puts fresh sheets on the massage table, so they will be ready for the next client who is scheduled at 5:30 (1 1/2 hours after the start of my 1 hour massage). Even if my massage is the last one scheduled that day, they never go beyond the 1 hour & 10 minutes or so they allot for my massage.

About a year ago I had a session with Judy's partner, Marilyn. I was Marilyn's last client of the day. After the massage Marilyn invited me to sit with her a while and we chatted for about 45 minutes. She seemed very interested in learning about me and my life. I wondered if she was "checking me out". I figured if she was interested she would arrange another opportunity to give me a massage in place of Judy. That never happened so I assumed she was just curious and friendly, and never gave it another thought.

I scheduled another massage appointment with Marilyn for last Friday, Judy was on vacation. This massage has left me reeling from the experience. I have never received such a thorough and relaxing massage. Normally 2 days after a massage I can feel knots beginning to form again in my neck and shoulders. Here it is 5 days after my massage and I still feel very "loose" in the neck and shoulder area, no knots to be found. Marilyn really went all out. Way beyond the call of duty, especially considering she had another client scheduled after my appointment. On top of that my massage lasted about 1 hour and 30 minutes or 1 hour and forty minutes. The next client was kept waiting in the lobby for almost a half hour.

During the massage Marilyn again asked a whole bunch of questions about my life and work, and I asked several about hers. However, there was one question that I think gave her away. She asked if I liked animals. That question did not fit in with the rest of our conversation, and there were no previous comments that would have led up to that question. That was definitely a "are we compatible" type of question.

During the conversation she asked where she could get a copy of my magazine. So after my massage I went home, picked up a copy of the magazine, and dropped it off at her business (she was busy with her next client). Later in the evening she called to thank me, her comment was "now I can get an idea what your life is like".

I mailed her a thank you card Monday, wrote a note inside acknowledging her extra effort and attention, and telling her "I got the message".

I think Marilyn is interested in me, what do you guys think?

the old guy

Well George, first of all I should probably say the responsible adult thing and say this person should not be abusing some client-massage therapist boundary of checking you out. This could be perceived as sketchy, though you did kind of dig it, and that's OK :cool:

Secondly, I will say if she is interested in you, props for getting a massage therapist. :yes:

And thirdly, that little extra boost in your rub down time is a little questionable. Best massage in a while you say? Hmmm, perhaps there was a little self-centered effort on her part for the extra work. And that animal question is kind of a date question. Also the comment about the magazine, she "wants to get to know more about your life". SO aggressive G-man.

Looks like you might have a live wire on your hands. Or, perhaps she has one in hers? Hmmm?

When does the next edition of your mag come out? Be sure to bring it to your next trip to the salon--especially for Marilyn!

Indeed a message in the hands, not in the bottle! :D

Now tell us, George, how much do you like her? :bgrin2:

Well, well George! You know she's got the hots for ya!:bgrin2:;)

Sounds pretty promising to me.......:yes:

OK I can see a number of possibilities here
1. As a loyal customer she does her job well and if it takes a little longer to get the job done then so be it
2. She does this with more than one client as she is naturally an effervescent person and unless you see her interacting with others you won't know
3. She does this with a number of clients that she thinks will benefit her in some way, either financially with tipping, or she is looking at what else you can offer her
4. Who knows what else she does as a sideline, it wouldn't be the first time that a little 'hanky panky' for extra money is offered and maybe she is sussing you out
5. And yes, maybe she is interested in you and is waiting for the invitation out?

As an aside, I get a weekly massage and if my masseus thinks I need longer than my appointed time she will give it te me because I have been going to her for such a long time so ths isn't uncommon

WELL.... I was totally on the "YES, duh!" Band wagon... BUT Mentally brings up some good points there... I wanted to be hopeful though and root for those things being blatent signs... I do understand the efferv-whatchamacall its (no spell checking tonight) I'm pretty much the same way... I might come off flirtatious when I'm working with customers... male or female doesn't matter I'm just very complimentative and talkative to others, and will go out of my way if I feel they're worth the extra effort/conversation/special treatment.

Personally though, my initial reaction was that yeah, she does seem to like you... SO maybe you can do what someone else says and make sure you personally deliver a copy of the new edition to her ;) couldn't hurt at the least to be *considerate* and keep her up on the mag since she seeme interested... hehe

Let us know if she calls or if you make another move... GL Georgeo I've got the pom poms out ;-) *muah*

I don't think providing extra customer service accounts for the personal questions and wanting a copy of your magazine (particularly the part about knowing something about your life, which doesn't strike me as a "good customer" sort of thing). I'd think someone in that kind of profession would be at least a little careful about not giving off the wrong impression. And if it's not the kind of operation that usually leaves customers waiting for half an hour, then there's probably something to it. Either way, you know where to find her and now you can ask what she thought of the magazine, etc. She definitely gave you a foot in the door.

George, drop a dime and find out, silly! You know what to do! :yes::yes::no::no:

Rebecca, I don't want to risk spoiling a nice client - masseuse relationship, so I'm treading slowly & carefully. I sent her a thank you card on Monday, thanking her for the extra effort, the last line I wrote was "I got the message". Unfortunately the card was returned by the post office for additional postage (irregular shaped letter). It should reach her today.

If she calls to thank me for the card I'll ask her if she'd like to do something fun, like a walk along the beach. If she doesn't call then I'll call her perhaps next week.

Alta, to answer your question, I don't know her well enough to know if I would find her personality to my taste. I'm certainly willing to go out a few times & find out.

I do know Marilyn well enough to know she had no ulterior motives. Like the slip she made when she asked if I liked animals, I think her closely guarded heart slips out without her knowing from time to time, which is what I suspect happened with my massage.

George

That doesn't really sound appropriate for the customer or the masseuse. :no:

Update.

I asked Marylin if she would like to hang out and get to know one another better ... she informed me she was presently involved with someone else.

So the hunt for an independently wealthy swimsuit model continues ...

by the way, today's massage was great! :bgrin2:

Mmmm I could totally use a massage... sorry it didn't work out George, at least there was no harm done and you can still get a great massage! You live in CA... I'm sure finding a swimsuit model is a lot easier there than in NY ;-)

bummer!:mad0136::Thud: a lucky lady will walk into your life when you least expect it because:yourock:

What a strange series of events... Definitely conflicting signals, almost as if she was testing the waters. I hope she isn't one of those women who simply does things to provoke a reaction... just to see whether she CAN. Yuck.

Actually P-11 it makes sense to me.

A confused message indicates a confused person. She's attracted to me, but involved with someone else.

Secondly, I will say if she is interested in you, props for getting a massage therapist


I am agreeing with that quote..HEHE

GO GEORGIE BOY!!

Actually P-11 it makes sense to me.

A confused message indicates a confused person. She's attracted to me, but involved with someone else.

Well that makes sense. From reading your account, I couldn't help thinking that she definitely was sending out "I'm interested signals". Kudos to you for having that kind of clarity.

Actually P-11 it makes sense to me.

A confused message indicates a confused person. She's attracted to me, but involved with someone else.

yep yep


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Dear George

I think you overdid it. I think it was not such a good thing to write her a thank you card and I think it was especially not a good thing to fill it with sentences like “I got the message“. -- Well, I think a lot, as you know… ;)

Now for the reasoning behind this. First of all: Gut feeling (very logical, indeed). Second: You came on too strong. In my humble opinion it is NEVER a good thing to kind of “explain” to women what they are doing, even it is obvious to anyone.

“I asked Marylin if she would like to hang out and get to know one another better ... she informed me she was presently involved with someone else.”

Ah, yep. See? “I can’t get to know you better because you obviously think I want something from you…”

And, by the way, if the second part of your sentence has something to do with the truth remains to be explored.

Don’t ask what I think you should do next. Nothing, I would recommend. Wait and see. Some fish yearn to be captured and eventually swim back to the hook themselves.

Next massage talk of flowers, animals and nature. How the wind blows gently through the sand hills along the ocean side on a warm summer's day and the sun is all dark yellow and red when it melts into the sea... Sigh...

BlueBird

Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink ...

The days of writing romantic things to women are a few decades past now, unless you're already dating them or married to them. Try that with a single woman who you're not yet dating, and you will likely get a negative reaction. Same thing applies to flowers, IMO.

How old is she? What used to be romantic (cards and flowers) is today often seen by YW as scary, creepy, stalkerish, etc.


You always THINK you know Wes, but you have no idea. I LOVE the thought of a written letter! Cards and flowers are romantic. I don't find them creepy, especially not if I already might be inclined to like someone... if we're not dating, that's encouragement that HE wants to and he's sweet enough to show he cares. I have to question if your "logic" is the reason you haven't snagged the one yet. You can't let a few people discourage you from doing something, because you tend to generalize from a few experiences and that's VERY bad....

G- She may have been confused a bit. There was probably an attraction and she flirted with you, but when the day ends there's someone else in the picture. Doesn't mean she didn't like you, or was teasing you or whatnot. I've been in a bad relationship where I wanted out and I tended to test the waters and flirt with guys I was attracted to, but for some reason I stayed in the crappy relationship b/c that's what I was used to. I don't know her, or the circumstances, just my experience.

Marilyn said "thank you for the card".

A person's response to a gift is a good indication where their heart is at. In your sister's case Wes, she already didn't like the guy who gave her flowers. That's why the gift creeped her out.

How would YOU feel if a woman you liked gave you a gift? Groovy, right? Now think, how would you feel if a woman you DIDN'T like gave you a gift? Ewww, right? See?

The card did not gross out Marilyn, she liked it. She's dropped too many hints for me to be mistaken. She likes me, that's cool, I like her too. Perhaps that's all it will ever be. The timing of my offer was not right for her. Her reasons, whatever they may be are her own. I'll honor & respect that. She sent out messages, perhaps not even realizing she was doing so, I responded in a respectful way, she turned down my offer, we move on. Professional relationship AND mutual liking intact.

G-E-L you're such a romantic! But you're a writer, so of course ....

Last Sunday I went out with a nice lady who is a high school teacher, working on her masters in special education. I gave the teacher flowers as we parted, she loved them. She already said yes to a second date, so we're spending a day together next weekend. My favorite beach, nice candlelight dinner, lots of conversation. She'll feel special. That's the greatest gift you can give anybody.

By the way, the teacher has a daughter who is a masseusse. I didn't know that ahead of time, honest! :bgrin2:

You've got a little bit of a mean streak. I was trying to be helpful. Excuse me. I was telling what my experiences have been and how that might relate. If your experiences or preferences are different, that's fine, but couldn't you say that without being mean?

I came here with the best of intentions today, as I always do. I was feeling good when I logged in, which is one reason I felt like logging in. Now I feel like ****. Thank you very much.

wes stop taking things to heart man...I get snapped at sometimes BUT I am still here..brush it off:yes: