Now I know why I hate Dr. Phil...

This is sooo offensive towards age gap relationships. What the hell does Dr. Phil know anyway...

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxC2BP31Avc
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cq8V4UV6gU
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TnLFn6JSp8
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogh5CjDMw9Q
Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGTVcXfT8o

DID you know he had a fling or rumor has it with a 19 year old intern a few years back....Sorry; Doctor phil is a balding wanna be blowhard with a case of I am god syndrome and a small dash of idiot on the side.

I never could understand why Oprah promoted him. :confused:

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LMAO!:bgrin2:

I remember watching this episode when I was on maternity leave and thinking oh god they really gross and honestly for me they were. The girl came off as very immature and the whole daddy and sugar baby thing turned my stomach. I can see why dr.phil thought that the relationship was doomed.

The other couple wasnt any better throughtout the show the younger guy kept bringing up worries and she wasnt even listening, all she kept saying was Im going to marry him. I can see why his friend was worried. He didnt deny trying to break things off and staying because she guilted him. Her list of concerns should have been taken care of before they got engaged....bleh!

For once I would like to see a Ag couple on the not so weirdo side.

I remember watching this episode when I was on maternity leave and thinking oh god they really gross and honestly for me they were. The girl came off as very immature and the whole daddy and sugar baby thing turned my stomach. I can see why dr.phil thought that the relationship was doomed.

The whole "daddy" thing is not something that I would particularly engage in, but I do know that lots of people do... even with no age-gap. She said that in saying "daddy" she doesn't mean as in "father" and even went as far as saying that would be "gross". So I'm not sure it's that big a problem. I'm not sure she came off as all that immature. The guys friend was basically attacking her and she was visibly upset, and I would be too if that was happening to me. The Friend and Dr Phil didn't really allow her to get a full sentence out and finish what she was talking about. But that's his style, isn't it... makes him look right and the guests look stupid.

The other couple wasnt any better throughtout the show the younger guy kept bringing up worries and she wasnt even listening, all she kept saying was Im going to marry him. I can see why his friend was worried. He didnt deny trying to break things off and staying because she guilted him. Her list of concerns should have been taken care of before they got engaged....bleh!

He never said it was because she 'guilted' him, he agreed that he "had concerns". Could be his friends are putting him under pressure because they can't handle the fact he's happy and wants to 'move on' with his life. We don't know the whole story behind his concerns and what's causing them.

For once I would like to see a Ag couple on the not so weirdo side.

I don't think they were 'that' weird, but certainly not representative of most age-gap couples.

Dr Phil looks like an idiot relating lack of experience dealing with the deaths of loved ones to being able to handle an adult relationship. WTH is that all about? Besides, lots of people have experienced that by 18. I had.

To me it seemed like Dr. Phil ended the show giving the feeling that ALL age gap relationships don't work. That was what really bothered me the most. I don't really care for the guy myself. His show seems to be turning into a freak show.

The whole "daddy" thing is not something that I would particularly engage in, but I do know that lots of people do... even with no age-gap. She said that in saying "daddy" she doesn't mean as in "father" and even went as far as saying that would be "gross". So I'm not sure it's that big a problem. I'm not sure she came off as all that immature. The guys friend was basically attacking her and she was visibly upset, and I would be too if that was happening to me. The Friend and Dr Phil didn't really allow her to get a full sentence out and finish what she was talking about. But that's his style, isn't it... makes him look right and the guests look stupid.

The whole daddy thing grossed me out, I have known women who call their men daddy or the spanish equivalent "papi" and it gross me out either way. I think if Clint ever called me momma or mommy I would take a lead pipe to him and thats after I throw every shoe at him. By the same token Im sure that Clint and I calling each other "baby" or babe is too sacchrine for other couples. I guess it would be a matter of preference, though the fact that momma and daddy are words that children use for their parents just makes the word go into a direction that has tones of incest and really the power of that word of having one partner in a position more superior or caretaker, spoiler etc etc is in my opinion not healthy. He spoils her, what does he get in return? Im going to assume sex since sex was one of the topics that he would not allow the show to discuss. His friend though was annoying and came off as racist from time to time, his comment about working as a cashier at a convenience store offended me more than anything dr. phil said. Don't get me wrong, I think dr. phil is an idiot.

He never said it was because she 'guilted' him, he agreed that he "had concerns". Could be his friends are putting him under pressure because they can't handle the fact he's happy and wants to 'move on' with his life. We don't know the whole story behind his concerns and what's causing them.

Honestly, from watching the show again I can see that he is happy but I can also see that she has him by the nads. She appears very controlling and I can see WHY he would have some concerns. She strikes me as one of those women who goes into a AG relationship and automatically expects the younger partner to start acting her age, sadly that isnt going to happen.

I don't think they were 'that' weird, but certainly not representative of most age-gap couples.

Dr Phil looks like an idiot relating lack of experience dealing with the deaths of loved ones to being able to handle an adult relationship. WTH is that all about? Besides, lots of people have experienced that by 18. I had.

I thought they were weirdos lol! I agree with the death of loved ones being a factor of being able to handle adult relationships is moronic, Ive buried far more people between the ages of 13 and 22 than I have between the ages of 25-35. So many friends have died from car accidents due to teenage drinking, or disease. I can however understand his point that life experience wise they are at different levels but as I've said before those levels are always dependent on what each individual has gone through, in some aspects Clint has gone through far more as he has had to care for an ailing parent and be responsible for taking care of not only them, but himself and the household all while working. I havent had to do that yet. So in that respect he is far ahead of me when it comes to that.

I would have to sadly and cringing have to agree with the loud mouth friend #1 and with dr. dork, because that young girl does come from modest means and that guy is throwing money at her a wowing her with gifts, trips and money...he's bought himself a girl. If he really wanted a normal relationship with a younger partner he wouldnt be buying her everything her little heart decides is cool at that moment because let me tell you the first time he does say No, she is going to freak. Plus the whole "If you really love each other you dont need a prenup" comment made me want to throw rocks at her. Lol.

He spoils her, what does he get in return?

He gets the feeling of being the 'provider'. He said that one thing lacking in his marriage was that she wouldn't LET him do that, and he wanted to.

Honestly... I think those 2 might be good for each other!

He gets the feeling of being the 'provider'. He said that one thing lacking in his marriage was that she wouldn't LET him do that, and he wanted to.

Honestly... I think those 2 might be good for each other!

He said his last girlfriend didnt allow him to lavish gifts one her, his wife died from cancer. That was another sore point, her immaturity in not allowing him to keep any pictures of his late wife. I can understand not wanting a shrine to the woman but 1 picture wouldnt hurt, she was his wife, she died have some damn respect..sheesh.

I think that if they marry, they will get divorced because she will eventually mature enough to want to do things for herself and he is going to not like that and she will then leave. If he marries her and allows her to change as she will as she gets older, then great it will work but if he expects her to be the same giddy, twirling on the beach look at me loook at me daddy type a girl in her 30's, then he is in for a big shocker.

I thought they were weirdos lol!

It depends what you mean. I know there have been people on here who have liked the "daddy" thing. perhaps there's different stages of 'weird'? besides, lots of people would think them 'weird' for even wanting to be with someone so older/younger. Who are we to judge?

I can however understand his point that life experience wise they are at different levels but as I've said before those levels are always dependent on what each individual has gone through, in some aspects Clint has gone through far more as he has had to care for an ailing parent and be responsible for taking care of not only them, but himself and the household all while working. I havent had to do that yet. So in that respect he is far ahead of me when it comes to that.

Some people simply never, ever, go through certain experiences in life. They never have hardships, never get their heart broken, etc. So going by that standard (that you HAVE to go through them all) then some people are never prepared for a relationship.

Plus the whole "If you really love each other you dont need a prenup" comment made me want to throw rocks at her. Lol.

Hmmm. Call me naive, but I don't believe in them either. Donna was warned by just about everyone that she should get one, to protect her daughter and herself in the future. If we break up I don't intend to take half of what she's got and leave her struggling to support herself and Savvy. I'm not a bad person, and as far as I can see only a bad person would do that. I want to feel trusted.

Obviously, being divorced changes your view a little bit, which means that it's not so much age but the experience of being divorced that makes the difference. Again, not everyone goes through that process, so you can't simply put it down to age.

He said his last girlfriend didnt allow him to lavish gifts one her, his wife died from cancer.

I thought he meant the wife? (edit: doesn't really matter anyway, the point is he gets something from it)

That was another sore point, her immaturity in not allowing him to keep any pictures of his late wife. I can understand not wanting a shrine to the woman but 1 picture wouldnt hurt, she was his wife, she died have some damn respect..sheesh.

That was the one thing... I think there's a compromise to be made there, but waking up to a picture of her is not right and I can see where she was coming from!

I think that if they marry, they will get divorced because she will eventually mature enough to want to do things for herself and he is going to not like that and she will then leave. If he marries her and allows her to change as she will as she gets older, then great it will work but if he expects her to be the same giddy, twirling on the beach look at me loook at me daddy type a girl in her 30's, then he is in for a big shocker.

Bit of an assumption. Not all people grow out of that, some women are still happy to be 'kept women'. I don't think he's necessarily looking for her to be still twirling on the beach when she's in her 30's (but why can't she anyway?) or to not be working and earning money anyway. I think he really just wants to be able to dote on someone and spoil them.

It depends what you mean. I know there have been people on here who have liked the "daddy" thing. perhaps there's different stages of 'weird'? besides, lots of people would think them 'weird' for even wanting to be with someone so older/younger. Who are we to judge?

Who are we to judge? Why Im RUBY darn it! I judge all!!

Seriously though, Ive known people who have created ways with jello and peanut butter that doesnt make them any less weird...yeah ok dont ask! I could never look at them the same way again after that tibit of information was relayed my way. lol

I get you though, on the wierdo for being in a AG relationship train of thought, just last Saturday my middle sister who is 3 years younger suddenly came to the realization that Clint is 1 year older than my younger brother...she looks at me and said YOU PEVERT! and I said ..OOOOh yeaaaaah! lol

She doesnt get it either and thinks the fact that Im happy with an much younger man weird, but in the end she doesnt care as long as I am happy.

Some people simply never, ever, go through certain experiences in life. They never have hardships, never get their heart broken, etc. So going by that standard (that you HAVE to go through them all) then some people are never prepared for a relationship.

Some aspects are universal though, like working, paying bills, checking accounts..being responsible for yourself is universal, even if it's just keeping house that's still universal. You need that experience otherwise you end up expecting someone else to take care of you and that's just not realistic or adult like.

Hmmm. Call me naive, but I don't believe in them either. Donna was warned by just about everyone that she should get one, to protect her daughter and herself in the future. If we break up I don't intend to take half of what she's got and leave her struggling to support herself and Savvy. I'm not a bad person, and as far as I can see only a bad person would do that. I want to feel trusted.

Naive!!!

Well I started from scratch after my divorce so there isnt anything for me to protect anything that I have now Clint and I have built up together so a prenup for me would not make sense. Youre not a bad person Rob but you are human and depending on the circumstances of the break up a prenup my come in handy. I know one lady whose husband cheated on her and if it hadnt been for the prenup she would have cleaned him out just out of sheer vindictiveness, whose to say what we are capable of in extreme circumstances?

Obviously, being divorced changes your view a little bit, which means that it's not so much age but the experience of being divorced that makes the difference. Again, not everyone goes through that process, so you can't simply put it down to age.

Being divorce changes your view ALOT *sings jadedddd, jadeeeeddddd*

I think divorce definately falls under experience not age. There's a 19 year old who is divorced at work, wrap your mind around THAT. Sheesh. marriage falls under experience, as does raising children. Again which is experience is an important quality in a partner is again dependent on the individual looking for a partner...though when love rears its damn head some qualities get blown out of the water and you learn to work with what is there and hope for the best. lol

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Maybe we should contact Dr. Phil. I just hate that shows like this could....discourage someone from taking a chance and having a truly wonderful relationship based simply on AGE.

I just don't understand the general fixation in society about AGE. Why does it matter? Why do people care?

Dang it, I get so frustrated!!!

Bit of an assumption. Not all people grow out of that, some women are still happy to be 'kept women'. I don't think he's necessarily looking for her to be still twirling on the beach when she's in her 30's (but why can't she anyway?) or to not be working and earning money anyway. I think he really just wants to be able to dote on someone and spoil them.

Doting and spoiling is fine, as long as he lets her grow up and stops when it finally gets old and believe me it gets old after a while. You dont want to feel like someones doll or like youre too delicate to do things yourself, or too stupid to think for yourself. The thing with that type of mentallity is that as the " the baby" no one is going to take you seriously, instead its going to be awww here sweetie have a new bauble and let the grown ups talk.

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Maybe we should contact Dr. Phil. I just hate that shows like this could....discourage someone from taking a chance and having a truly wonderful relationship based simply on AGE.

I just don't understand the general fixation in society about AGE. Why does it matter? Why do people care?

Dang it, I get so frustrated!!!

HONESTLY

because there are too many examples of older people taking advantage of younger people. We as a society take care of either the young or the very old because they are usually placed in roles of victim. I have noticed that when it comes to age gaps of people somewhere in between, middle age or mid 20's, 30's people dont usually care but if it's with a person who is very young then people are more wary because that might be someone who is being taken advantage of or the other way around someone with a person who is retirement age, again people are aware that unfortunately this group in our society can be taken advantage of.

Real healthy relationships with extreme age gaps are rare, lasting ones even more rare, people in this culture are not accustomed to it, now go to another country were it's the norm and Im sure that people wouldnt care. My grandmothers marriage was arranged when she was 15 and my grandfather was 22. In this day and age gross and grounds for jail time back then the norm.

I'm sorry but couples like that give us age-gappers a bad name. It was painful to watch how that girl behaved! Good Lord! :rolleyes:

I agree 100% with Strw and Bella!!!

It's like they purposely pick the most extreme or most ridiculous examples of couples they can find....

I just wonder if he would ever like to do a REAL show about, for lack of a better word, a normal couple who is trying to make this work.

I'd like to know how many age gap couples are actually successful long term, but I can't seem to find any data. I have known many men who were up to 20 years older than their wives and stayed married until the end. I don't personally know anyone other than myself, outside the people I know here, who have had the older woman situation.

It's like they purposely pick the most extreme or most ridiculous examples of couples they can find....

I just wonder if he would ever like to do a REAL show about, for lack of a better word, a normal couple who is trying to make this work.

I'd like to know how many age gap couples are actually successful long term, but I can't seem to find any data. I have known many men who were up to 20 years older than their wives and stayed married until the end. I don't personally know anyone other than myself, outside the people I know here, who have had the older woman situation.

Woot! I know some!

My late Aunt Trini was 10 years older than her husband. She was 58 when she passed from cancer and he was 48. They married when she was 27 and he was almost 18. She had a baby almost a year later so hmmmm. lol

Clint has a second cousin who is 18 years older than her husband, and theyre both elderly now and he looks older than she does, Clint often points them out as his role models because if they can make it work then so can we apparently.

I think it just depends really, I have AGR in my family where the women are older, it's the norm really though I think that currently Im the one with the youngest partner...and Clint has them in his family too with either women or men being the oldest..bigger gaps in ages on his side. It CAN work, but from everything that I have seen its damn hard, harder than most relationships, which is why I think its so damn rare.

His show reminds me of the talk shows in the early 90's all hype and shock value, I think if you want the AGR spoken about with a responsible tone you are going to have to go to someone who has a more serious venue and steer clear of Dr. Phil, Montel, Maury and :jerry:

Notice the definition of "cougar" as "older women who aggessively pursue or prey upon younger men."

Told you why I don't like that term for myself! :rolleyes: