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DHShogun

Angels Aid
08-10-2003, 02:15 PM
Hi all~

I know that I'm the last person anyone wants to hear from on this post but I have something to say. I was Craige's girlfriend for a year and a half and it was wonderful. He is an amazing person and I am very much hoping that someone on this message board will seriously think about a relationship with him. I am 47 years old but our relationship had love that was so strong, I thought I would always feel that way. Craige has a high level of maturity due to the many trials he has had over the years. He also has a keen wit and he's very intelligent. It is truly amazing the things he can do in spite of the wheelchair. He is a wonderful lover. He was just about to come and visit me all the way across the country when everything fell apart. I feel terribly about all this and I am not trying to string him along as someone said. It is just that I still care about him so much but if by talking to him I am causing him pain then maybe it is best that I back out of the picture completely. I'll let him be free to give his heart to one of you possibly. I hope he finds the love he craves. He's very special to me and I will never forget him. I will miss you, Craige, but please, go find the happiness you deserve.

Genevieve
08-10-2003, 02:22 PM
I am truly sorry that things did not work out for the two of you... but, it is my understanding that you basically dumped him after receiving a phone call from a man you dated 30 years ago and had broken up with 8 times! Now, I really do not want to become involved here, and by posting, perhaps I have just stuck my foot in it...

But.. if you still care for Craige, and love him as you say, then the two of you need to talk about it, no BS whatsoever. I think it's deplorable when one person won't even meet the other one at the last minute, after all that was said. I think you owe him that much. If he is so great, why are you giving him up? You sound like a martyr.. giving him up for his own good. Trying to pass him off on Ageless women, to ease your conscience? Sorry, but sounds like a bunch of garbage to me.

Just my two cents..now I'll go away.

Gen

hunny
08-10-2003, 06:51 PM
I am confused, you had planned on a future with him, plannned a future TOGETHER, then all of the sudden backed out with little explanation, or none?

My YM had a woman before me that planned a future with him, planned marriage, after a internet relationship of one year, than backed off suddenly before they were to travel and meet in person. And she never gave a reason why, she just kinda vanished.

WHAT IS THE DILLY_YO?????? What in the world is your reason for having such feelings than backing out?

You cant believe how much pain my YM's girlfriend caused him. He was left confused and insecure. He will FOREVER wonder what it was that scared her off., what could be wrong with him , and it will haunt him for a long time.

Believe me, you have a reason for breaking it up, and you owe it to Craig, so he can move on, and feel love for himself. even if it is something about him, then he needs to know, so he can be aware of whatever before his next relationship.

If the problem is with your life, that you want someone else, or whatever, then Craig can feel confident that you two werent meant to be, or whatnot.

I really get pissed when people dont have the courage to give a reason for a breakup.

It is like being a chicken, and not having the courage, It is VERY SELFISH, and cruel to the other person.

YOU NEED TO BE HONEST AND FESS UP if you REALLY love Craig and want him to have a future, but without you. He needs to know, or he'll be left guessing and wondering the rest of his life.

He is hurting, and cause you left him confused, he turned to us.

I hope you can do the mature thing. You owe him a clear explanation

Hunny

Bella
08-10-2003, 09:22 PM
It's not always the men that take the chicken ship way out when they can't handle it. Sometimes it's women. I'm sorryTerri, but if you didn't have any intention of ever meeting in real life, then you had no business stringing him along for a year and a half. If you couldn't take it, then don't use the baloney, of pretending you only want what's best for him. Don't be saying it fell apart, when you changed your mind. And for Pete's sake, don't be stringing him along, as a spare or something, nothing makes me angrier than that. If you want the other dude, then go for it, but don't play with Craige's heart any more. I hold David's trust very sacred, and I wouldn't dream of screwing him over like that.
At least be honest with yourself if you can't be with him.
You're right, he is a very special guy, and I'm just sorry you take that so lightly.
I really hope you and Mr. Right-off-and-on, are happy.
Mostly, I hope Craige realizes how much life still has to offer. Well, I know he does, he's a toughie, and he's doing fine.

Adri
08-11-2003, 01:12 AM
Oh Trish, Im so proud of you:)
You rock girl

Tru
08-11-2003, 06:52 AM
I second the vote that Trish rocks!

I haven't gotten to know Craige but I have read his story and it sure seems he got the shaft. I am glad he ended up here and has made such good friends.

DHShogun
08-12-2003, 03:35 PM
http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t44.jpg

"Hi, I'm Craige."

__________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t109.jpg

"Hi, I'm Terria."

__________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t89.jpg

"I love you, Terri, lets spend our lives together."

"Ok, I love you so much."

"Take this shiny rock as a token of my love."

"Oooo!"

__________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t79.jpg

"This guy called and I don't think I want to be with you anymore, Craige."

"Nooooooo, please don't do this to me."

__________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t69.jpg

"I'm leaving you and am going to spend my life with him instead, you're not good enough."

"Ouch, my heart."

__________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/gallery/screens/t43.jpg

"Bye Craige, I don't want you anymore."

_________________________________________

http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/gallery/screens/c32.jpg

"You suck, like so much."

Genevieve
08-12-2003, 04:26 PM
DHShogun.. YOU ROCK!!

Tru
08-12-2003, 06:15 PM
DHShogun...you have graduated with honors from "MariaLux's School of Smiley's". You are now "Dr.DHShogun PhD" :D

HeatherLynn
08-12-2003, 06:43 PM
DHShogun that was so good!! LOL.

yellowrose
08-12-2003, 08:46 PM
. I'll let him be free to give his heart to one of you possibly. Oh God, how "sweet" of you. I am sure that he does not need your blessing or help in finding someone. :rolleyes:

foxyeyes
08-12-2003, 09:25 PM
Mine is not gonna be a popular message to everyone.....BUT sorry people I smell deception....

How sweet that this woman comes to board telling us that craige is such a great lover when she hasn't even met him muchless been with him sexually and oh so sweet of her to post a personal add for him.... " to give his heart to one of you possibly. I hope he finds the love he craves.


Yes craige is so creative in his postings.....and I wonder how far his imagination goes.....


sorry if this isn't the case and Im reading more into it....but this is what I see.....deception.... and its not on the womans part here....

The internet is a wonderous thing....u can be anyone you wanna be ;)

~*foxyeyes*~

DHShogun
08-12-2003, 09:35 PM
"How sweet that this woman comes to board telling us that craige is such a great lover when she hasn't even met him muchless been with him sexually and oh so sweet of her to post a personal add for him...."

We talked a lot and thought of ways to do certain things and maybe she feels I would be, I don't want to talk more about that because I don't feel it is any of your business.

"sorry if this isn't the case and Im reading more into it....but this is what I see.....deception.... and its not on the womans part here...."

Well MariaLux can check the IP's. Also I could probably call up the ex and get her to call you if you would like. I didn't ask her to come here, and I have made good friends already and don't need this. I'd have done better.

I came on this board looking for help, and I have received that. If you think I made story about my ex up, feel free to think that. But you would be dead wrong and I would be more than happy to prove it to you.

Now would you like to have Maria check the IP addresses, or the phone thing?

foxyeyes
08-12-2003, 10:23 PM
Yes I understand you have made friends here and thats wonderful but you were looking for someone since day one when u posted on the other thread....she doesn't want me is there anyone here that does?...maybe you said it light heartedly and I do feel your pain and hope that I am not correct on my thinking that its a ploy to play on peoples emotions...sorry some people do DO that on the internet


Sorry if I am wrong in this case it just seemed a tad bit convenient to me....sure maria can check the IP address does it tell the state it comes from as well?since a person can have a new IP address every time they log in if they are on dial up ......Im curious now.....

~*foxyeyes*~

DHShogun
08-12-2003, 10:37 PM
Looking for someone since day one? Day one I made a long post which ended in "How do I keep her love?". HOW the hell is that looking for someone?

Look, this is not a case of IF you are wrong, it is a case of you ARE wrong and I will prove it to you if you like. I could try and find a way to have a friggin conference call and have us both call you at the same time and you can check your caller I'd. I don't really want to call her at this point but if it means proving you wrong, I'm more than willing.

Now as far as the IP's changing everytime you log on, that is only the case with dial up. Now I am on a cable modem, so my IP is static, and a moderator or an admin can check every IP log for every post and it will be the same. However the ex has a dial up. BUT her IP range will be almost the same except for the first few numbers. Now you can get a trace and see that the first few numbers will be for the prefix of the area in Idaho she is from, and the prefix won't change.

What problem do you have with me? Did I do something to you I am not aware of? You could have came and said what you thought lightly, but you decided to go for the condecending route in your post.

foxyeyes
08-12-2003, 10:59 PM
I have no problem with you but I do have a problem with the oh woe is me attitude...I do understand she hurt u but yes if u go back over that thread ...the day u say she dumped me u ask if anyone wants you....then u talk about wanting the daughter... i realize u want someone but playing up your problems does not get good results. Maybe it wasn't you who wrote this but it just seemed so ironic i couldn't help myself....and when i saw her name on for a few minutes the other night...not even checking this thread and then like 10 minutes later she's gone and U magically appeared...just seemed odd....

anyway thats just the way i saw it..sorry to ruffle your feathers and hope you find what your looking for..

take care

~*foxyeyes*~

Adri
08-12-2003, 11:16 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by foxyeyes
[B][SIZE=3][COLOR=....and when i saw her name on for a few minutes the other night...not even checking this thread and then like 10 minutes later she's gone and U magically appeared...just seemed odd.... QUOTE]

I also noticed that too. i saw Angels aid and then 1 min after she left DH came in....
I have nothing against DH either, and i think he is a great guy too, but this just called my attention.

DHShogun
08-12-2003, 11:19 PM
Woe is me? I don't need yours or ANYONE elses pity. You spend one day in my shoes before you talk about me complaining about my problems. I came here when I was depressed and at the lowest point in my life, health, college, job, and love problems happens all at once, so excuse me for complaining. But guess what? I snapped out of it, and I pulled myself up by the bootstraps and have moved on, I got up and am going to keep getting up. You find someone who snapped out of their life falling appart all at one quicker than I did. All things considered, I think I did pretty damn well.

Now as far as the comment I made, that was said in jest. And I asked about the daughter because I liked her prior to being involved with her mother.

Just stop insinuating that I'm a liar. I said I didn't make that post. And I am offering to prove it. If you won't except my offer to prove it to you, then at the very least stop saying "Maybe you didn't make that post...."

SnowPrincess
08-12-2003, 11:32 PM
Totally nuts :rolleyes:
PS people break up everyday for you that forgot that! LOL weither real life or Internet........ Thats why we are human and so distingtive, we can CHANGE our minds!!


PS Foxy and Adri, I noticed too ;)

But I am game to beleive that DH was so devistated that he gave the older lady the link here so she might read some of his posts and he maybe even asked her to post??

:confused:
Who the FFuck knows:confused:

DHShogun
08-12-2003, 11:45 PM
I gave her the link here and asked her to post and talk to people a long time ago before I even posted here. I asked her to come on so she can see that there are other people like us, and told her about bella since she was in an almost identicle relationship.

And hypothetically, why would I log on her account and not even post anything?

I can ask her to call any of you guys if you want to, I think she might. I'll prove it if I have to.

Carazy
08-13-2003, 12:58 AM
Ok, I neither personally know DHShogun nor ever talked to him, just going from my impression of his posts etc., but to "fake" his x-SO would imho opinion require someone either very immature or a kind of obsessive fixation.

Apart from his original thread where he was obviously hurting understandably a lot, I haven't got the impression from his other posts that either trait applies to him, so on that basis I don't think he faked the thread.

Yes, you can do lots of things on the internet, but either way, who cares, really, as long as no one asks you to hand out your credit card details or your home address ;) - and even then it's your call .. :p

End of story for me there ;)

DHShogun
08-13-2003, 01:23 AM
Thank you Carazy. BTW, have you talked to bella? She and I both met someone in a MMORPG, and I think you have too. I used to play Asheron's Call.

Jo-Admin
08-13-2003, 01:59 AM
Just so we can say we did, I checked the IP addresses for you. They are different. One is an AOL account, and the other is not...another company, apparently cable. Hope that helps out.

*hugs* everyone.

DHShogun
08-13-2003, 02:05 AM
Comcast ;)

Carazy
08-13-2003, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by DHShogun
Thank you Carazy. BTW, have you talked to bella? She and I both met someone in a MMORPG, and I think you have too. I used to play Asheron's Call.

I have been reading Bella's posts and yes, they have helped a lot ;)

And I used to play AC before I got into DAoC ;) it's a nice game, still, but the grafix suck in comparison ;)

Bella
08-13-2003, 07:23 AM
I have talked to Craige, not to the ex, but I can guarantee that he was devastated by all this. He's getting over it well. He's tough and has learned acceptance and survival at a very young age is all.
I also know he'd given her the website, before she dumped him.
I just don't get why someone would question why she'd come here to try to smooth her conscience.
I, for one, am really glad he found this place before the break up was official. I happen to know from experience how it feels to have people shrug off your pain by saying "oh well, how much could it mean, it's just someone off the net"
At least here he found people who understand how real it is, "just on the net".
Well, most anyway.
Hugs, Craige, don't let it get to you.

foxyeyes
08-13-2003, 09:15 AM
Thanks for checking on that Joanna I stand corrected. I apoligize Craige.

but Ladies lets take a reality check here....are you saying that we/you have never been DUPED on this forum by someone that you thought oh no they WOULD never do that....one I can think of for instance was....WALKER ....yes I was skeptical as were a couple others here sorry to have brought it up but thats how I felt it wasn't anything against Craige...I am not some horrible woman out to hurt this guy I tend to be one that is detail oriented and some details seemed a bit fishy to me anyway.

I have apoligized and now I am backing off this thread... Good luck Craige there are some really nice women here hopefully someone will become more then friends with you..:)

~*foxyeyes*~

DHShogun
08-13-2003, 10:48 AM
Thanks foxy, I hold no grudge, anyway I got a long day ahead of me so I gtg I'll be back on later, I'll tell you guys more when I get back.

HeatherLynn
08-13-2003, 11:59 AM
I also play an online roleplaying game, text only. Not gonna say which one simply to keep my YM's privacy in tact. Ours is a rather small world (the game we play).

We met in this game by the way. And it went from there to in IM's and then from there to text messages and from there to the telephone.

When we started to hang out in our game we both said SO FIRMLY "I dont want to get involved in real life " . I mean we made a big deal out of it, both of us LOL.
To the point of we had this talk about how it must stay online and in game and agreed and told everyone how happy we were that we both felt the same about this.

Well that didnt last did it!!

Anyway, DShogun, I wouldn't take anything too much to heart about anyone questioning you if that post was real. That is the nature of online is to question and to doubt, Unfortanetely. At least for me it is. I question and doubt my guy much more than normal because its online :( I wish I didnt have to be that way but I believe its prudent.

And I believe that he is for real but I am not going to be 100% convinced for some time !!

So if anyone here ever doubted you I'm sure its just them being in protective mode.

In any case that pictorial thing was damn funny!!!

marcy
08-13-2003, 01:55 PM
I am also very new to this board, so i have to say prior to this thread Craig's story was unfamiliar to me. However, I was immediately drawn to it because my relationship is online, moving towards real life. We also met playing an online game (i will keep that private for the same reasons a previous poster mentioned). It is possible to have a sexual/romantic/loving relationship online. I definately consider my ym a lover in some profound sense of that word.

Online relationships are highly emotional and deeply bonding. They are inherently intimate on a level that you cannot appreciate unless you have experienced one. Studies have proven that online relationships tend to reveal the higher self faster and more intimately than in real life. Simply not understanding something first hand doesn't negate or invalidate its existance.

DH...your story is so heart-breaking it made me feel a bit nauseas to read it. I'm glad to see you have built a community of support for youself here.

My YM is a member of this community and reads the boards. I drew this one to his attention, but he had already read it. Fear and insecurity can lead us to do hurtful things to ourselves and others. I hope that I am always strong enough to put Smiwi's needs in the forefront of my mind (not in front of, but along side of mine). Everyone deserves some minimal amount of human kindness and, sadly, often it is the ones we have shared the most intimacy and bonding with that we hurt the most thoughtlessly or weakly.

DHShogun
08-13-2003, 04:56 PM
Yuck, I had to go to the DMV, sorry, I mean the eighth circle of hell, today. Long day.

Anyway, I understand about being wary of people online, but I didn't do anything to betray anyones trust. So innocent until proven guilty I guess is what I'm saying.

But its ok, and as far as some details being fishy, just ask me about them. I have absolutely no problem telling you guys everything. Since I need help all the time, my life is like an open book, so I'm used to it. Ask and ye shall receive.

Anyway, now I'm going out to dinner with a friend, I'll be back later, seeya soon guys.

Moonshadow
08-14-2003, 04:31 PM
Foxyeyes --Good luck ... there are some really nice women here hopefully someone will become more then friends with you


Hmm. That sounds very similar to what Angel's Aid said in her post. Oh, and has anyone ever seen Foxy and Angel on here at the same time? I think we found the imposter! ;)

Adri
08-14-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Moonshadow
Foxyeyes --


Hmm. That sounds very similar to what Angel's Aid said in her post. Oh, and has anyone ever seen Foxy and Angel on here at the same time? I think we found the imposter! ;)

uh?
:confused: :confused:
its this supposed to be funny?:confused:

Moonshadow
08-14-2003, 11:24 PM
its this supposed to be funny?

No. :rolleyes:

foxyeyes
08-14-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Moonshadow
Foxyeyes --


Hmm. That sounds very similar to what Angel's Aid said in her post. Oh, and has anyone ever seen Foxy and Angel on here at the same time? I think we found the imposter! ;)

Give me a Break Moon ...go eat some catnip would you. Your "catiness" is appaulling :rolleyes:

Adri ..she only thinks she's being funny....quite the farce isn't it? ;)


P.S You were looking for a response so there it is Moon..good on you!





~*foxyeyes*~

Adri
08-14-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by foxyeyes
[SIZE=3][COLOR=blue] :

Adri ..she only [b]thinks she's being funny....quite the farce isn't it? ;)]

Well... if thats the case i dont particularly find it funny at all.
thats why i asked before:confused:

Moonshadow
08-14-2003, 11:43 PM
go eat some catnip would you. Your "catiness" is appaulling

meow :D

DHShogun
08-15-2003, 12:06 AM
I thought it was funny. I may be a bit biased, though:p

Tall Guy
08-15-2003, 12:17 AM
*meow meow* *hiss hiss*

Looks like the cathair is flying around. Hey moon, can I get a hit of that catnip and enjoy the show?

Steve

Adri
08-15-2003, 12:26 AM
Are you guys making fun of someone that had doubts that a certain person really existed and had the courage to post it for all of us to see and then had the balls to apologize to the person she thought she offended?
I dont get it really, whats the point of this moon?:confused:
and whats the point of you guys saying its funny:confused:
when moon directly said it wasnt suppose to be funny?

Tall Guy
08-15-2003, 12:30 AM
I'm sorry.

I just get a little giddy when i'm flyin' high on catnip. Thanks for the nip, Moon dawling

DHShogun
08-15-2003, 12:32 AM
I hate pants.

Tall Guy
08-15-2003, 12:38 AM
I guess pants would stop the person in that chair in your picture from being completely blowjob accessable.

Steve

Adri
08-15-2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Tall Guy
I guess pants would stop the person in that chair in your picture from being completely blowjob accessable.

Steve

OMG steve...i just realized that picture on the wheelchair:eek:
i thought that SH put that avatar on coz he is in one (chair)
Now ....that is funny:p

DHShogun
08-15-2003, 02:04 AM
The sign speaks the truth:cool:


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