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SLICE OF ADVICE: Who Want To Lose Weight?

TheChosen1
08-18-2003, 06:39 PM
I recently read the thread about the Adkin's Diet and I posted a brief reply. It was about to become a lengthy one but I decided to use it for another thread, in hope that it can be helpful to all of whom would like to lose weight. Over the years of training, I've learned alot about dieting, training, and above all, nutritional supplementations. Personally, I've lost hundreds of pounds of weight both naturally and with the use of drugs (both doctor prescribed and self prescribed). Yet, this is something that I've learned and often explained to people whom I've trained or assisted in the gym:

Several years ago, I was watching wrestling and I remember a sport commentator was interviewing a wrestler (who was never a favorite of mine) named Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat. At the end of the interview, the commentator asked Steamboat to end the interview with some advice and Steamboat said, "FEED THE MUSCLE, NOT THE FAT."

So on that note, I extend the advice with this equation:
Protein feeds muscle. Carbs feed energy. However, if you don't use up the energy, it becomes stored energy, which in short is called FAT. So in order to lose that "stored energy", you must use it.

Believe it or not, losing weight is more common sense than diet or exercise. That's not to say that diet and exercise is not needed. I'll explain later. We always see NEW products or machines coming out that promise to help you lose weight. But here's where the common sense comes in. How many people do you know who has lost weight from using their AB MASTER? Hmmmmm!!! How many people do you know who has lost weight and kept it off from using DIET ONE, DIET FAST, or SLIM FAST? I see. Enough said.
I lost 60 pounds in a little over 4 months back in 1996 when I was concentrating on bodybuilding training. Alot of my coworkers, especially the overweight ones, praised me for my efforts and accomplishments. While I accomplished my goal with plenty of diet and exercise, I also used nutritional supplements. But a coworker of mine who was only mildly overweight often asked me, "Do you have something to help you burn bodyfat?" I would reply, "Sure, this right here. Works great." I would show her what I was using and she would ask, "How does it work?" I reply, "Easy, I like to take it before my workouts and it kicks the fats' asset." Then she asked the dumbest question of the century......."You have to exercise to use this?"

#1] COMMON SENSE........If you sat on your butt and gained weight, there is no way in hell for you to sit on your butt to lose weight. What goes up must come down. Not go up more.

So it's easy. In order to lose the weight, you'll have to use more calories and consumer less calories. I know, easier said than done, right? Guess again. Think about this. Let's say you're hungry. How much food does it take for you to be content? Not full or bloated until you have to unbutton your pants. Just content. That's the whole secret to losing weight. Yours truly went through that for years. I would go to your typical fast food restaurant and order everything in extra large just to make sure I have enough food to be full for hours. In a half hour, I'm removing my clothes and slumping down on my sofa or in my bed because I'm too full to move. So, as I once told a coworker of mine, there's a difference between being hungry enough to eat a horse and greedy enough to go to a horse race track to hunt for dinner.

#2] COMMON SENSE: Eat as much as you need, not as much as you can.

Lastly, I'm not saying that you can't eat the things that you like to eat. Just minimize them. You'll be surprised how easy you can change your lifestyle once you've put your mind to it. I used to go to Baskin & Robbins every week for their 2 for $6 special and chow down on both quarts during my 2 days off from work. But I had a taste for ice cream about a month ago and, low and behold, those 2 quarts have been in my freezer eversince......LOL. I think I ate about 3 spoons from one then saved it.

To sum this up, it is more of a lifestyle than anything. Once you find a diet that works for you and an exercise that works for you, STICK WITH IT.

For a real good plan, check out www.bodyforlife.com. It's not my site but it's a plan that I've followed for a while now. No secrets to it, just plain COMMON SENSE.

And in case you're wondering, ......I managed to keep the weight off for about 2 years. But that was because after losing the weight, majority of which was bodyfat, I anxiously began using steroids to concentrate more on powerlifting rather than bodybuilding. To this day, I still concentrate on my natural strength and mass gains than weight loss (other than bodyfat loss). Basically, I care more about keeping my 20 inch arms than getting a 34 inch waist......LOL.

Lorena
08-18-2003, 07:42 PM
It all does make sense.......but for me I find that when !workout, I get more hungry is this all in the mind or is it because I worked out?

TheChosen1
08-18-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Lorena
It all does make sense.......but for me I find that when !workout, I get more hungry is this all in the mind or is it because I worked out?

I could say that it's all in the mind but I don't think it is. Personally, I find that I have NO hunger after working out, even though I prefer to workout on an empty stomach. But to be quite honest, it's not just you or in your mind. Everyone tends to be different with that matter.

However, though you feel hungry after your workouts, chances are you should be full (or should I say content) faster than normal if you should eat after a workout.

Just don't do what most workout wannabes do. I've seen an old friend of mine, who was obese at the time, ride a Life Cycle for an hour, work her jaw muscles for another hour (talking while others are trying to workout), then leave the gym for a nearby 7-11 store to get 3 hot dogs, potatoe chips, and a Big Gulp. OH YEAH, great workout.

Lorena
08-18-2003, 09:47 PM
I've seen some pretty over weight women at the gym that don't seem to make any changes and it probably is due to the fact that they really aren't serious about making changes their just content in maintaining their weight. And yet I see those who really progress, I've learned to become more agressive in seeking ways that you can really make changes,and the ones who show that change well..... their the ones I tend to believe. As for myself I have never really been over weight can stand to maybe lose 5 lbs or so but even if the scale doesn't change it's the inches that really count and don't forget muscle weighs more then fat. And no I rarely chow down on hot dogs although they sure are tasty, I've learned to live without them. And I've had to let go of the french fries, I may have alittle here and there to fancy my taste buds lol, it's those carbs that I hate to let go of, but I know that it is necessary to cut back, and with all the hard work of working out well I must have a cheat day to feel like I'm not missing out altogether. Isn't that power lifting a way that you can eat anything you want? I've been told this by two guys who say that they powerlift. Hmmmmmmm?

Tru
08-18-2003, 10:09 PM
Body for Life is the BEST! I have studied nutrition and weight training in college and at one time was really into training. I was considering becoming a personal trainer. I let that fall by the wayside about 6 years ago but I still keep informed and although I do not apply my knowledge like I should (personal issues at the moment) I agree with all you said! (not that my endorsement is anything special!)

Bill Phillips makes such good sound sense in most of what he says (some of his supplement stuff is questionable imho but he does sell the stuff and I am not a competition bodybuilder) and he does not have you do any wacky stuff. I lost 15 lbs following the Body for Life plan and have only gained back 10. :P I should never have gained it back cause I should eat that way for LIFE. His exercise methodology is sound too. Oh, well, that is my .02 worth! Thanks for all the info Chosen!!

TheChosen1
08-20-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Lorena
Isn't that power lifting a way that you can eat anything you want? I've been told this by two guys who say that they powerlift. Hmmmmmmm?

Believe me, Lorena, those 2 guys don't know powerlifting. Those are probably the type of guys who would see a bodybuilder or powerlifter and ask the typical "What do you bench" question because that's the only training that they're familiar with. Don't I wish I can eat anything and not worry about gaining fat instead of muscle. Quite frankly, I once believed that too.

Then I did some research and learned that powerlifters don't neccessarily eat what they want, they're just required to eat more. In other words, I can probably enjoy a Big Mac, large fries, large Coke, hot fudge sundae, and a hot apple pie. But in the long run, my lifts (training) will suffer. The fact is that if you eat like crap, you will feel and train like crap. Most powerlifters eat more protein to feed the muscle. Dr. Anthony Ricciuto explains this very well in the magazine, "POWERLIFTING USA". He writes a monthly article called, "Nutrition Mistakes Guaranteed To Ruin Your Powerlifting Success". I read one of his articles one day and I was shocked because he generally listed alot of mistakes that I was actually making and didn't know it.

Because you hardly ever see a powerlifter with a 34 inch waist (although they are some), many assume that they can chow down a cheesecake and still train. The difference between a bodybuilder and a powerlifter is that the bodybuilder concentrates mostly on perfecting the appearance of their body by decreasing as much of their bodyfat as possible. This art takes a great deal of self discipline of the individual. A powerlifter concentrates mostly on building his/her strength and, in some case, mass. Although a bodybuilder may chose to build his/her mass and strength as well, their definition is far more important. Otherwise, they'll appear smooth or "bloated".

A perfect example of the two can be seen on ESPN. ESPN airs "Strongman Competition". These are your worldwide popular powerlifters testing their massive strengths by doing tasks (known as meets) that you would never dream of, such as pulling an 18 wheeler about 10-15 feet or military pressing a huge log as many times as they are able. And on the bodybuilding note, ESPN also aires the Mr. Olympia contests and other bodybuilding contests. Bodybuilders compete by performing several poses to allow each individual muscle to be seen better.

Lorena, I can understand those 2 guys believing that. It's all myths. Many also believe that if a bodybuilder/powerlifter uses steroids, then they can eat anything because the steroids will build their muscles for them.....LOL

TRU: You're very welcome. I'm glad that I can help.

MerAlove23
08-21-2003, 08:20 AM
Well I've been on the atkins diet for 2 months and lost 30 lbs.. I love it!!! I suggest you read the book first if you want to do it.... because there is a right and a wrong way to do it!!! I love it!!

TheChosen1
08-21-2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by MerAlove23
Well I've been on the atkins diet for 2 months and lost 30 lbs.. I love it!!! I suggest you read the book first if you want to do it.... because there is a right and a wrong way to do it!!! I love it!!

I don't doubt you or disagree with you, MerAlove. There's a popular DJ that I listen to daily and he's lost 30 pounds on the Atkins Diet as well.

As I stated earlier, the keyword is "lifestyle" rather than diet. Losing weight is quite easy but keeping it off is the toughest job. And in order to keep it off, one has to stick to the lifestyle that they've incorporated.

My brother was on the Atkins Diet and managed to lose alot of weight. He bragged about it (the diet) constantly and figured that it would work great for me since I am the only one in the family that exercise regularly. The only thing is that I've watch him eat and that guy can put down nearly (if not) a whole large pizza. His trick, according to the Atkins Diet, is not to eat the crust. But me personally, I get full (or rather content) with just one slice of pizza with the crust.

Quite frankly, MerAlove, I applaude and commend you for your weightloss and definately keep up the good work. Like I stated in an earlier post, if a diet works for you, stick with it.

Lorena
08-22-2003, 05:02 PM
Choosen can you be my trainer? LOL I know thats not possible but you sure can tell that you do your homework and put it into action! What a great guy you are!:)

TheChosen1
08-22-2003, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Lorena
Choosen can you be my trainer? LOL I know thats not possible but you sure can tell that you do your homework and put it into action! What a great guy you are!:)

I would love to come to Colorado. I always wanted to meet the kids of "South Park"....LOL

Thanks Lorena for the compliment. Just years of experience. I guess I'm the E.F. Hutton of fitness because once, I was talking to a woman whom I'd met for the 1st time and we discussed training and nutrition. As I spoke, she just looked at me as if in a trance. When I mentioned her look to her, she just told me "It's just that you know so much of what you're talking about and you make it sound interesting." hahaha

But yet, I'm far from the epitome of fitness. If you were to see me, you would probably automatically think that I've never stepped foot in the gym. While others could see that from the size of my arms, shoulders, or chest that I must live in one. But as I stated in an earlier post, I worry less about getting a 34 inch waist (been there already and hated it) and more about keeping 20 inch arms.

While I may not be able to be there in person to train you (and see you in your leotards....:p ), please feel free to PM or email me about anything that you may need help with. I know of some websites that have great workout routines on them, as well as some of my own. Just make sure that you tell me your goals and intentions. I would hate to give you a hardcore training routine if you're only looking to lose weight and get trimmed....LOL

Lorena
08-25-2003, 08:25 PM
If I have any concerns or questions, I'll feel free to ask you questions, being that you gave me permission........Thankyou! :)

TheChosen1
01-14-2004, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Lorena
If I have any concerns or questions, I'll feel free to ask you questions, being that you gave me permission........Thankyou! :)

No problem.........Just PM or email me as soon as you'd like.

solitude
01-18-2004, 02:33 PM
Thankyou Chosen.. but i wanna GAIN weight!
What to do?

Joe
01-18-2004, 07:37 PM
Solitude, you want to increase your calories and start lifting weights. :)

TheChosen1
01-19-2004, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Joe
Solitude, you want to increase your calories and start lifting weights. :)

Solitude, in addition to Joe's advice, increase your protein intake. You don't want to increase your carbs too much for it'll make you gain the wrong weight.......FAT.

In addition, start using a multi-vitamin and amino acid supplements, as well. Good Luck and feel free to PM me if you'd like.

solitude
01-19-2004, 02:22 AM
Thanks guys, my problem is i just cant eat.. :(

Lifting weight is a good idea..

John-311
01-19-2004, 03:20 PM
I lost around 60 lbs or so with weight training and a lower carb, high protein diet (it actually became a challenge to get ENOUGH calories from protein to keep up the muscle). The combination of everything made such a quick impact - after a few weeks I was like "holy crap! are those my arms"?? (working all summer for a landscaping company part time also helped I think.)
But I wanted to say one of the best things I did was learn about nutrition and metabolism and even a little bit about body chemistry, learn just what does what in your body when you eat it. Once armed with that knowledge you learn how to feed the muscle, not the fat like Chosen said.
I had to lay off the lifting due to an injury and felt myself starting to mush up a little but for a couple of weeks or so now I have been starting the regimen again and I already notice a difference.

One thing I still havent found a straight answer to is what happens to fat when it enters your body - books vary on answers to this.

TheChosen1
01-19-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by John-311
One thing I still havent found a straight answer to is what happens to fat when it enters your body - books vary on answers to this.

Fat (also known as stored energy) stays in your body until it is used as energy.

I like your concept and all of which you've learned John. The same had happened ot me back in 1995-96. I lost 60 pounds simply by watching what I ate. I eliminated ALL fast foods (cop food) from my daily diet, incorporated more cardiovascular exercises into my workout, and also watched what time I ate. Even to this day, my day revolves my training. Whenever I plan to train, I make sure I've cooked and have eaten hours before going to the gym, since it's often after 7 PM by the time I get back from the gym.

Chatterbox
02-05-2004, 02:36 PM
Hey Choosen 1: You're.....whatever they call it.... I call it a picture... is really sexy!!!

What is this off the subject???????????

TheChosen1
02-05-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Chatterbox
Hey Choosen 1: You're.....whatever they call it.... I call it a picture... is really sexy!!!

What is this off the subject???????????

Are you referring to the avatar (o.k.a. AV)?:confused:
Thanks for the compliment, Chatterbox.


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