Lorena 10-04-2003, 05:12 PM Last nite......my oldest son found out that a friend of his was found buried in a man's back yard who had been missing. Her name was Angel....she was a sweet girl who grew up with a broken family.......in order to survive she turned to prostition...and just recently discovered murdered by this man......who had confessed that there were other bodies buried in his back yard......She died a terrible death......and I can't help to think....that if only she choose another path, she may be alive today.......Oh sweet Angel I don't care the life that you lead......all I see is alittle girl who only needed to be loved and accepted........may justice come to you.......and may you rest in peace.....for the reality is that evil does exist!.......I hope when we come across another Angel or the ym that was a friend to my son who took his own life because he couldn't cope with what life brought to him.......I hope that we can reach out to that hurting soul and show her and him the way. Oh Lord give strength to their families.:mad:
swanqueen 10-04-2003, 05:24 PM So many times we turn our back or judge instead of love. The right person at the right time can turn a life around.
I am sometimes very confused, how can the person that did this be of the same species that I am? It makes me want to leave this earth. Some of you on this board have expressed a fear of death. I see death as a sweet relief from this maddness. I am not in a hurry to go, don't get me wrong. There are many people and things I love here, but ... sometimes don't you get sick of how others behave?
You seem very upset. I'm sorry. I get upset a lot when I hear things like this.
Polly 10-04-2003, 06:05 PM Oh Lorena, I'm so sorry to hear this. That poor girl! My heart aches hearing this. No one deserves to die like that (except maybe pediphiles and murderers). It goes back to people having children, but not wanting to be PARENTS! Just because they turn 18 doesn't mean they're adults. When they're at their worst, in the teen years, is when they need us the most. Like President Bush says, "No child left behind." The only way our society can prevent things like this from happening, is to give kids like Angel an alternative to the streets, and a feasible place to get an education. I wish we had more group homes for kids whose parents were drug addicts or abusive and dysfunctional. The kids could be removed from their parents and place in a safe group home where they could acquire the skills they needed to be successful.
foxyeyes 10-04-2003, 06:41 PM I feel much sadness reading your post Lorena :(
Life isn't fair sometimes and good people are taken from us for no apparent reason...
It is quite sad that there are people in this world that have no conscious and commit horrible crimes against others...
or people driven to take their lives because they feel that they are inadequate in some way due to societal pressures...
My heart aches everytime I hear about these stories....:(
I send my sympathies to your son,and those close to him, as well as the families of those that have passed ....I pray for everyone involved to be strong and know that your/their loved ones are now in the loving hands of God...
May be peace be with you all
~*foxyeyes*~
kyrianne 10-04-2003, 06:43 PM Lorena...I'm so so sorry..~hugggz~ to you and your son. Polly's so right when she says people don't want to be parents. I work in a middle school. I joke and say I affectionately call it hormone hell. I see these kids...good kids with really shitty homelifes and old kids still stuck in the 70's and 80's for parents or good parents with little education themselves. Some of these kids really don't stand a chance. And ya know, sometimes even the kids from nice, steady families end up with problems too... mostly due to peer pressure I believe. Makes me want to just reach out and grab a few of those kids..like Angel..and give them a giant hug and tell them they are good..they are valuable..and they are loved. And ya know, because of my interactions in that age group I started schooling. I've decided I want to be a guidance counselour. If I can make a difference in one or two kids lives.. maybe if we all could just reach out and touch one kid...who knows??
One last thing, Lorena..years ago on..hmm..I think it was the Incredible Hulk..there was a line a little boy on an episode said.. it might not be helpful but I found it very touching..and very true..it goes something like...No one's every really gone as long as they are remembered in our hearts....and I'm quite sure Angle is remembered in many hearts..~huggggles again~
Lorena 10-04-2003, 10:20 PM YES YES you can make a differance.....in that field you can reach out........you have my blessings and deepest wishes, for good to come to you.......for setting out to follow the conviction of your heart......:) Thankyou swanqueen, Polly and foxyeyes.....poor baby, my heart is broken for her and many others who suffered an unnecessary death....in the end all will be accountable for their own doings, that's all I have to say. Whatever happened to this man and many other psychos out there, in their life to cause them to do such a thing......only God knows and they will have to face Him in the end.......who knows they may have been through a living hell to make them become what they are today. But we has a people need to keep our eyes opened, for we never know, if anyone should need us......we can never say never......it can come knocking at our door. But I say don't live in fear......because then the evil did succeed.
whisper 10-04-2003, 11:03 PM Lorena, I'm so sorry. It makes me so sad to hear about someone being hurt by another person. I read a book not too long ago called Anyone You Want Me To Be about a man who was luring women over the internet and then murdering them. I read it and wanted to talk to my children about being cautious and about things to watch out for, but I ended up getting really sad learning about what that man did. I always wonder how anyone can have so much hurt/anger/evil inside that they can hurt or kill another person and not feel empathy or feel the other person's pain/suffering. I just cannot relate to it. I will pray for your son and his friend's family. When did this happen?
Lorena 10-04-2003, 11:12 PM and yes we do have to make our children aware.....we need to let them know what to look for....and what they shouldn't do......I watch my children my small ones very carefully....they are my responsibility.....unfortunatily my oldest son who has been out there in the world way to young has seen to many things and has learned about life the sad way.....but many parents out there are so into their life that their children are forgotten. Poor Angel....she was a sweet girl you know? (sigh):mad:
whisper 10-04-2003, 11:19 PM Lorena, I usually keep up with the news, but I haven't read any news at all for at least a week. I am even more sad knowing that this was recent; the poor family. I'll be praying.
Lorena 10-05-2003, 07:25 PM hello all,
this is lorena's son paul. she was just showing me this post and i wanted to take this time to thank all for there empathy on this matter. the reason i have the icon with the sunglasses is because that is how i have felt for awhile now, just wanting to hide behind it all and to be left alone.
i had 2 friends committ suicide last year by gun, grandfather passed away in august of this year, and now a dear friend of mine who had been missing for over a year, she has apparently been buried in a backyard since last Oct. (2002), strangled and then put away. she is the 1st out of 5 to be identified, the murderer hated hispanics so he seeked out hispanic females, sleep with them.............and then you know the rest.
it breaks my heart that life can be so sad, but then i come over to my mom's house and am suddenly overjoyed and happily playing with my younger brother and sister in the backyard. just when life brings me down, good people like you all and very few close friends of mine know how to say only 1 word, and somehow you lift your chin up, know life goes on, keep people you have lost forever in your heart, and thank the lord that you are a survivor and may be around in someone else's time of need in any of the above or other situations. thanks again.
sincerely,
paolo
yellowrose 10-06-2003, 07:25 PM I just don't know what to say Lorena and Paolo. I am so sorry that you have to see the darker side of life at such a young age.
I am convinced that a Higher Power knows her name and she is in a place of peace and joy that she never knew before.
Barbara
whisper 10-06-2003, 08:40 PM Paolo, I am so sorry for all the losses that you have had recently. You have really been through a lot lately. I will keep you and your family in my prayers. Sometimes the darkest moments come just before the light starts to shine brightly again. I hope that things will start to brighten up for you soon - you have had more than your fair share of tragedies lately. You are fortunate that you have such a wonderful mother to help shoulder your burdens. Hang in there; things have to get better soon!
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