I need your opinions girls!

Hi,

I am a 37 years single guy. But I look a lot younger than my age. I look like a man in his early twenties. It may be because I have a healthy lifestyle.

I am dating a 17-year-old girl recently. We like each other very much. I never tell her about my age. I think she will never expect dating a man who is two decades older than her. But she will know the truth eventually.....

I wonder if she will leave me when she find out the truth. Should I tell her now?

Does women really care about your boyfriend's age?

I know many women marry a man who is significantly older. These guy usually have tons of money. And I am not a rich guy.

I really need some girls' opinion.

Thanks


IBB

Okay, first off I have to ask your location. Contrary to what most people think, 18 is not always the legal age of consent, but in many places it is.

IF you live in a state where she is not of legal age, then I can't give you any advice except to break off the relationship until she is 18.

However, if you are in one of the (many) states where she is of legal age, you definitely need to tell her the truth and let her make her own decisions. It doesn't matter whether she will break up with you or not. You have no control over that. The only thing that matters here is that she deserves to know the entire truth so she can make whatever decision she feels is right.

As to whether women like older men or not, it depends on who you ask. Some do, some don't, some just like men period. :D The only opinion you need is hers.

Well depends on the woman... some women care some don't.. Obvviously we don't I am married to a man who is 17 years older than me and I love him with alll my heart... but
your problem is she is 17 YEARS OLD... you do need to wait for legal age and then take it from there hon!!!

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
if she's like 25, then she probably expects her boyfriend to be rich, and tons of money...
Jonny, speak for yourself. When you become a gold-digging 25-year-old woman then you can tell people what you prefer. Personally, I would rather be with a man of average income (especially if he was older) in part because of sentiments like that.
...down the road she will leave you once she turns in her 20s and realizes how much power she has irregardless of how much she likes you now...
I'm sorry that you feel women are that fickle. You must have already run into some bad ones. Any woman (or any man) can leave a relationship at any time, and for many reasons. To suggest that every woman would go on a power trip and run off with the pool boy or something as soon as she turns twenty is just silly.
...also, if you think that because you are 37, it is tougher for you to find a young women than it is for a younger guy, Boy, you couldn't be farther from the truth. Our age is irrevelent, she'll treat the 20 year old guy just as same as the 40 year old guy just as same the 50 year old as the 60 year old in her eyes. Thats right, my friend, a 60 yeard old is just as good as a 20 year old in her eyes and your only 37 ! They don't care about your age, trust me !!

I'm not even sure what to say here...I think any woman who didn't have ANY concerns about being with an OM is either naive or impractical. If you love someone enough you can deal with those concerns, but they do exist, regardless.

No hard feelings, Jonny, but generalizations like those are tough to swallow.

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
Also, If i m not correct, the legal age for sex is 16 in most states ? when she is 17, you have to be very careful about the legality issues here. First of all, if its her first time , you have to you be a judge of her character if she is going to bite you down the road . . .if you supply her with alcohol and she was under the influence. There have been cases like this before. If I were you I would just wait till she was 18 to be safe and give her a good birthday present !
About telling her, sounds like you plan to keep her for the long-term, then you definetly need to tell her, but trust me dude she is not going to give a **** !

Correction Jonny_Loves_You: In most states, while the age of consent may be 16 or 17, the other party would have to be no older than 18. Usually, the age of consent law has a catch to it.

IPP: Personally, I don't doubt that you look younger than your age. But unless your body has somehow continued producing testosterones, I can't see your 17 year old friend not knowing that you're beyond your teen years. Granted, when I was working at the department store where I met Ms. A, I often worked with alot of teen girls. And I remember a 17 year old female coworker once told me that I looked about 27 years old when, in fact, I was 37 at the time.

However, I agree with the majority. Wait until she's 18, dude. It's better to be safer than sorry.

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
pink_panther,
lol, I never mentioned gold-diggers , . . let me correct myself when she gets older it becomes more important for her to find someone who can support himself and herself . . so make enough to be able to support her, i edited it for you pink.

LOL

You're right, Jonny.
At 17, a girl's impressed that you have a car. By the time she's about 21, she only wants to know what kind it is.

The best thing to do, in order to avoid any of those concerns, would be to not get a 17 year old girl drunk. That is called contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Also, I would say that's it's a *very* bad idea to have sex with someone for the first time while they are under the influence of any drug. If the relationship has already become sexual then why exactly would there be a problem? Since the original poster didn't bring this up I'm wondering why it is such a concern for you?

Here's a link that might be helpful. Do make sure you check the laws in your state, however, because as Chosen said, there are specific rules that may be applicable. In fact, there are so many specific laws on the books that in some states there is a different age for males and females. In Texas if you were 18 and she was 17 having sex with her would be a misdemeanor offense. It's silly sometimes, but it's still the law. This site only lists one age, so you really do need to check with your own state.Age of Consent (http://ageofconsent.com/)

The whole point of the age of consent is that under that age people are considered minors, and thus are not legally allowed to consent to any sexual activity. A minor's consent means absolutely nothing. In the eyes of the law they are incompetent to make that decision.

BTW, Jonny, your edited version still implies that women my age want a man to take care of them, rather than to have an equal partnership. My original complaint still stands. As far as cars go, Chosen :rolleyes: I do like cars. I go to car shows for fun. If I am admiring a car it is because I like the car, not the person driving it. I mean, unless they've personally done a frame-off restoration of some great classic, the car says virtually nothing about its owner. Any a$$hole with a few extra bucks can buy a fancy car. I would think it would be primarily younger girls who wouldn't realize that. If I see an older guy driving a nice car I make every effort possible to not look at the car, even if it's a really nice one. I just hate the smug grins these jerks get when they think I'm impressed with them because of their car. Please! And I really don't think I'm an anomally on this one. Sure there are women my age who want a man (of any age) to take care of them, just like there are older men who just want a YW for sex. But isn't the whole point of this website that those stereotypes don't always hold true?

Okay, sorry. My rant is officially over. :)

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
Yea, I stand to be correct, it is infact 18 . Does any body with a legal background know how this rule works , for ibb and other guys here dating women younger than 18 .. Even if she does it consensually willingly, does the rule automatically still apply ?

Well, I spent 11 years in law enforcement and I posted my reply above.

Even if she consents to the sex (as most sexually active 13-16 year old girls do), it is still considered statuatory rape. As the law sees it, if you are the adult in the matter, you should know better. It wouldn't matter if she's dressed like a cheerleader, approach you, and throws her ankle on your shoulder for you to see what she's wearing or not wearing under her skirt, YOU ARE STILL THE ADULT and they see it as an adult taking advantage of her. Besides if she consents to the sex, how are going to prove that in court? It's your word against hers. Afterall, Amy Fisher was a call girl since she was 16 but that didn't help Joey Butt(brain) when he had sex with her on numerouse occassions, did it?

Sorry guys.

We just hang out for a few weeks. No sex was involved.

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
know many women marry a man who is significantly older. These guy usually have tons of money. And I am not a rich guy."



Excuse me??? ARe you here on this side to Piss us off??? ARe you trying to say that We are gold diggers and need nothing else but?????

Well I hate to break it to you buddy.. I am married to a OLDER MAN and I lOVE HIM FOR HIS SOUL AND I LOVE HIM FOR HIS HEART AND I LOVE HIM FOR BEING HIM... not for his money... He makes just about the same as me.... so I think you need to stay in your neck of the woods and out of here..... I find this statement EXTREMELY offensive and Untrue,, and definatly IMMATURE!! I am older than you!!! I am so trying to make sense of this....

So are you telling me that Older women are looking for younger men because they are trying to lose sight of getting old? or to have a play toy? or is it because it's NOT ABOUT AGE AND IT'S ABOUT LOVE????

GAWD..
if the other
side of the board accepts these types of statements from you I suggest you stay there....

Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
MerALove23,

I did not say that. You quoted ibb. If you have any problems with that statement , please direct them to ibb, not at me.

Secondly, women here are very sensitive about being called golddiggers. I have not said that term and I have already been accused of saying it twice.

I posted here to give encouragement to ibb to be upfront and honest with his girlfriend about his age.

Please do not snap to judgements.



Good Luck and Good Bye,

Jonny


Jonny you are a Coward!!! You deleted both posts...

Here is another Reason why we date OLDER MATURE MEN!!!


jONNY where did the quote come from that Pink did or the one chosen did?? LOL we must of all be crazy HUH??? LOL

Yes, there are a couple of posts missing here.

Johnny_loves_you, I also saw those posts. I also thought they were highly offensive. I especially remember the "encouraging" part where you tell the guy to watch out because a younger woman will want to leave her older man in a few years when things change....

I see a weasel here...first you edited, then when it was still offensive, you pulled your posts.

Then you acuse Mera of what--lying? Trying to make YOU look bad?

Please...you need no help in that department, you made YOURSELF look bad.

Thanks Lara!!!!!! I am not a liar!! And Never Was....

Maria and Joannalee he is part of your side isn't he? is he always this rude?

Woah, guys, slow down there. Jonny is usually a pretty nice guy, and although he's got some kookie ideas about what women want (a lot of men do)I don't think he's trying to be a jerk. The quote Mer had in the post above actually belongs to ibb, not Jonny. It's in his first post. Plus, all ibb was saying is that he happens to know of some OM/YW couples where the OM happens to have a bit of money. He didn't say that all YW are gold diggers or make any kind of judgement at all.

Jonny, I realize you didn't specifically use the term gold digger, but what you were talking about, as in women being primarily interested in a man because of his level of income, to me, is one definition of that phrase. The only reasons I can think of that you would make those kinds of statements is either you have had some bad experiences with women like that, (they certainly do exist) or you just believe what you're told and have been listening to the wrong people. Realize that when you make a statement about ALL women of a certain age, you are getting personal. It doesn't make it any better to tell me that I must be one of the few exceptions, just the same as it doesn't make racism any better just because someone admits they like Michael Jordan.


BTW, Jonny, I cleared out my inbox.

Pink... then How come I hit quote and his name came up... I didn't make a mistake here... you even read his post that way to.....I didn't make that up...... If it was not him then how come Jonny Deleted BOTH his posts??

Totally not understanding here at all...

Originally posted by ibb
Hi,

I am a 37 years single guy. But I look a lot younger than my age. I look like a man in his early twenties. It may be because I have a healthy lifestyle.

I am dating a 17-year-old girl recently. We like each other very much. I never tell her about my age. I think she will never expect dating a man who is two decades older than her. But she will know the truth eventually.....

I wonder if she will leave me when she find out the truth. Should I tell her now?

Does women really care about your boyfriend's age?

I know many women marry a man who is significantly older. These guy usually have tons of money. And I am not a rich guy.

I really need some girls' opinion.

Thanks


IBB

I think Jonny just quoted part of the original post in his reply.

Hmmmmm, I may not be a forensic specialist.
But it appears to me that Jonny boy admitted to having
sex with a minor and then tried to erase the evidence.

But we recorded it beforehand.
OKAY BUDDY, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say could and will be beaten out of you when needed. :mad: Do you understand what I've just said? LOL

Well he didn't quote it either... he had it in regular text.... so but still his post was still sketchy.......

Why did he delete both his posts then?

He apparently just copied and pasted it instead of formatting it as a quote. Does it really matter? They weren't his words to begin with either way.

He erased those posts because he was getting yelled at and he thought it would be better just to delete them rather than continue to cause a problem.

Could we either let this thread get back on track or let it die? He deleted his posts. If you don't like what he says you can always put him on 'ignore.'

One more thing Pink... Johnny is a good guy, just my .02

Oh, I know that. (except he accused me of going to UT. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/sauer/angry-smiley-037.gif ) I already said that though, so I didn't want to repeat myself.

no I was agreeing with you. :D

Just didn't want to post when you said lets get the thread back on track, that's why I said one more thing...

I was agreeing with you.

and now I've posted again

Well, I was agreeing with you as well. :D

(darn it, now I've posted again too!)

http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/lachen/laughing-smiley-018.gif

Well sometimes when your on a computer your typing means everything... so How you write it is how we see it..... I will let it go... I am sure hes an ok person but you need to be careful how you word things...

Originally posted by swanqueen
One more thing Pink... Johnny is a good guy, just my .02

Sorry Swanqueen

Unless you can present to us his angel wings, that's only an opinion. LOL

"just my .02" is the same as saying "just my opinion"

And he is a good guy. That's just MY opinion. :)

um, yeah, i would delete my posts too if my posts were reacted to in a way that i READ as hostile.

when your on a computer your typing means everything... so How you write it is how we see it

yes, exactly. like all caps and exclamation points "sounds like" yelling. i don't mind if anyone wants to attack me for saying this, but the whole jumping on the moral bandwagon trend of the last few weeks on this board hurts my rosy vision of humanity. ouch.