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What Attracts Me Most In A Man

Sage
11-01-2003, 10:57 AM
Okay, I decided to start a thread for us to list what qualities we find most attractive in men.

I think it will be interesting to list the things, big and small that we like physically and emotionally.

I also think it might be interesting for the men here at Ageless to read these too.
I bet what men "think" we find most attractive in their sex, many times is not.

Could be a learning experience for them.

swanqueen
11-01-2003, 12:25 PM
So are you talking mostly physical or emotional?

I will answer both.

Physical:
I love lips and teeth. Don't know why but if a man has a cute mouth I can't take my eyes off it.

Next to that, hmmm the neck and sholders. I just want to nuzzle my nose there and smell the skin.

Emotional:
Easy going, non critical.

Open communication, ALWAYS.

PinkPanther_04
11-01-2003, 12:26 PM
I do have a weakness for muscular men, but not the kind who spend every waking moment in the gym so their bodyfat will be under 5%. I couldn't put up with that kind of vanity. I just think men should be bigger than women. Not that much taller, necessarily, but I shouldn't be able to beat a man in a wrestling match (unless he lets me win ;) )

Physically, though it's really, really variable, I like curly hair, especially dark hair with blue eyes. That's just a great combination.

Otherwise, I think the most attractive thing is a really funny guy. I've always had a thing for comedians. Intelligence is just as important, because I'm not sure if someone can really be all that funny without some brains, and it's always nice to be able to have an intelligent conversation. :D

Also attractive...someone who is responsible, caring, and supportive of me and my goals in life, and someone who thinks I'm smart and funny and appreciates me.

I'm sure I'll think of other things later, but I wanted to get this thread rolling. :)

One note, though: for me at least, all the internally attractive factors actually make a man more *physically* attractive. It's not so much that being a great guy makes up for being somewhat less attractive than someone else. Those things are part of what makes someone attractive. There are men who other women swear are gorgeous and I just don't see it, because they are lacking in so many other areas that I just can't be attracted to them even on a purely physical level. It's kind of a hinderance in meeting new people, since I'm generally not attracted to anyone I don't know at least *something* about. Does that make sense? I know I'm not the only woman who feels that way, but I don't know how normal it is either.

Genevieve
11-01-2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by PinkPanther_04
I do have a weakness for muscular men, but not the kind who spend every waking moment in the gym so their bodyfat will be under 5%. I couldn't put up with that kind of vanity. I just think men should be bigger than women. Not that much taller, necessarily, but I shouldn't be able to beat a man in a wrestling match (unless he lets me win ;) )

Otherwise, I think the most attractive thing is a really funny guy. I've always had a thing for comedians. Intelligence is just as important, because I'm not sure if someone can really be all that funny without some brains, and it's always nice to be able to have an intelligent conversation. :D

Also attractive...someone who is responsible, caring, and supportive of me and my goals in life, and someone who thinks I'm smart and funny and appreciates me.

I'm sure I'll think of other things later, but I wanted to get this thread rolling. :)

One note, though: for me at least, all the internally attractive factors actually make a man more *physically* attractive. It's not so much that being a great guy makes up for being somewhat less attractive than someone else. Those things are part of what makes someone attractive. There are men who other women swear are gorgeous and I just don't see it, because they are lacking in so many other areas that I just can't be attracted to them even on a purely physical level. It's kind of a hinderance in meeting new people, since I'm generally not attracted to anyone I don't know at least *something* about. Does that make sense? I know I'm not the only woman who feels that way, but I don't know how normal it is either.

Wow, Pink! You took the words right outta my mouth!

Physically though, I don't have too much preference for a certain color hair/eyes.. but something about them has to be attractive to ME. And a guy who has me laughing is a good thing.

onetiger
11-01-2003, 12:54 PM
Physically I like a guy who is athletic in build...could be tall lanky muscles or a big guy, but definitely does work out (though not a gym rat). I tend to like guys who are tall, though I've dated the spectrum. Hair color or lack of hair doesn't matter, though if you're balding...don't do the comb over...just shave it...it's sexy! (mmm...Vin Deisel)

I am attracted to humor, intelligence, outgoing personalities, someone who has good manners, who knows how to treat people well. I like people who have goals and a drive, but don't let their job take over their life. And while I don't necessarily need to have kids in my life, a guy who is good with kids is always attractive to me.

I think I'm a bit on the picky side, but a guy has to be worthy of me (I know, I sound vain, but I truly am not all that much)

Flytrapp
11-01-2003, 01:15 PM
Physically, I like slender guys who are somewhat taller than myself. Areas of attraction:

Eyes that connect with mine in a subtle form of flirtation and energy exchange.

Hands... no explanation, I just find myself looking at them. Cleanliness a definite must.

Collar bone and angle of the shoulders. I agree with SQ there... nice nuzzling. licking spot.

The hollow between the stomach and the hip bones... another kissable, lickable area. Guys that wear loose jeans and have a habit of constantly hiking them up, always manage to end up with me being highly aware of their movements.


Emotionally, I prefer someone somewhat outgoing and who's flirtatious with me. And most of all, I want them to make me feel special and important to them.

There are men who other women swear are gorgeous and I just don't see it, because they are lacking in so many other areas that I just can't be attracted to them even on a purely physical level.

I agree with is this totally. I'm rarely attracted to what one would consider traditionally good looking. I like a little quirkiness. A guy who doesn't meet all my physical preferences can certainly make up for it with the right personality.

Tru
11-01-2003, 02:23 PM
The only physical things I can think of that are important to me would be taller than me and clean body (nails and ears etc) fresh breath and caring about their appearance.


The other more important things are honesty, excellent communication skills and loving to use them with me :) , intelligent, loves to laugh, brave, good work ethic, desire to better themselves (we can always do that) and most important, likes me for me. I find emotional or intellectual aspects far more important that physical.

whiterose
11-01-2003, 02:53 PM
I agree with so many of the above comments about emotional aspects being more important than the physical.

Emotionally, I love a man who is secure with himself. One who feels comfortable with his feelings enough that he can express them. I absolutely love a man who can talk to me. One who keeps channels of communication open about anything at all. I am very attracted to a man with intelligence. He doesn't have to be a genius, but must be able to carry on a conversation.

I ESPECIALLY love someone who is funny. I love to laugh and love men with a sense of humor.

I am very attracted to a man with integrity. And, if they are good with children, that makes them even more attractive to me.

All my life physical attributes have not been that important to me. But, I do find that I am generally attracted to men who have dark, wavy hair, brown eyes, a nice smile and teeth. I do find myself noticing their hands. I like strong, yet sensitive appearing hands (if that makes sense).

I am attracted to men taller than me with a slim to medium body build. Especially like square shoulders and flat abdomen.

Each of my relationships have been different. But, with each one, whether they were handsome or not, there HAD to be chemistry.

And, isn't it a wonderful mystery about that chemistry? No one can even begin to explain how that happens. ;)

EDIT: I thought of something else I wanted to add. Another thing that attracts me to a man is how he treats me, especially when I am voicing an opinion. If he gives me the room to have my own opinions, then to me, that is a sign of respect. Showing me respect, and demonstrating an understanding that I have a brain that I like to use, and not judging me for it, is very important to me.

yellowrose
11-01-2003, 05:05 PM
I am physically drawn to "skinny" guys, medium height, dark hair. But if their personality draws me in, I can be attracted to most other types as well.

I like guys who have a sense of humor that is not at someone else's expense. A guy that doesn't take himself too seriously is sometimes good. If we can talk about a lot of different things and he doesn't hog the conversation or make me have to pull it out of him is fun. Confidence in himself without arrogance is really great. If he tells me I look pretty before we head out for the evening, it lets me know that he noticed all the trouble that I went to and is proud to have me at his side.

I want a neat clean organized guy but not one that is anal about it.

I also like guys with a spiritual side, preferably Christian but I have dated others whose "light" shown through.

Funny, seems like I am not asking for much but it is really hard to find the one that I think I might be compatible with.

Tru
11-01-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by whiterose

EDIT: I thought of something else I wanted to add. Another thing that attracts me to a man is how he treats me, especially when I am voicing an opinion. If he gives me the room to have my own opinions, then to me, that is a sign of respect. Showing me respect, and demonstrating an understanding that I have a brain that I like to use, and not judging me for it, is very important to me.

Exactly! That is just what I meant when I said "likes me for me" but I sure like the way you put it better! I am foggy brained today! My ex always made me feel as if he were trying to shut me up when I would voice my opinion or that he was embarrassed of me and the fact that I even HAD an opinion. A man who allows a woman to have her own mind (and likes her for it!) is a real man imho.

Very well said whiterose! Thank you for helping me (even though you did not know you were :) ) put my finger on what I was thinking!!

whiterose
11-01-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Tru
Very well said whiterose! Thank you for helping me (even though you did not know you were :) ) put my finger on what I was thinking!!

You're welcome. And, looking at all these posts, aren't all the similarities interesting?

Sage
11-01-2003, 07:31 PM
Ooooh-wow! I love reading these!
Thanks for adding to the thread!
:D

I thought I'd think on the subject a bit before I began listing a bunch of qualities.

I think what is most important to me now is a man that values my reasons and goals in life. Not so much monetary goals, but my goals as a human being.
These are goals in getting to where I want to be mentally and spiritually in the next 20 or so years.
I agree with what Tru wrote.
I don't want a man that tries to always "shut me up" or "turn me off" when it comes to my opinions and ideas,but a man that will welcome them and view them as having worth in his life as well as mine.

A good sense of humor is a must!!
I would jump Jay Leno in a heart beat just because I love his sense of humor so much.
He also needs to be able to laugh at himself.
I have a very sarcastic sense of humor and my ex hated it.
It was too bad too, because at times, he could be quite funny himself.

Compassionate.
I fall hard for men that enjoy animals, children, gardening, music, art cooking- all those things that are associated with "women".
A gentle man that can ease the fears in a frightened child has my affections.

Dedicated.
I like men dedicated to their goals and follows through with a plan in life.
I am not picky about what it is they have goals to do, as long as it is honest and does not hurt or take advantage of others.
I prefer a man that strives to learn and better himself by having an open mind and heart.

Not afraid to get dirty or sweat.
I love outdoorsmen. I am not that keen on hunting. I don't like killing animals and am not that fond of eating wild game, but fishing, crabbing and shrimping are something else.
The character that George Clooney played in "Perfect Storm" captured my heart.
I have to be with a man that loves camping, hiking and all of that as much as I do.
He must love the sea and all that comes with it as I spend a LOT of time there!!

Okay, his looks.
I prefer tall men on the lanky side, but with some nice muscles earned from being active outside or plain old hard work.
Blue or green eyes with dark hair makes my heart melt.
A genuine friendly smile and hearty laugh are also qualities that make my heart melt.
I have a thing for a man's hands and I don't mind if they are rough or not. But NO long nails.

Looks are NOT the important thing - it is his character that seduces me and all the other fine qualities that define him.

swanqueen
11-01-2003, 07:34 PM
I think sense of humor is winning by a mile

SO Chuckles the Clown must get laid daily :D

whiterose
11-01-2003, 08:06 PM
LMAO Swanqueen!!

Sage: you and I are on the same page about so many of those qualities.

Savannah
11-01-2003, 08:13 PM
Most attractive quality in a man: loves dogs!! :D

Okay, sense of humour is a close second......... I'm going to narrow that a little further and say a sense of humour close to my own, which tends to be rather dry.

An ability to be comfortable with silence, and without a need for constant entertainment.

Respect and kindness towards others.

Blue or green eyes with dark hair makes my heart melt.
I guess they must make my heart melt, too, because I've never been attracted to anything else. As for body type, I find myself more attracted to men who are tall and slim, but that's not an exclusive preference.

special K
11-01-2003, 09:30 PM
What's attractive to me in a man:
1. Intelligence...
2. Spiritual connection
3. Sense of humor
4. Physical Attraction (chemistry?)... I have dated all varieties, but
a warm smile that tells me, "you are the one person I'm
most interested in right now" does a lot for me. Side
note....when I was younger I used to think that being
REALLY physically attracted to someone was shallow..
that their character qualities mattered more. I ended up
marrying a man that I admired for his spirituality, and
inclusive personality (both good things)....BUT, I just
realized this year that I was NEVER totally attracted to
him physically. So, both sides of that coin are important.
BTW...I only realized that when I discovered how totally
attracted I was to my ym. The contrast was glaring.
5. Artistic/Creative personality
6. Wants verbal (emotional) intimacy as much as I do
7. Healthy, toned body
8. Kindness (a love for children, animals and anything that
needs nurturing)
9. Clean lifestyle (no drugs, getting drunk, cussing a lot, etc.)
10. Focused and successful (not neccessarily financially, but
confident and heading toward a goal)

special K
11-01-2003, 09:32 PM
For me....at least 10 years younger (they match me better in general)!

jonny_loves_you
11-01-2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by PinkPanther_04

normal.



Pink,

Your mailbox is full ,

I goto University of texas austin too

i am a senior cs/engineering major

should have known someone this smart was a fellow longhorn. . .haha j/k

whats your major ? sounds like it law

Foreveryoung
11-01-2003, 11:08 PM
Warmth, kindness, emotional and mental maturity. A guy who shares my spiritual beliefs/practices, without necessarily wearing them on his sleeve. A man with great sense of humor who likes pets and is an all round good scout can walk this "little older lady" across the street any day :) Physically, I prefer guys under 5'10'' with a muscular build and a pleasant, well modulated speaking voice. And of course he finds me irresistable :)

PinkPanther_04
11-02-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by jonny_loves_you
I goto University of texas austin too
i am a senior cs/engineering major
should have known someone this smart was a fellow longhorn. . .haha j/k
whats your major ? sounds like it law
Just like a T-sip to not pay attention. :rolleyes: I'm an Aggie, Jonny. :p

And no, not law, though my mom would love it if I went to law school. Read my profile, man. I'm majoring in wildlife and fisheries sciences. I'm going to start grad school next year to study animal behavior and evolution.

And I did clean out my inbox.


Another thing to add to this thread: Please, for the love of God, be interesting! Have some interests and hobbies and thoughts and beliefs! Even if I don't agree with them! Just have something to say! And please understand (and this may just be specific to me) that people are animals and the rest of Kingdom Animalia really isn't that much different from us in a lot of respects! (yes, I did just get back from a first date with someone who did not fit those qualifications. :rolleyes: )

BadDreamer999
11-02-2003, 02:15 AM
Oh My!
what attracts me most to a man.....that was the question, right?
the shyness, the beauty of shy so attracts me!
I was in awe of a natural spirit , it was cemented, that this guy would be my guy forever!:) ;)

Carazy
11-02-2003, 05:32 AM
Ok, I read all these great posts and been wondering about my "type" ... - lol ...

I think I used to have a preferred type when I was younger (like early 20s) - but 2-3 relationships on with very nice, yet different men, I think I can safely say that I don't think there are any definite qualities that attract me to a man - of if so, this might have been changing over time ...

A lot of the qualities you mentioned are generally attractive qualities, which I would appreciate from men and women alike - none of that would qualify as a "distinctive" characteristic that a prospective partner for me would HAVE to have, although it would be cool tho ;) - as others said, the main thing would be that we would have to "click" on several levels ... Althougth "cleanliness" and generally decent behaviour are definitely a must :)

I guess I just have to feel comfortable, relaxed, happy and secure with my guy ;) no matter which of his qualities he can utilize to that end :D

swanqueen
11-02-2003, 09:21 AM
You know I should have a better idea about what attracts me.

I am on match.com and I get emails from guys everyday wanting to meet. I go look at their profile and determine if I am going to email them back. Yesterday I spoke on the phone with two of them. One I liked and one I didn't.

So what was it that caused me to like one and not the other?

You know this thread is good but I'm afraid we may be hurting feelings, the guys who read this may find themselves in the do not like category and feel hurt. It may make them say to themselves ... see no woman will want me. Just a thought.

But anyways back to my "two men" And I am not going to cheat and go back and read their profiles, I'm going to try to pull it from my gut.

1 seemed wimpy
2 seemed masculine
in both appearance and voice

1 couldn't write a sentence, I mean really bad
2 was articulate

1 was 1 hour away
2 was 4 miles away

1 seemed to have few interests, worked for GM in skilled trades.
2 owned his own business, recorded music, and used to build houses.

1 had a mousey brown thin hair
2 had thick curly long black hair

But inside they were both GOOD MEN. And they both deserve love. The one I didn't pick is a widower too. Feel bad for him.

Lets just hope the one I picked hasn't had 100 past lovers with no condoms ;)

swanqueen
11-02-2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by blondie
This sounds really selfish, and I AM probably one of the more selfish regular posters here at agelesslove, but I grew up the baby of a huge extended family. I like to be taken care of, fawned over and given gifts and attention, so that ability and action in a man is highly attractive.

Well Blondie to thine own self be true :D

I have not gotten much of the pampering, on the one or two occasions that men bought me expensive gifts it kind a blew me away. I have to say, yes on one hand I liked it, but it also made me feel like I owed them something (not necessarily sex) and I am very very uncomfortable in a situation where the guy has MUCH more to give than I do. I feel like I need to reciprocate in some way.

whiterose
11-02-2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by swanqueen
You know this thread is good but I'm afraid we may be hurting feelings, the guys who read this may find themselves in the do not like category and feel hurt. It may make them say to themselves ... see no woman will want me. Just a thought.

I thought about this, too. I don't ever want to hurt anyone's feelings or make them feel unimportant.

I think that most of us agree that what really matters is the make up of a man's character. Is he a genuinely good person? But, at the end of the day, I think most of us are saying that there must be some chemistry. And, I don't see anything wrong with being honest about our opinions about what we are attracted to.

PinkPanther_04
11-02-2003, 10:56 AM
You know this thread is good but I'm afraid we may be hurting feelings, the guys who read this may find themselves in the do not like category and feel hurt. It may make them say to themselves ... see no woman will want me. Just a thought.
I was thinking just the opposite. The few physical characteristics that have been brought up have been different for everyone. Everything else has been just basic emotional requirements, and those are also somewhat variable. For instance, it has been mentioned several times that men who are good with kids are attractive. I don't feel that way because I don't want kids and I don't want to be with a man who does. That's just a personal issue. Every woman is different in her priorities.

irparis
11-02-2003, 12:06 PM
but at the end of the day, its really how I'm treated that will attract me to a guy, regardless of what he looks like.

It would be nice if our guys had all the qualities on our mental checklist...but its obvious by the kind of guys we've gone out with or end up with, everyone is an exception on some level as we come to recognize that we are not perfect and everyone has their own specialness about them.

And as for chemistry, I've never quite understood the big deal with chemistry as I don't feel I have such a complicated personality and can more or less click with everyone even with my gay male friends.

I'm with Swan, never like being given expensive gifts or the guy that says he wants to treat me like a queen puts me on edge....the gifts I want are the ones that take a lifetime of giving & recieving and last a lifetime and beyond. When I leave this life, I want to take with me a lifetime, of love, of laughter, of tears, kindness, integrity, and compassion.

I remember when I saw the movie Ghost and Sam was leaving Molly at the end, I cried when he said "its amazing Molly, the love, you take it with you". At that moment it reiterated, that everything else is just temporal be it body type, eye colour, weight, height, whether he can dance or not, be the best sex partner or not, whether he has money or not.

Paris

irparis
11-02-2003, 01:18 PM
I think what everyone means...

A man who does well with kids has the capacity for unconditional love, whether you or he wants kids or not.

Its a great quality to have and speaks volumes about his character, because even if neither one of yous want kids, we're not living in a kid-free world. Even if he doesn't feel comfortable around kids, if he can appreciate the childlike innocence of their spirits, he can emulate that love on any level, with different people especially his SO.

I think when we say that a love of children and animals is an attraction, we are stating that that person has a much deeper capacity to an emotion that transcend beyond our superficialness and shallowness. Can we learn that quality on our own, of cause, it may take us longer. We have no perspective from which to base it on, but seeing it from a child's world changes us immediately, hopefully, makes us more selfless.

I hope this clarifies.

Paris

PinkPanther_04
11-02-2003, 01:30 PM
Well, I agree about the love of animals part, but I still wouldn't start a serious relationship with anyone who might want kids of his own. (and most men who like kids either want them or already have them) Personally, if I was in a relationship with someone who really liked kids, even if he said he didn't want any, I would be afraid that one day he would wake up and realize he was giving up something important in his life and our relationship would be over. I wouldn't want to hold anyone back or make them feel the need to compromise on something like that.

That's just me, and I know I'm in the minority in general. It was just intended as an innocuous comment about preferences. If there's some guy saying "well I don't feel comfortable around kids, so I guess I'm not what women want," he should know that some women would appreciate that as well. Same as for any of the preferences listed in this thread.

onetiger
11-02-2003, 01:57 PM
I don't necessarily want kids either, but I do prefer a guy who is okay with kids as my brother will have a few in the next few years and I work with kids (school counselor). And who knows, I might change my mind about the kids thing. It happens in my family a lot. But I do understand what you are saying Pink.

Carazy
11-02-2003, 03:33 PM
hm, what about a guy who totally loves animals but doesn't care too much about kids? (not talking about not wanting any of his own, but rather not inclined to deal with them)? Or vice versa, who's great with kids and good with them, but dislikes animals? ;) Does that reflect a limited capability to love ?! :confused:

I guess one or the other would work fine with me ... - actually, I think someone with a preference for animals works fine with me, I mean, lol ;) If he's cool with kids, fine - but it's not a decisive criterion for me neither ;)

Moonshadow
11-03-2003, 01:38 AM
A guy who can explain the difference between wavelets and matrices. :cool:

Kerri
11-08-2003, 11:03 PM
...While we are cooking in the kitchen he gives me a kind of "you are just great" smile...comes up behind me, moves my hair to the side, kisses my neck and wraps his arms around my waist whilst resting his head on my shoulder...

okay, two:
I think I like emotional maturity. That would be a good start.

...and a nice ***.

(so, that's 3!)

swanqueen
11-08-2003, 11:13 PM
I like a man heavier rather than thin

Very masculine in dress, like jeans and a plaid shirt

Dark hair, beard is great

Not too tall, not too short

Brown eyes are best. Light blue are worse.

Hands that have worked, calloused.

Quiet shy demeanor. Jokes a lot.


WAIT I KNOW, I LOVE AL BORLAND from HOME IMPROVEMENT.

Savannah
11-08-2003, 11:24 PM
I didn't think I had a physical "type" either, but brown-eyed men are conspicuously absent from my dating history.

And the really odd thing is that, any time I've found a Bottle Blond guy attractive, turns out that his natural shade is brown........ My subconscious knows best, I guess!

swanqueen
11-08-2003, 11:25 PM
Got this in my JUNK mail and it is an ad but I thought it fit.

Dear Dave,

I was very skeptical of your approach, but I
have been trying C & F routine recently and it has
been working like a charm. Your CD is incredible
with information that builds on your book. An
example of C & F happened recently. Women always
make comments of my age and how I appear much
younger than my age (i'm in my mid-thirties but
appear to be 24-25). Before reading your book and
listening to your CD, I would simply laugh or say
thank you if a woman said I looked a lot younger
than my age. Recently I was out with my friends
and this good-looking woman said the same
comment. My response was "come on, I'm not going
to fall for a line that. You women just want me
for my youthful looks". Then I continued busting
on her and left with her e-mail. My friends were
all shocked by my exchange with her and my
success.

I have a question though Dave. What if a woman,
in the conversation with you, states she does not
like a certain type of guy; for example she says
she likes tall guys but one happens to be short.
Can you give be a couple of examples of turning a
perceived deficit (height, lack of hair, etc) into
Cocky and funny responses?

Thanks a million,

Disciple in Training in D.C.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

First of all, I really enjoy the way you've
turned the issue of looking younger around and
framed it as a woman's pathetic attempt to pick
you up and use you.

This is CLASSIC Cocky & Funny, and it does all
the right things... it creates sexual tension,
humor, and a challenge all at the same time.

Very nice.

But the part of your email that I really like is
the QUESTION you've asked.

You're asked:

"What if a woman, in the conversation with you,
states she does not like a certain type of guy;
for example she says she likes tall guys but one
happens to be short. Can you give be a couple of
examples of turning a perceived deficit (height,
lack of hair, etc) into Cocky and Funny
responses?"

Here's something that you must remember:

IF YOU BEHAVE AS IF WHAT A WOMAN THINKS OF YOU IS
IMPORTANT, THEN YOU'LL BE VERY LIKELY TO DO
SOMETHING TO MAKE HER NOT BE ATTRACTED TO YOU.

Remember, ATTRACTION isn't a "logical" process.
It really doesn't make very much sense (until you
understand how it works, that is).

Just because a woman SAYS that she doesn't "like"
a certain "type" of guy doesn't mean that she can't
feel a POWERFUL ATTRACTION for a guy of this "type".

Are you with me here?

ATTRACTION is an emotion.

A "type" is a PREFERENCE.

They are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

Here's a good example: Women are universally more
interested in taller men. If you ask a woman what
"type" of "height" ISN'T her type, she'll say something
like "short guys" or "guys who are shorter than me" etc.

I have NEVER met a woman in my entire life who said
"I like shorter guys". Never.

But guess what?

I have at least 4 or 5 friends who are in the 5'2"
to 5'6" range that are UNBELIEVABLE with women. They
ALL date beautiful women who are taller than them.

So what's going on here?

ATTRACTION is what's going on.

So when you ask me how to use a Cocky & Funny line to
turn a "perceived deficit" around, the FIRST thing I
have to say is "Stop thinking of it as a deficit".

First you need to stop caring what a woman thinks of
you ALLTOGETHER. Completely.

If you care what she thinks of you, then you're
probably going to start acting like a total WUSS,
and you're going to screw things up anyway.

Women aren't ATTRACTED to men who look to them for
approval. Women are ATTRACTED to men who are strong,
independent, and not affected by the opinions of others
(this is a generalization, but it's basically true).

So based on this new perspective, here are a few ways
that you could handle a situation like this one...

1) NOT CARE AT ALL

One of the things you could do is just address
comment at all... as if it didn't even exist.

A mistake many people make is thinking that they
MUST take every communication that another person
takes seriously and then RESPOND to it.

Not so.

You don't have to do ANYTHING if you don't want
to.

So if a woman says "I like tall guys" you can just
act as if it had never been said, and continue with
your conversation, getting her email/number, or whatever.

By the way, this concept can be EXTREMLY useful in
other situations as well. For instance, if a woman
starts getting upset about something and being overly
dramatic, one great thing to do is NOTHING AT ALL. Just
sit there and don't respond at all. Then, when it
settles down a little, just continue your conversation
as if nothing had happened (Oh, and stop hanging out
with dramatic, overly-emotional women too, you dork!).

2) BRING IT UP BEFORE HER

In this case, you're talking about height. One way
to deal with this is to bring it up before she does.

As soon as you start talking say "Well, you're taller
than me... I'm over it, are you yet?"

This says a few things. It says that you know what's
going on... it says you're confident... and it shows
that you're not afraid to deal with it.

It also addresses the issue in such a way that you'll
know where she stands on it.

If she just CAN'T get past it, she'll tell you.


3) MAKE IT HER PROBLEM

Here's a place to use Cocky & Funny.

You might say "Wow, you're kind of a freak. I think
something like 1% of women are as tall as you. It must
suck trying to find nice pants, huh? You have to wear
all those weird pants made for freaks and stuff."

Or if she's talking about a trait that she's attracted
to, point out the negative sides of that trait in a Cocky
& Funny way.

Maybe she says "I like men who know how to treat a lady
special, take her nice places, and who pay for everything
to show that they're a gentleman".

You might say "Oh, so what you're telling me is that you
like men who basically pay for your attention with money
and gifts... how romantic."


...The one thing that you'll find at the bottom of all
the ideas that I've just presented is FIRST OF ALL, NOT
CARING WHAT SHE THINKS OF YOU.

I know that it's a paradox... you obviously want her
to like you, but you have to not care what she thinks of you.

Well, get over it.

Women aren't attracted to men who are APPROVAL SEEKERS.

And if a woman throws out a comment like "I like tall
guys", you must first learn to NOT CARE, and not let it
impact you emotionally.

Then you'll be free to redirect the conversation and
decide if she's the kind of woman that YOU would like to
go out with.

By the way, when you are interacting with a woman, one
of the MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS that will determine whether
or not she will feel ATTRACTION for you is YOUR BELIEFS
AND HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THEM.

And you are constantly communicating your beliefs with
your body language, voice tone, words, topics, questions,
and everything else you do.

Savannah
11-08-2003, 11:47 PM
Oh, yeah, that Cocky and Funny routine is gonna get REAL far with me....... :rolleyes:

The thing is, if I'm having a conversation with a guy that I'm not interested in who happens to be quite a bit shorter than me, I'm not going to bluntly say, "I only date tall men" -- I'm not that rude! I'm just going to show signs of non-interest. (But I'm sure buddy Dave has a sure-fire routine for Non-Interest, too.)

Savannah
11-09-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by babes66
AND I love the photo, who KNEW you were so hot?????

Thanks, Sis. (I make brief appearances, then back to the dogs I go!) Obviously I have a little too much time on my hands on a Saturday nite..............

Can't say I've ever ruled out a guy for something with as little relevance as height -- last b/f was 6" shorter than me.

I'd rule one out for Attitude, though (Cocky and Funny a la Dave comes to mind). :D

Genevieve
11-09-2003, 12:05 AM
Savannah! Great avatar. What a lovely lady!

Savannah
11-09-2003, 12:36 AM
Awwww....... thanks, Gen. (I just wish I didn't look so darned serious!)

Maria
11-09-2003, 07:04 AM
Don't underestimate us, PG.

And don't super estimate yourself. ;)

Maria
11-09-2003, 08:13 AM
I'd take the drink and if they asked something in return, I'd ask him "how much". :p

Maria
11-09-2003, 08:16 AM
Back to the real question, what attracts me most in a man...

Of course some things attracts me to any human being like being kind, funny, intelligent, caring.

In a man, especifically, sensuality and some secret chemical potion to which I have no way to resist. Not very logical, but that's what stops me from being attracted to 99,99% of the men in this planet, knowing that 0,01 is still a lot of possibilities.


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