Moderation Issues

Okay, as carried over from a thread that is getting flooded in relationship support...

If you have issues with the moderation of the boards, please put them here...and I will try to address them.

I feel like we have done this many times before, and I feel like it almost always comes out the same, and most people here are happy with the way the site is moderated...

However, I don't want anyone to feel that I don't hear their opinions, and if you have something you would like to discuss...lets do it!!!

Please post the issues that concern you below...

Jody

I didn't see this, sorry. I already posted on the "flooded" thread.

I have no complaints. Like I told you in my PM.... I expected to be moderated for what I said because I was pushing the boundaries of a personal attack, which by the way I agree is wrong. Just couldn't help myself. So I expected it to be deleted which it wasn't :D

About me being moderated, and yes it was by Maria, and it was several times. I took no offense. I corrected what she didn't like. I said that to sailaway so she wouldn't take it personally and think she was the only one moderated. I mean she evidently felt hurt about it since she said she hadn't posted since!!

About mel who PMd me once and told me not to call her mel so maybe it's just me who she doesn't want to call her that. You say that cursing is deleted but when someone posts (and I'm not saying these are her words but just an example) you f**king a$$hole.... I mean do the stars and dollar signs really help?

No you can't moderate negative comments but I thought civility was expected here.

Swan, I understand where you are coming from. I went back and deleted my post in the aforementioned thread, mostly because I think I went overboard. Im having a rough time of it lately, and it makes me completely over-emotional.

And you know, personally, I would not care if people cussed on the site, unless it was the f-word, but it nearly always is the dang F-word...and no the dollar signs and whatever don't disguise it a bit. However, if I took the time to go around and delete all the dollars signs and ****** <whatever those are called, I would not be able to have a real job!

I think it is up to everyone to moderate themselves mostly. And as far as your post on the other thread to Melisande, well, you have the right to express your opinion as well, and Im not going to have a problem with that.

I do expect everyone to be civil, I just can't be everyone's babysitter. We have to take some of that responsibility onto ourselves...

Thanks for posting here....*hugs*

Just my two cents here.

First of all, we continually use euphemisms for the F word . . . so what's the difference? I was PM'd and told my post was edited because I had posted F**ker and I see it all over the board not being edited.

If we're going to be edited, there needs to be consistancy in that.

Personally, I feel we should be able to say what we want since we are all adults unless it is an outright rude personal attack on someone and those need to be taken to PM's.

We had a thread which talked about the term YM being offensive and everyone stated their views on that. The views were for both sides. We just had the thread you referred to regarding the term MILF being offensive and it seems that those who didn't find it offensive were chastised about that. WTF? Sorry, but I think if we are going to run an honest thread, then people need to be able to post their honest opinions and not have to walk on eggshells all the time.

It seems to me that we have a few who get offended at the least little thing and then tattle to the moderators that their feelings got hurt all the time, rather than taking their beef through PM to the perceived offender.

I have never complained about anyone's post and don't plan to. I can fight my own battles and don't care to drag anyone else into them.

The way I feel about it, if I ask for an opinion on a matter, I want to receive everyone's honest, unedited opinon. And if anyone has anything to say to me or regarding any of my posts, then let them say it.

There are only a couple people on this board whom I find really offensive, and I have chosen to just ignore them completely. That is the best way to handle them.

Just my honest opinion.

Originally posted by Nessa
IT HAS TO BE FAIR. It also has to be OBJECTIVE not subjective.

WE are adults, if you don't like foul language don't read the posts. Don't use it. If you don't like someone IGNORE THEM.

Speak your opinion. Speak your mind. Don't call names. Don't be abusive.


Exactly! Couldn't agree more! Don't read the posts and ignore them if you find them offensive. But don't go pouting and whimpering about it because you found something you "think" is offensive.
True, we are adults, but some people like to cry like a three year old when they start knit-picking threads/posts they don't like.

I hope I didn't start a flame fest. But someone will read my post and find it offensive, watch.


joe :cool:

*Sighs*...I really dislike when this topic comes up...

I've been a moderator on a few sites, and know what goes on behind the scenes...

The moderators are like the police. They patrol the boards and make sure order is kept. The police, do not make the laws. Congress and the President do. In board terms, that is the administrator....

The moderators are enforcing the rules of the administrator. Just as the police enforce the rules that congress passes. I may not be *totally* up on my political ways...however, you get the jist...right? Quite often, people blame the moderators, and in many cases? And quite often, it is unfair.

Things like Free Speech and such do not apply on a message board. The website...etc...is privately owned, most likely. The owners/administrators can make whatever "freedoms" and what not, that they want. If they do not allow swearing...then, it is the moderator's job to make sure that, that area is covered...

They do this, and quite often it takes on a whole life of it's own, as a job in itself. And, rarely do moderators ever get paid. Even boards that are owned by large companies like Vivendi Entertainment, do not pay thier moderators.

With that being said, it is my opinion that the moderators here (Jody, Maria, Emcad) do a wonderful job. And, if I was to have a board that needed moderating, they would be among my first choices as to people whom I want to be my moderators.

Remember, they don't make rules, they enforce them. If they don't enforce the rules, then...they could lose thier moderator's position.

I've been in all three places: Regular Poster, Moderator, Administrator.

The admin is quite often forgotten. And the people that end up taking the most abuse, are the moderators, because of that.

That's just my two cents.

~Dan

I personally don't mind any topic or swear words. When I was moderated it was usually because I used vulgar language.

I only object to mindless rudeness towards others that is not constructive in any way. I know it was worse in the past but I am always aware of the fact that some of our long time, respected members are afraid to post their true situations because of fear of attack, or harshness.

I think the site is improving in that regard. I am not suggesting we all agree. Of course we all have the option of ignoring topics or people we don't like. I only hate when I see someone lashed at. Especially if it is a dear friend of mine.

Some of you say if you dare to post on a public forum you must be prepared for negativity. Well I say if you dare to bare your soul in public you should be handled with consideration not condemnation. Some may not want to hear what we say even if is said in the most nonjudgemental way. For example I think Paris is always very outspoken, but she does it in an intelligent and straighforward way. Not a hurtful way.

But I am not God and I can't ease the spirit of mean spirited people. But I may not necessarily keep my mouth shut either.

I would just like to say that I agree with peachy and everyone else that says we are adults and thus should act like them.

My question is: how can someone NOT find posts at the sexual section offensive????

we can't have a double standard.

hey dan since your such an expert then what exactly are the "rules"? (not being a smartaleck).

Please Follow Our Rules:

1. This Forum is for adults only. Please do not post on these forums unless you are 18 years of age or older.

2. We reserve the right to delete or ban any members post or thread that is pornographic, advertising related or non-related. Repeated misuse of the site will result in the membership being banned.

3. Controversial topics should be handled with respect and care of the community, we believe in freedom of speech, but also have a focus on harmony within the community. You will know if your thread or post is offensive and we would expect you to modify or delete the content as required.

Would someone be good enough to point me the "flooded" post in the relationship support forum so I can get a better perspective on this.

Thanks -
Gillian
p.s. I detest being called Gill! ;>))))

http://www.agelesslove.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6983


But I don't mind being called Swan

Thanks Swan......

I am away in the UK for the moment and can't really come to the site everyday, and I have to say some things about what is really getting to my nerves.

First, why do you love so much the f word? Why can't you live without it? This is not a teen's site, this is a site for mature people who I would expect can at least respect different cultures, different sensitivies and keep to a high level of discussion. I find it funny that some people say some of the f word shouldn't be deleted, because they are harmless in that or that context, and I know for a fact that these are the people who wrote to me saying, hey, you edited my f word (used against another member) and didn't edit x member's post (who used the word in a joking way, and I had missed it, because I can't read every f.....post here), this is not fair, and blablabla. Now, will you please explain me why you are so cool in public and so whiny with me in private?

I am just respecting the rules of this board, and so is Jody. The ones complaining are not even 10 people out of the almost 5000 members and 2300 ones that are more or less active. So, for you that don't agree with moderation, and can't show a better reason than 'we want to use the f word', please leave. Stop making us come here every three weeks to discuss the same things (oh, I see, even I felt the urge to use the f word now :rolleyes: ) and find a (oh, again that urge) site where you can do it!!

Because if I have to control myself, and I do it successfully, why can't you?

We are very fair, very neutral and very caring about what we do here. I have moderated people and except for two or three cases, they all agreed it was okay to change the way they had expressed themselves. I'm sorry if some of you need to use harsh words to prove your points, because in that case, even when your point is good, you have lost the others' respect. And you will be edited, deleted or whatever is necessary to keep the level of respect around ageless.

Stop harassing us. Let us keep up with a work that has been giving wonderful results with the return of members long lost, members afraid of posting their private stories because of fear of being attacked (and the attackers are still around, they are just under control), etc.

I have to say I'm tired of these discussions. The few of you who are unhappy about moderation should complain with clear reasons, show us where we have been unfair. Moderation is subjective, but we can't do much about it except work together the two of us and base ourselves always and eternally on the same principles: no insults and no going against the rules. I'm sorry if you were not chosen to moderate, but I'm sure if you all had been, we would have 5000 ways of doing this job.

Just a reminder: If anyone does post the f word it is automatically edited by the software.

Regards,
Rob

I have a question for the moderators...

When a thread is pulled, do you notify the individual that wrote the post that caused the thread to be pulled?

I ask because I noticed that the MILF thread was pulled sometime after I had posted and I was pretty worried that maybe it was something I said. :( So, I wasn't sure if you inform the individual.

Thanks!

We notify, yes, but if your post is just inside a thread that has been pulled by other reasons, you won't be notified and neither will be the other posters, we only notify the person who opened the thread. Unless your post is being directly moderated by something you did, you won't get any messages from us.

Also, sometimes a post that was okay has to be deleted because it's a response to another post which was a problem and thus had been deleted. Your post then will be meaningless and will be deleted too.

Thanks! I appreciate the clarification. And btw, I support 100% anyone who has the job of moderating human beings. I have a department of 50 employees working for me. In many ways I feel like a moderator myself at work.

Forums are new to me. I had never even heard of them until I came here. So, I feel like I'm still learning how things work. I never mind if anyone tells me if I have said or done something wrong. I do, however, want to be able to express my opinions freely and without judgment from anyone. But, I promise I will always be careful and try to word things so as not to hurt or offend anyone.

Whiterose, you, like the majority of our members here, have never been insulting to anyone and I doubt you'll ever be moderated.

Your (you=all the members here, not you whiterose :) ) opinions are always respected if they are voiced in a respectful way. It's a two way road...you give, you receivem you listen, you answer.

If you attack, it's not a discussion anymore, it's a lost battle for you.

In all honesty, I am the one that pulled the MILF thread, due to the fact that we were going to lose a member who felt that my editing would be preferential towards another person. I was just going to edit a few specific posts on both sides, but rather than run the risk of losing someone over the thread, I decided to delete it. It wasn't anything you said, or actually any one person in particular, it just got off topic.

And well, as to the F-word, as the administrator pointed out, it is not us editing the F-word, it is the software doing it for us.

Its very difficult here sometimes, when you have a box full of complaints from different people, to resolve all the issues....and still leave everyone feeling good. We also have what I call "grudge holders" who then report almost every single post by someone they had a disagreement with.

Everyone's points are valid, everyone had the right to an opinion...and well, it's everyone's board, not mine. I do recommend if you have an problem with one of the rules, that instead of contacting me, you contact the administrator, who is the person who sets the rule and regulations of this site as, well, he owns it.

All in all, as said many times before, this is a great place, it is provided to you for free by someone who provides it to you with no personal gain....and actually, for those of you who don't know him, is a really nice guy. I think we should be thankful.

And, as it our job to ensure the integrity of the site, and enforce the rules...that will continue to happen. There are certain rules that are very firm, and those are the ones set by the administrator. It may upset some people, but we all read the rules when we joined, and I think we are all very aware of them at this point. If you can't follow the rules, or find them too harsh, it may be that you will have to find a site whose rules you can accept. That sounds harsh, but knowing that this certain rules will not change....its the truth.

I need to say something. When I first came to the board over a year ago I was SO excited that I'd found a support group to discuss like-minded issues. I was in a relationship that was unconventional and felt relieved that I finally found a place to SAFELY talk about it. I needed advice, help and encouragement, which I pretty much got. BUT...there were a couple of people who were so judgmental and opinionated...using derogatory comments and foul language to make a point to me, that I soon was too afraid to post at all. I never retaliated (that's not my style), but I considered leaving the board...I was disillusioned and hurt: not because I am thin-skinned, but because I thought this was a place for shared ideas, consulation and friendship, not, as Maria said, foul-mouthed teenager-types who lacked respect, kindness and the intelligence to express themselves without profanity or derogatory comments.

I have to say, that the few back then who were so insensitive must have been moderated off the board...they are no longer here. So, I am not talking about anyone currently on the board. But, I do have to say that after the Oprah show there were times when threads were mean spirited or bordering on profane here. I worried that the positive publicity we'd just received (that age gap love was GREAT, and we were intelligent good people involved in them) would not ring true to newbies investigating the site for the first time.

The moderators here are amazing...they are kind people who spend a lot of the free time they don't have to provide a safe haven for us all to share thoughts and ideas. If it weren't for these EXACT moderators, I think I would depart because I'm not sure I would trust anyone else with the daunting task they have.

Okay, so I taught English....but I always told my students that it takes less intelligence to cuss and makes less of an impact verbally than if you use your brain and vocabulary skills to express yourself eloquently. You want to make a point? Keep your cool, take the high road, and use words that support your intelligence level.

And, specifially here....if someone feels particularly frustrated or angry or like they need to use the F word....why not PM the intended person rather than subject everyone else to your tantrum? Free Speech is great, but not at the expense of someone else's dignity.

The rules dissallow those under 18 to post....but I'm sure many younger lurk and read. Heck, I'm way over 18 and I don't want to read profanity or attacks. There is so much wisdom here, including within the people who have posted previously on this very thread....why should the majority of us have to wade through profane or mean spirited/angry posts, just to get to the gems? If I feel like I have something to offer in a thread, but then read posts that are negative/vindictive/profane, etc....I usually don't add my thoughts because I don't want to be linked with the malcontents or insulted by them for a differing opinion.

Let's just all be kind and encouraging. You can be straightforward about an opinion or assessment of a situation without being hurtful or insulting. Women that come here it TURMOIL about a man they love don't need to hear, "Listen, Sweetie, grow up and kick the ***** to the curb. You are a loser if you don't!" I personally know of several here who don't post personal stuff any more because they are afraid of responses just like that. THAT"S SAD....because that's why this forum was created!

If we have something to say that's less than kind...we need to use the pm feature to make the point. Keep the boards clean and kind.

GO MARIA AND JODY!!!!! You guys are the BEST...

I agree with you 100%!!! :) Great post!

Wonderfully said Special K

marialux, I think that the main disagreement here is not whether people want to use the F-word. but in that their is impartiality, like your example that sometimes it was deleted and sometimes it wasn't.

people just want it to be fair.

also, no one notified me that my post was deleted... so what's up with that?

Sharpie, that was my fault. I was worked up and upset over some things at the time. I apologize for deleting your thread. It wasn't because of you that the thread was deleted, or even because of the topic of the thread, but because of the course it took after it started, and some with upset feelings. I did mean to just edit it down to your original post, but that did not happen.

My apologies to you...I should have sent you a note.

Sharpie, I'd like people to point me out a real case of impartiality and I will come back to the; with my explanation. Until then, this remains pure attacks with no other purpose than whining to get attention. I'm talking again about the people complaining, not directly to you, sharpie, because despite what may have inspired this discussion in appearance, the real subject behind it is the eternal whining of the same old people who are not happy with moderation AT ALL. Some of these people have said before they would prefer no moderation, and thus whatever we do, either if we say no f-word or no calling people idiots, they won't be happy. Period.

We are impartial and fair, and we are sticking to this until the end, ask my best pals here, they've been moderated as much as anyone else, and we remain friends, because thanks God and my good raising, I'm as fair as one can get.

I don't like to brag, but I know that nobody here is more fair than I am. You may be as much as I am, like Jody for example, but more, only God.;)

Whenever you find something wrong, think first that it may be something we missed reading, since there are times like now when Jody is all alone moderating and I'm in a trip. It will happen again from december to march, when I'm out to Brazil. In this case you should report the posts which are insulting, or send a PM do Jody about the problem or question you have, we always answer everything.

As for whole threads that are deleted, we won't be communicating everyone who posted in it, you can easily imagine that if a thread disappears it's because it took a nasty turn and then only person entitled to an explanation is the original poster, who will probably have to open a new thread. Our position, though, has been that of deleting the posts which are disturbing and keeping the thread to the people willing to discuss things in an intelligent way.

Name them, Nessa.

I think you are being personal, Nessa, not me. To give you one good example, you think I deleted insults made to you because of YOU.

Well, the news is, I make this for the whole community who doesn't want to see insults around as many others have said here. I am not mad nor taking anything personal, but I certainly am tired of some of you who don't like moderation of any kind, and you have said this publicly here, and instead of leaving a site that is moderated you keep coming of full charge on us, like bulls, for nothing.

You can't name a thread, can you? I have all deleted threads saved and I can't recall a thread of you deleted with or without notice. If you are talking posts, I am absolutely sure of having sent notices to every poster, unless the ones I just mentioned to sharpie, which of course you are not. Or like I said to whiterose, when the posts were responses that had to go together with a bad post of different author.

Tell me, Nessa, when you can't find the answer to a simple question that would have proved your point, do you always treat your friends this way? Trying to accuse me of being a heavy moderator? Tell me why, again, give me an example, not your subjective impression, but a fact, I just need one like this. Give me something! If you come again with the f-word, I guess I will have to say you've got nothing.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I have never been heavy handed, I am fair handed, but fairness surely takes away lots of bad power from the ones who love creating disturbance, doesn't i?

I would also like to point out, now that we are being personal, that many of the whiners have been trying to influence me and Jody by saying, please delete that or that person, ban her or him...

So if you have an enemy on the boards, you might have been the tarjet of this person, and if you are still here, it's because we have a very impartial attitude and fair hand.

Many times the demanding is bilateral...believe me, silent members, the ones crying out loud are the ones who ask and ask and ask and once they don't get what they want, they come heavily on us.

Some have fair observations to make, I am sure. I am just waiting for them. Bring me real examples where we were unfair or heavy handed, going against the rules established by the administrator, and we'll discuss that with you.

Nice, it makes me sad to see you are calling me liar. That is a bad line, Nessa, completely unfair and proves that words for you are just words that you can use without measuring how much you hurt people. When I say I notify the posters, I do and it's not a lie as you try to imply.

I didn't invent the rules here, but I agree with them. What you call heavy handed is just applying those rules. Many more people have come back to Ageless than left, and you know why?

Because most of us don't agree that we should grow a thick skin or put people on ignore in life. Most of us think we should be allowed to come to a support site without having to be insulted.

And whenever you call me heavy handed or unfair, Nessa, my answers to you are honest and calmly spoken, this is not attacking, this is responding to an attack with the best of my logic.

And now I go back to my conferences, which are enriching and will help people in future. No place in my life for taking disguised personal and unfair attacks and I just hope the newbies coming won't be influenced by your words and think I'm not a fair moderator. I hope the older members will keep coming and saying the truth, free of any preconceived ideas (some people hate moderation and thus moderators, whomever they may be), just to tell the newbies that this site is safe and it's free of aggressive people as far as we are around.

I don't want to go into specifics here, so I'm just going to make a general statement about moderation and policing.

I visit several boards over the internet - the largest of which has some 34,500 members and the smallest of which has about 1000. Not all of them are moderated with the same stringency, but the ones I want to visit again and again are the ones that are strongly moderated. They are the ones with consistently the highest standard of discussion and a definite sense of community.

I do not want to lower my standards to fit in with the lowest common denominator of any community, I want fair and honest discussion on the internet just as I do IRL, the people with the loudest voices do not deserve to dominate. On the other hand I don't want to be mothered and stifled.

The moderators set the tone of a board and enforce the rules set down by the admin, they are not infallible though and have to make judgement calls - often based on events and happenings that we know nothing about. Of course we can question the judgements they make when they appear unfair - but just because we don't agree it does not automatically mean that they are actually being unfair.

I have never been moderated either here or on any other site - is it because I'm some sort of Angel who never has strong opinions or because I'm pals with the moderators? No, it's just because I behave with manners and thoughtfulness - do I get mad? Yes of course:rolleyes: But I type out my response and then leave it for 10 mins and come back and read it again - 9 times out of 10 I edited or don't post at all.

Now I'm not saying that everyone that has been moderated has behaved badly, I do understand that sometimes you feel so strongly about something you just have to post, but we do all know the rules and expectations of this board and shouldn't be surprised if we get modded when we break them or skirt close to the edges.

Now to specifics afterall - this board is NOT heavily moderated! It is however well moderated. Nor is the TOS here especially severe - it's only what I would expect for a site intended for intelligent, mature people. By signing up to this board we are accepting the admin's rules, and by extension the moderators policing of us, sure we can discuss changing the rules but while they stand we should respect them.

Before Maria joined me in moderating, I, myself, sometimes deleted things without notifying people on occasion. This was because
A. I didn't have enough time to send them. and
B. I figured people usually knew why their post was deleted if the knew the rules here.

Since Maria came along, I believe we have always sent a note. i do think that at one point we, or I , were a little heavy handed in the moderating, and that was because we were having a hard time deciding exactly where to draw the line between attacks and opinions, but that has been a very long time ago. I feel we have a good track record that shows fair and equal moderation.

You know everyone...this site is a gift. It is given to you for free, and moderated for you for free.....it's not something that was owed to you...Its a GIFT. Our time spent here is a gift to each and every one of you, and of course Maria gets upset when you throw the gift back in our face. It gets very frustrating defending yourself time and again, for something you devote so much time and energy to. The only compensation we receive for this is the the appreciation we get from the members who care to offer it.

You should think about it....

PS..I will leave this thread until the end of the day, and then I am deleting it. I have made notes of any true suggestions or complaints....

After that point, if anyone has anything they would really like to discuss, PM me to arrange a time to meet in chat.

I'm not complaining here just wondering...why will you delete this thread?

I would have thought it may be best to leave a thread like this up - I find that deletion always causes more ripples than editing or comment. It makes people wonder what you've got to hide when in fact you don't have anything to hide at all.

It means that people can see that discussion has taken place and has been addressed wether negatively or positively and may even stop some of those conspiracy rumours ;)

Things may have become a little accrimonious but isn't it better to leave these things out in the open? Sweeping them under the carpet won't make them go away - it'll only make for a dusty rug :D

I think it leaves negative energy out there. Save a copy if you want but I don't think it serves any purpose for every newbie to come here and read and wonder what the heck is going on here. If I found a picture of my BF with another woman and we hashed it out and worked through it, I would not see any reason to keep that picture out or even in a drawer somewhere. Would I just want every friend who came over to see it and ask me "What is that?" so I could stir it up again? I would tear it up and throw it away and move on. Is that a good analogy? Something that causes some hurt, sparks discussion, and comes to some resolution. If you leave it, someone will resurrect it at some point and it starts all over again. You don't need to keep the reminder around. Just learn and move on. :)

Well, actually, the reason I was going to pull it was because we already have 2 or 3 similar threads back there somewhere that everyone is more than welcome to read. They all pretty much have the same outcome. And well, yes, I hate to even look at it. I definitely will at least unstick it where it is not right up front like this.

I'm just going to say one thing...

I really think all parties involved, need to step back and away from this thread (or from eachother for 12-24 hours). I am afraid if they don't...things are going to be said, things are going to be typed and feelings are going to get hurt...

Trust me on this one. I just went through crap like this last week at work, in my office. I begged two people to walk away for 24 hours, to cool and calm down. They didn't and things kept going...

That lets you cool down, calm down and you can think about what you want to say and not go on pure emotion.

Just my two cents...

~Dan "Oh yes they call him the streak....!"

Originally posted by Dan_Shues


~Dan "Oh yes they call him the streak....!"

Hmmm...is that a hint of things to come Dan? :D

I see your point Tru - but these things seem to come up again and again - and even if thread is deleted the negative energy will just be there festering - better to let the air get at it, as my mum always used to say :)

Once it's unstickied it will sink anyway - or at least hopefully so.

The thing is that those of us that are happy with the moderation don't care if this thread disappears but those with concerns may see it differently - they may see it as some form of censorship rather than an effort to keep things pleasant.

I'm playing devil's advocat here, but it seems to me that if what I thought were my legitimate concerns were cleared away by the very people I wanted to address I might not see it as such a positive gesture.

Just a thought - I won't be saving this thread and I certainly don't really care what happens to it.

Oh and Joannalee _ I wasn't meaning that you weren't going to address the issues, just that others may see it that way :)

Whoa, yes they call him The Streak
Fastest thing on two feet
He's just as proud as he can be of his anatomy
He gun give us a peek

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/US/West/10/04/offbeat.nude.walk/story.man.streak.jpg

<b>*Stops in front of Jody....gives her a wink and a come hither glance! Before Jody can grab ahold of him to stop him, he starts bounding away in big leaps and bounds! He runs all around the board...chit chat...relationship help, sexually speaking (ahem)...personals....

Stops in front of Maria, when she makes an occasionally stop by in London. Looks at her, turns around and moons her, with a bullseye on his backside that says, "WHIP ME HERE!" Before she can swing...starts running around the board...

Now, the scene is one like Keystone Cops meets Benny Hill. Jody and Maria are chasing me around....when suddenly the "train" gets longer as other people hop aboard to stop me...Jules, Tru, Jannie, Trish, Babes...they all start running after me to try to stop...THE STREAKER! As he bounds away...doing dances that shoves all his "pertty bits"...*LOL*....*</b>

Oh, yes they call him The Streak
He likes to show off his physique
If there's an audience to be found
He'll be streakin' A-round invitin' public critique

<b>*Who's wants to catch me? Who wants to catch me?! Sorry, I know this is a serious thread, but, it needed lightening up! Smile, my friends! SMILE! And a special thanks to the administrators and moderators, to allow me to post and have a special place full of special friends, where I can come and enjoy myself....especially when....IT'S NAKED TIME!!</b>

Whoa, yes they call him The Streak
He likes to turn other cheek
He's always makin' the news wearin' just his tennis shoes
Guess you could call him unique

<b>*Dan bounds off into the distance, with the train of women following after him*</b>

to all those folks pissin' and moanin' about moderation:

you don't like this site?

START YOUR OWN!!!

Originally posted by melisande
to all those folks pissin' and moanin' about moderation:

you don't like this site?

START YOUR OWN!!!

Oh God, I agree with Melisande AND the way she said it too! :D

Originally posted by Pale_Beauty
So telling people you dont like to just leave is the answer?

No no!! Telling people who don't like the rules and moderation here to leave is the answer. I like everyone! :D

Babes, just imagine what you WOULD see if you DID have a gun! You could shoot and blow that black square away!

I'm sorry, but otherwise, if you want to see what's beyond the "Black Square Zone"...I'll have to perform the song for you in a private setting...

~Dan

(Hi! Admirer!!)

I hope you guys dont mind me crossing over here.... I just have a few things to say then I will go back to the other side :}

I found ageless in August and I have met some WONDERFUL people on here, and I have recieved much needed support through out the months....

I hate to see people at ends with eachother... Exspecally on such a great insiteful place... But just like IRL everyone is not going to like everyone, and everyone is not going to agree with eachothers opinions....

The difference between here and RL is that when you sign up to be a part of this site you read the rules... and you know these rules when you sign up.. You know this place is moderated, You know that you cant use the F word (and actually I believe that is a respect issue IRL) also... And yet my question is if you have such a big issue with it, why did you even bother to join ageless?

I dont agree with everyones opinions on here all the time, there are sometimes I post and other times I hold my tounge. But when I do post I do it with respect....because like me that person I disagree with is voicing in opinion and 95% of the time is doing iit with respect...

So I guess what Im trying to say, cant we all just get along and quit fighting? Can't we do what we do best on this site? Give support and advice where it is needed? Can't we just do it with a little more respect for eachother?

Oh and to the morderators... Jody, Maria, I for one think you guys are doing a wonderful job at moderating... I usually just come over to this side of the board and stay hidden, but I do read the threads and you guys do a wonderful job with making people feel welcomed here, and giving support, and answers...

And Em if your reading this you do a excellent job on the other side of the board to!!!

Alright all go hybernate back on my side now :}