BadDreamer999 11-05-2003, 11:50 AM I have a problem...I need some assistance financially raising my child.I know when I finally get the information I need, the great state of Texas will nail him to the wall.
The dead beat dad lives in Houston, but I don't know where.He moved from the last known address, and I need help,advice or clues as how to get his social security number.anyone know?
I have a packet of papers to be filed with the attorney general, but it asks me impossible information. just throwing a question out there, and maybe I will get valuable response.
tinydancer 11-05-2003, 12:40 PM Hmmm.......it's tough.
If you have his last name the child support enforcement division in Houston should be able to track him down.........if he is working.
I was in your shoes at one point too. I did have his SS# and knew where he was but I decided not to pursue it........you can't get blood from a stone. I also decided to be poor and go it alone rather than to give him any rights to my child. I mean, if he doesn't have enough honor to pay for his own child I wouldn't want him to have any rights to her. After a few rough years, the money I make is enough to care for her and I don't need to worry about his influence in her life unless it is played by my rules and in her best interest.
I wish you all the best.......my heart goes out to you.
Blessings, TD
BadDreamer999 11-05-2003, 02:20 PM You are right about not letting some jerk have benifits of the beautiful child you are raising solo..I agree..but times are hard for us here, I am ashamed that I can't even go buy groceries ..I know I can go to food banks etc; but I like to be able to do things without having to seek charity..I so want to buy my growing boy new clothes.I spent these 8 years raising him, and it would really make me uncomfortable to share him with his absent dad who knows nothing about him.
tinydancer 11-05-2003, 02:31 PM I am so sorry that you are in this situation.
I hope you can get money out of him. It won't be immediate though.............could take weeks, months, or even longer in some cases.
Do you have any family that could help you? Or maybe even some of the members here who have sons could send you some clothes and things. Most of my daughters clothes are from my older dancers who grew out of them or the thrift store and.........they are much cooler than the stuff I could buy new to boot. I love the stuff you can find in thrift stores and I can afford to buy new but usually don't. Hell, they grow out of the stuff so darn fast.
Keep the faith......our kids are like lucky stars for us...........usually, even though it might not feel like it right now, Our love and God's grace will be there.
Blessings, TD
marcy 11-05-2003, 04:16 PM $2,500 in back childsupport, then you can hire an outside agency. These folks will track your deadbeat down and do EVERYTHING necessary to collect your money for you in a short period of time. I do mean EVERYTHING...including filing warrents for his arrest.
Now...here's da catch...they keep a percent of the collection, but charge NOTHING if they do not collect.
Good luck!
P.S. They almost ALWAYS collect ;)
tinydancer 11-05-2003, 04:22 PM Marcy.......do have the names of any of these companies?
marcy 11-05-2003, 05:17 PM http://www.supportkids.com
http://www.childsupport.com/form.asp?source=overture&OVRAW=child%20support&OVKEY=child%20support&OVMTC=standard
Those are a couple I have found or know about...but there are more out there.
Baddreamer, even though he isn't paying child support, does he still try to spend time with his son? When was the last time he paid and the last time he spent time with y'alls son?
joe
swanqueen 11-05-2003, 06:39 PM bump
and I believe he never sees his son Joe, as in NEVER
Right Baddreamer?
yellowrose 11-05-2003, 07:23 PM Not to be negative, but Texas is not great at collecting child support. They have improved somewhat but it is like pulling teeth. AND once you let them go after the guy, the collection agencies will not help you out. If I had it to do over, I would let the agencies go after him. Just my experience with Texas...
You definitely should get food stamps if you can. It is your taxes and my taxes that pays for that, so please do that if you qualify.
Good luck, you have my empathy and prayers.
Barbara
chris 11-05-2003, 09:37 PM thats a tough call whats the laws in your state in regards to prosicution-in arizona we have a dead beat dad and mom law as it has a limit if like ten grand as they will arrest the person, as i have to do with my sons mother-sorry this one bites.
chris:confused:
swanqueen 11-05-2003, 09:38 PM ok chris, I give you a hot sticker. HOTTIE
chris 11-05-2003, 09:57 PM thanks!!!!ok thats me as this is me on that ego site thing site.thanks for the compliment:O)
blushing
chris
southerngal 11-05-2003, 10:02 PM Baddreamer, what about all the people finding services on the internet? I'm not sure if they're free or not though. Also, does he own any property anywhere? A house or land? Those kinds of things can be looked up by his name and fall under the open records law.
And heck yeah, if you qualify for anything GO GET IT!!!! I cant get a freakin thing because I have a pretty good job - although I can barely pay my bills. So I wish someone would get some of the benefits!! My ex owes me over $3000 that he is supposed to have been reimbursing me for health insurance on my kids, plus now I havent gotten any regular child support since June because he broke his back - which adds up to about $1250. And to top it all off, he has applied for social security disability but the only way I can get any help for my daughter is if HE is approved!! And IF he is approved, it'll probably be 6-8 months till she would get anything. Life sucks!!!!!:(
But hang in there, its all we can do,
Southerngal
I am in no way implying these are the motives of the ladies here, this is just my observation and experience.
One reason why father's stop paying child support is because the law makes it almost impossible to follow the guidelines. Texas is known for practically breaking up the father-son relationship. Ask just about any man here in Dallas that is or has to be paying child support. Or, has given up rights altogether.
When the ex took off with my son and left me for a divorce and full custody, I was forced to pay a huge amount of child support. I had no problem because I thought I would be winning my son back. I had a good case. Then I lost my job of 6 years. Got stuck with all the bills and had to support myself. There was no way I could continue to pay the child support. I was out of money and not working for three months. I was and still, living off of people and borrowing money from everyone and anyone! At the same time I had lost my 3rd custody/divorce hearing and the courts made me pay a higher child support, pay to see my son at a facility until he turns 4 yrs old, and pay for all the ex's crapola! Meanwhile, the ex-beotch was using my son as leverage to control my life and my son's relationship with me.
After I found a job that is 50% less than what I was used to getting, I had my fourth and supposed to be last trial in August of this year. Since I was obviously 4 months late in back child support, the wife wanted a termination of rights from me or go to jail. Guess what, the court nearly granted it. At the last minute of the trial I agreed to see my son at only limited times during the month, not your everyday standard visitation that a father is supposed to have, and payback as much as I could from the months I didn't work. Rememeber, I was either supposed to be going to jail, or was being asked to give up my rights as my son's father.
Here was the child support issue verdict (one of about 4 issues):
I was making $40,000 a year before I lost my job and paying $463.84 for child support for about 6 mos. Lost job, found one that paid slighlty over $20,000 which equates to a little under $800 every two weeks. I was ordered by the court to now pay $560 a month or go to jail. NO WAY!!! I don't have the funds to do that. She makes over $30,000 a year, lives in a drug house with her parents and two older sisters and their little boys. Looks, like I'll be paying for her new clothes and car! :mad: To top it off, I have to pay an "extra" $250 a month to visit my son at a facility because my ex kept him away from me for so long. And she told the court I am going to kill her and my son with a butcher knife at any time. There were other petty things to pay, but those were the major ones.
I know many people that have given their rights up because the ex and the court controls the income of the father. Both, court and ex's, constantly dig into the father's paycheck every year just to get a piece of the pie, while at the same time, making it hard for the child(ren) and their father to have a peaceful and meaningful relationship. Lots of father's can't deal with that and would just continue to give up and start over with someone else. In my case, it's the ex tearing my son apart and crying because she wants more "beotch support", not child support. The court just sits there and feeds it to her. It happens everyday. I hear it day in and day out. So sometimes it's not just the father adding to the "no pay, no visit" rule, it's the court system and the ex as well. Every case is different but this is what I see the most of.
In two weeks, I will have my fifth and final hearing, and with no money to continue to pay attorneys, or the "other" financial orders, and not seeing my 2 1/2 yr old son for over a year, I will terminate my rights as a father. The ex-beotch will just have to answer the boy's questions and live with herself. I have all the paper work, evidence, and proof of my court battles if he ever comes to me.
Well, Baddreamer, I hope you get your money. Lemme know if you have any other questions, I'm pretty knowledgeable on child support now. :)
joe
BadDreamer999 11-06-2003, 01:11 AM Originally posted by swanqueen
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and I believe he never sees his son Joe, as in NEVER
Right Baddreamer?
he is not a participating father...he used to visit at christmas time, spoil him rotten for a day or two, then leave..I would not mind if he had an active role in his upbringing, but spoiling him, then going away does my sons emotions no good.
It has been two years since he last saw him.and has never helped out his entire life, sadly.
Jo-Admin 11-06-2003, 01:57 AM I will try to word this carefully, as this issue gets me so riled up. I have no idea why some men wont' take care of their own children, like it is a choice or something. You make the baby, you take care of the baby. I am not talking about a case like Joe, where there are obviously extenuating circumstances, and he is getting screwed around by a vindictive ex....
My ex owes me probably around 25,000 dollars in back support for 2 children....Even with the father's social security number, he has been great at moving from state to state, working under the table so his income is not traceable, and even got arrested once for it and somehow got out of that, had the date postponed and skipped the state before the next court date. It makes me MAD people!!!
The state took over prosecuting him with the dead-beat Dad thing...so I really don't have much to do with it at this point. And yes, he still sees the kids every once in a while, usually around once a year, because they WANT to see him.
I would sincerely think about hiring one of those agencies. I really have not had much luck going through the normal channels, and at this point, its not worth it to me.
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