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Questions on anti aging stuff you have tried

Guest
01-22-2004, 05:37 PM
I am 39. I have noticed that I have some lines around my eyes now, (crows feet I can deal with that) but under my eyes can be too wrinkeled when I smile, almost to the point I don't want to laugh, or smile any more and I have a good smile it's the darn eyes.

Now I think I'm too young for all this, and I also now wake up and my face looks so puffy in the morning and of course the eyes are worse, after a while being up the puffy face goes away eyes get better. I don't drink, don't smoke (I thought that was suppose to be a good thing when I aged) Do you think this is normale age stuff for 39, is it maybe something else? I can't stand it and think I'll never sleep with another man because of how I look in the morning, and never smile again because of the bad lines under my eyes. Help!!!! I use the cream anti aging from Loreal it does nothing!!!

Any one find any special cosmatic stuff like a type of facial or something that works to make the aginging skin look much fresher and younger, as well as the bad stuff under the eyes. I have a dust mite allergry only is any of it you think from that, any advice if anyone else has had this. Or has thoughts on it Thanks

bubbleee
01-22-2004, 08:47 PM
You could get Retin A from your doctor.

Or try Olay Regenerist during the day, and Olay Night Effects Cream at night. They work beautifully for me and I'm older than you!

Marianne
01-23-2004, 01:30 AM
If I were you I would go and find a reputable dermatologist and start asking questions. I am 41 and have been on a skincare regime given to me by my dermatologist. I have incredible skin and I know it's because of the products I've used. When you buy something at the department stores....though they can be very, very good....they are NOT medical grade. They are when you go to a dermatologist. I have been getting bi-monthly salicilic and glycolic peels since 1997. You don't have to get them that regularly but I guarantee you that if you get at least half a dozen of these spread out over the next year you will see an amazing difference in your skin. The other thing that is soooo important is sunscreen. Make sure you never leave the house without it. Please don't be depressed.....there are sooo many things you can do to change the appearance of your skin. Good luck

SnowPrincess
01-23-2004, 02:39 AM
Hi there, just letting you know cuz' I am sure you didn't see it since it is way way down, but there is a health section way south of us on this board. Look down . But this is a GREAT thread, maybe some nice mod will move it down below :)
Hugzzz
~T

obsessing
01-23-2004, 05:45 AM
Great thread. Thanks for starting it. I started a thread awhile back about Tell Me Your Beauty secrets and I'll tell you mine" or something. Got a lot of info there. I don't have time to search for it as I'm off to work, but will find it later for you.

I am in the process of compiling true-life beauty trials and tribulations into book form, and would appreciate any feedback you gals have.

Thanks

Keep Warm(if possible!)

jammmy
01-23-2004, 07:56 AM
Well, well, well...
I can't advise you "skin" things... creams etc.
I can only try to get into your emotional state of mind, but
BUT !!! I can tell you one thing for sure...

DONT WORRY ! I'm SURE u look good !
(and as long as you belive it your self and "glow" it around, other people would think same too.)

>"I have some lines around my eyes "
>"almost to the point I don't want to laugh, or smile any more and I have a good smile it's the darn eyes. "

Well, have you heard about "spot light effect" ? I definetly think that that is the text book case... Most of people don't notice that there are some small imperfections, and even thouse who do, they don't care... Nobody is PERFECT! and as long as YOU like your self, its gona be fine...

>"I wake up and my face looks so puffy in the morning "

You know why you think all that? cause there is no young man around you to tell you that you look great (or if he is, his definetly no doing hes task ;)

> I can't stand it and think I'll never sleep with another man because of how I look in the morning, and never smile again because of the bad lines under my eyes.

Heeeey !!! common! I'm not a doctor, but unlike some others here (wich ofcourse have more experience, and more facts in hand) I'll prescribe you some FLIRTING ! Give it a shot ! look around you ! there are probably dozens of guys who are flirting with you, and you just dont notice it, cause you dont feel satisfied with your apperiance... Forget about it! (at least for several weekend nights, ok?)... Go out... dance... Have fun... Flirt!
In a couple of weeks time, you feel great!


>"fresher and younger"

At least on this site you definetly dont have to worry about having to feel "younger", cause guys here are suposed to like older wemen, and I sure u r no diffrent! ;)

onetiger
01-23-2004, 09:24 AM
Just a little question...which would be worse to never smile again and have a face without any wrinkles, or to be able to smile every day & often, but have a few little wrinkles. I'll take the wrinkles any day! And I'm 35, and yes, my friends and I do have some slight wrinkling...it's normal & natural. Do we fret about them? Once in a while. Have we stopped making our expressions? HECK NO! I just recently read an article about how we are becoming an expressionless nation due to the use of botox and how that might play into our relationships. How would you like to be a grandchild who doesn't see your granna's smile reach her eyes? Or significant other who doesn't know you are upset because your face is looking bland (though without wrinkles)? How many guys truly look all that fantastic in the morning (or smell all that good) but somehow we love waking up next to them, kissing them (even with stinky breath) just cause they are our guys. Guess what - they feel the same.

SO KEEP SMILING!

PinkPanther_04
01-23-2004, 11:08 AM
I found this article for you, which pretty well sums up what I was going to say (and then some): http://www.saga.co.uk/health_news/article/C580ACFE-D082-11D6-B8B1-00508BAEC55C.asp?bhcp=1

The magazine is targeted toward people older than you, but the information is useful for anyone. I hope it helps.

Sage
01-23-2004, 11:15 AM
I tried a cream once, to reduce bags under my eyes
or something like that, and it burned the skin under my
eyes real bad.
It was a top notch, (expensive), cream too,
ending up in the garbage.
I have not purchased anything like it again.

I have very sensitive skin and get rashes and I have
to be careful as to what I put on my skin,
such as make-up and all of that.
That is why I don't wear make-up unless I am going out,
I break out from it if it is on my skin 24/7.

Much of what we see in the mirror is hereditary
and there isn't a lot we can do about it.
Our skin is an organ that needs lots of
moisure- and in that, I mean we need to drink
lots of water.
The "moisture' needs to come from within-
and not so much added externally.
Although keeping your skin from externally drying out
is beneficial too, but be careful!
There are many creams and other agents
that actually strip the oils and moisture from
our skin and dries it out terribly.
This is when you find youself constantly needing
to apply a mositurising agent to your skin-
because in actuality, what you are using to keep
your skin "soft", is indeed, what causes it to dry out.

I don't wash my face wih soap-
it will dry our faces out bad!
I just use warm water.
"Less is Best", when it comes to our faces
and the use of soaps, (no matter how "gentle" they
claim to be)

Staying out of the sun is crucial.
It dries. It burns. It sucks the life right
out of our skin and thus, wrinkles are born.

So many little wrinkles and the such
are there to stay and OneTiger makes an
important point of people getting to where
they look "emotionless".
Granted, I have been blessed with great skin
and the wrinkles are next to nothing-
but I have "other" party favors.
LOL
(Bags under my eyes, for one)

My suggestion is to use the products out there
with much caution and use the "trial and error"
method and don't break the bank
in buying tons of these things.
They are so costly!!

Drink a ton of water,
making sure your skin is getting the moisture it needs
from the inside and go easy on the soaps
used on your face.
I remove my make-up with vaseline and have
for many many years.
Cold cream dries my skin and the vaseline
seems to replenish it.

Stay out of the sun for sure and
when faced with having to be in the sun-
use a strong sun-screen.

The signs of aging only add to our character.
Just make sure there is a genuine smile on your
face too!
:p

Guest
01-23-2004, 11:32 AM
The lines at the corners don't really bother me but it's these darn half (upside down) moon shaped creases that form big time, when I smile, and the wrinkels above them, they make me look like I am 90 years old when I smile, and I am one of those people who smile a lot actually, but I have been noticing them so much lately.

My smile and my eyes were always the things that stood out most about me. My eyes are green and my teeth are white and stright and my smile big but in a good way and I would get a lot of positive comments about these things, so I hate that my smile is causing these effects now.

When I wake up and throughtout the day pretty much I also notice my nose is always stuffy, always has been and nasal spry does little, I wonder if the trouble breathing clearly could add to this problem, that is way I was wondering if it was normale for my age.

I would love to try those facial procedures however to smooth out my skin because it does not have the same glow as say a 20 something year old. That's just how it is i know, but I've heard stuff that some easy things can be done to help that. The peels and stuff, do they hurt, do they leave your face all red and sore for days, so that you would want to pick days you will be able to stay home for a few? I heard there was some kind of facial thing that was suppose to be great for making a face look fresher and smoother but don't know what it is or if it is true, and also cost is a big thing too. I am a single mom, and can't blow money on something that does not work, but if it really does work i would go for it, because I would feel so much better.

Maybe my concern now has so much to do with the fact I like a guy who is 24, and worry about him being turned off by the skin under my eyes making me loook so much older when I smile. It's hard enough being older then this guy in the first place and wishing he would find me attractive then to have this make me look older ugh. Yes he should like me for me but you have to get past the first step of attraction to get to the next step of not noticing flaws and just noticing personality ya know? I think. He has never dated an older women and it is not something I think he has ever thought to do, probably heard if anything the old views on age and dating and marriage to a women your age or one or two younger, his family just seem traditional like that.

We get along fine, but I'm not sure if I sense any attraction or just a mild friendship. I wonder if a guy could even be worried about finding himself attracted to an older women, and actally act more guarded and too boot if your interaction statred due to his job involving your child and an attraction maybe being not proper really while he still is involved with your child at work.? Maybe I should talk about this subject on the other board where it probably belongs maybe realthionships?

Back to the face and stuff. Now don't think I mean I only dislike these moon shadows because I like this guy, I really do dislike them for me too, it makes me sad if I look in a morror and notice these under my eyes when I'm smiling. I want to feel free when I smile. I want to feel comfortable flirting like I use to, and my smile and my eyes are a big part of my flirt. I say alot with my eyes.

The puffy face darn under eye thing in the morning would make it hard for me to have that first morning after with a young guy, more so then if it was an older guy. Maybe I'm wrong but I worry a younger guy would be put off more by this or any sign of age like this? This guy I like had been in a year plus realthionship with a 23 year old. I looked good at 23. I'm fine now don't get me wrong, have a little baby pouch from having a child, but I workout and stuff, I'm not basically unattractive, but those moon's and the puffy face ugh. So, advice please. I would like to get a little something done.

ravenglow
01-23-2004, 12:45 PM
Hiya Guest,

I am 35 and am usually told I look much younger, but when you describe the skin under your eyes it makes me nervous!!

I have a brother who is a year younger than I am, and perhaps due to more of the older-looking genes than I got or to his way of living a little rougher than I (I dont drink or smoke, never have...dont sunbathe, never have, etc), he looks older than me and the major spot I notice the age is under his eyes!!

Sometimes if I catch a glimpse of myself smiling I notice my under eyes look puffy and I see some creases too, Im not sure if they were always there, or Im just getting paranoid now as I hit the mid 30's and have a boyfriend 10+ years younger, or if they are getting worse? :confused:
Like you said, I also want to be free to smile and be me without worrying about the bags under my eyes, LOL.

For me I notice that my eyes and face tend to look puffy if I dont get enough sleep for a few nights, but especially if I eat some high sugar, high carb foods and dont get enough water for a few days in a row. That seems to be the worst for causing this. I also suffer from some mild allergies to mold and dust and this dry heat during the winters exacerbates that. Perhaps some of these things are at work with your eyes and face too.

I like to use eye gels and creams and I like to keep them in the fridge. Sometimes I'll put cool tea bags or ice on my eyes for a few before I do my makeup. It helps to make the under eye area feel tighter and also with any redness in your eyeballs! I have done this for ages.
Another thing that I'd like to tell you about the brightness of your skin, is that you may want to try a gentle exfoliating scrub. Since I was 12 I have used an apricot scrub on my skin at least once per day. My skin is not sensitive, so if yours is this may be too rough for you, but I also use a gentle 'polishing' srub by Clinique every other day that has a much more moisturizing base, and much finer granules. I use a Clinique astringent too before using moisturizer etc. I like how it makes my skin feel cool and tingly.
Anyway, there are some good products out there, I usually stick to the cheap stuff, except my Clinique which I am lucky enough to have my mother send me.
I think if you experiment you'll find some beauty rituals that make you FEEL better about how you look.
My philosophy is to do your best, then forget about it. Leave it alone, your beauty radiates from inside, and I like to think its like a beacon to men who appreciate true beauty and not just superficial outsides.
Let us know if you find anything that works wonders!

Marianne
01-23-2004, 03:25 PM
You asked about the peels I mentioned and did they hurt or leave your face red and burned. The ones I mentioned specifically....glycolic and salicilic.....can only be done by a licensed aesthitian or dermatologist and they DO NOT hurt or leave you red and burned. These ones are done to help the skin cell turnover that naturally slow down as we get older. You can put makeup on right after you have it done and the worst you will see might be a little redness depending on how your skin reacts. These will absolutely give you that "fresher" look and a beautiful glow. I just wanted to give you the info on this in case it's something you want to look into....the prices will vary depending where you live. I am in California and one peel costs $70.00. Remember, though, you can have about 4-6 of these over the course of the year and you will see a difference. I want to add something to this as well.....I am a firm believer in taking care of yourself. I have always exercised, eaten well, and made sure I took care of myself. I have never wanted children so I was able to "spoil" myself,.....I totally understand someone who has children and how you can put yourself "second" easily. I just wanted you to know that although I am giving you information on these peels, I do believe that our beauty does come from inside as well.....it does ultimately come down to how you see yourself and how you love yourself and that stuff can never come from a bottle or a peel. Please be kinder to yourself....don't forget that there is so much more to ourselves than what is on the outside but by all means if there is something bothering you....look into it and take care of it. And as Sage so wisely said.....do not break the bank....it's not worth it.


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