SnowPrincess 03-21-2004, 11:05 PM I have something to say to you....
This may be something for the chit chat section, but I know Bears Angel reads this thread mostly.
OK what I have to say...........
I have been thinking about this since your last post.
Your articulate, sincere, inspiring replies move me.
You are a wonderful person Bear, I love your posts and I think that you are a great man!
Jane keeps saying what a great man you are, and now I know why. You are kind, considerate, loving and gentle, oh and SMART...You write very well.
I am truly happy for you both and I think you make a wonderful couple.
I wanna add that you are VERY handsome too, (but I don't want Jane to slap me) :D
Big hugzzzz
~Tammy
Marianne 03-22-2004, 01:23 AM Originally posted by SnowPrincess
OK what I have to say...........
I have been thinking about this since your last post.
Your articulate, sincere, inspiring replies move me.
You are a wonderful person Bear, I love your posts and I think that you are a great man!
Jane keeps saying what a great man you are, and now I know why. You are kind, considerate, loving and gentle, oh and SMART...You write very well.
I am truly happy for you both and I think you make a wonderful couple.
I wanna add that you are VERY handsome too, (but I don't want Jane to slap me) :D
Big hugzzzz
~Tammy
I second that!!!
RobsGirl 03-22-2004, 10:24 AM I agree wholeheartedly!!
Jo-Admin 03-22-2004, 11:24 AM I have been meaning to do an interview with them for the longest time. I think they have a lot to share, and a lot we could learn from. From meeting on the net, to a long-distance relationship...to living together and being married....
Im gonna get that darned interview done! Dang it!
happyg 03-22-2004, 01:01 PM You both have made a lot of inspiring, intelligent posts. I always enjoy reading what you have to say :)
Best wishes to you both, and thank you for being the good people that you are!
BearsAngel 03-22-2004, 01:10 PM What a lovely compliment, Tammy. I told Dave about it but he's been very busy and I see that he hasn't been by yet.
There is no way I can every tell you how much your words mean to Dave. He has gone through so much and still lacks the confidence he should have. He was put down so much by his brothers that he's only starting to see the wonderful and caring person that's inside him. He's very shy about answering posts because he is afraid that he won't say the right thing. I've been trying to get him to see that he has a lot to offer someone who has questions or needs reassurance.
I want to thank all of you for your kind words. He deserves them. He is the kindest most gentle man I've ever met. He really cares about those who are having problems or in pain, whether they are human or animal. He took quite a fall while feeding our handicapped raccoon and yet was ready to go out and feed him again the next night. I've been laid up for almost 3 months with knee problems, but he never complains. He cleans house, fixes meals and does the laundry and all he asks in return is a hug.
It's been a long road for us and it hasn't always been fun, but his quiet strength and determination to get well have made it so much easier. He's a great husband and a wonderful friend. I honestly believe that I am the luckiest woman in the world.
Thank you again for starting this thread. Tammy, I hope things work out for you and Will. Sometimes there's a bump along the way, but you can get past it if you work together.
(((HUG)))
Jane
Angel's Bear 03-22-2004, 09:01 PM Hi everyone.
Thank you all so much for your kind words.
:D
My life has definitely undergone some major upheavals in the last five years. I'd like to say that it's been nothing but a bed of roses, but it has taken a lot of work and a lot of tears and hurt. I am fortunate that I have such a wonderful partner who has always been there for me and such good people to offer their kind words of support and advice when I (we) needed it.
Jane and I have finally gotten to the root of the problems that were plaguing me and our relationship. I've still got a lot of work on myself to do, but I am beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And Jane and I are both definitely looking forward to that peace and happiness we both desperately deserve!
Thanks again for all the many kind words and support!
Hugs All Around
Dave
Katie S 03-22-2004, 10:36 PM Bear's Angel and Angel's Bear have both been remarkable posters!
I told Jane I thought she should write a syndicated advice column to fill the void Ann Landers left. She is so right on and I love her brilliant, down-to-earth advice.
The thread she posted regarding Dave's issues that he and she faced moved me deeply.
Dave and Jane, your courage and love inspired me to deal with old issues, reveal my own pain and share how I walked through it. That process healed me even more, so I am grateful to you both for sharing all that you did.
Also, your relationship based on real love, compassion, genuine caring, understanding, tenderness and courage to go the distance moved me beyond words and gave me a model of what ALL relationships should be like, age gap or not.
We're all fellow-travelers, bumbling along on this life journey. Thanks to all of you at ageless, and especially to Jane and Dave, for your courage to tell the truth. I personally have grown, healed, learned and been blessed by you all.
BTW--things with my ym are going fine, thanks to all the advice I've read on here!! I've learned to relax, be real, and see what happens next. It's been bumpy at times, but now it's becoming a lovely journey. And I credit the threads at Ageless for helping me to be authentic, which has improved all of my relationships!
Still, I have to fess up that Jane and Dave really resonate with me. I love your posts, always.
Blessings,
Katie S.
SnowPrincess 03-22-2004, 11:44 PM Jane, Dave is "hunk" remember that 80's term?
I was just thinking what Jody had posted, as to how you should be spotlighted. Jody, do it soon, this is a great story.
Dave and Jane ~ Heres an ageless cheerz to you.
You are very loved by this community and we all love you.
Dave, I think you are a wonderful man, you will just keep growing and life will become even more great for you. Jane is a wonderful women, and I know it was a match made in heaven. You both have such kind hearts. Kind hearts are hard to come by, but you both have them.
I adore both of you.
~Tammy
whisper 03-23-2004, 02:39 AM I agree with what you all wrote about these two incredible people. They are really special and I am so glad that I've gotten to know them. Jane, I agree that you should have your own column. Jane and Dave have been a real inspiration to me and Jeremy.
BearsAngel 03-23-2004, 10:27 PM Even more kind words. I wish you could see Dave as he reads such nice things. He's dealing with estrangement from his parents and both brothers as well as the realization that he was and is abused by his brothers. The last time he saw his brothers his oldest one called him names and the youngest one made himself scarce when help was needed. He hasn't been back home since and that was a year and a half ago.
He's been sick so much all the time we have been together and even before, with no diagnosis in sight. We read an article the other day that said survivors of long-term sibling abuse (bullying) frequently develope Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. We looked it up and it seems to fit, so now we may have a diagnosis for an illness that has no cure. *sigh*
I honestly feel that Dave's illness has brought us together to be a stronger couple than we otherwise would have been. My current student told me of his youngest daughter. She was married at 20 and diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis when she got sick on her honeymoon. They have now been married for 25 years and are still very much in love. They each think that the other is the strongest most wonderful person they've ever met.
I think that many of us here are on this track with our relationships. We have issues and problems, yet we try to work as a team to solve or overcome them. We try to help each other out and we are always ready to cheer someone on when they take the scary leap and fall in love. I don't think that my advice is any better than anyone else's here. We all speak from the heart and try to share our experiences so that they might help the next person.
The trouble with having my own column is that I have to listen to everyone and be nice to the dolts who think that it's okay to do something incredibly stupid. LOL Actually I did have my own column on another site for awhile, but they had a flaming war going on over what was and was not appropriate to say and anything that I said or edited got me pounded by someone. It wasn't worth it and I quit. I guess I'm just Irish enough to think that your freedom of speech ends when you piss me off. :)
Tammy, you are such a sweetheart for starting this thread just when Dave needed reassurance the most. (((HUG)))
Katie, its good to hear that things are going well with you and your YM. Congratulations!
Sally, I've enjoyed conversing with you, so stop apologizing for PMing me. Ok? And I'm glad things are good for the two of you.
Sweet Whisper whose love story with Jeremy is one I love to tell. What a miracle that the two of you found one another.
Trish, you absolutely made Dave's day by saying if he wasn't married he'd be "elligible." It's nice to think someone would want you if you were alone.
Molly, you are so sweet. I hope things are going better for Caden these days.
Nessa the Engaged. I like the sound of that. Thanks for the compliment. I'd like that bag of chips now...we're on a low-salt diet. *ick*
Happyg, great name. Thanks for the compliments. It's nice of you.
Joannalee...I keep thinking I missed your mail. I can't imagine what we will say, but I'm sure we can say it at length. ;)
Marianne, thanks a lot. By the way, we feed a feral cat too. Him and the raccoons and a woodchuck, about a dozen squirrels and whatever else wanders by.
Here's hoping that all of you live the life of your dreams in the arms of the most wonderful man in the world.
(((HUG)))
Jane
SnowPrincess 03-26-2004, 12:41 AM To the Bears
You two are very special, you are down to earth and you are very sweet.
I love you both, you are a gift to ageless. You share so much with us! You never pick sides and you aren't here for a "popularity" contest. You are genuine!!
Big hugzzz and I wish you many years of happines.
~Tammy
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